Infamous PS3 Hacker, Geohot, Arrested (For Marijuana)
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Please explain how OD'ing on Marijuana is even physically possible?nackertash said:
Maybe if you eat like 4 pounds of it...
As a former vice officer. I can say with certainty that unless texas has some bizarre ass laws. Yes, this is exactly correct. Hell, he could probably get that if he represented himself. What was the weight? I'm kind of shocked he even saw a jail cell. Most places if it's less than 4 oz you just get it taken away, and a ticket to pay.Xanthious said:
Harper0341 said:
Not one documented case of overdose by weed....ever:
In order for a human to consume enough marijuana to be fatal, they would have to consume nearly 40,000 times the amount of THC required to intoxicate them. In contrast, it only requires about 5 to 10 times the amount of alcohol required to intoxicate, to be fatal. For example, if it requires 3 beers to intoxicate you, it only requires 15 to 30 beers to kill you. However, if it takes you 3 'hits' of marijuana to intoxicate you, it would require 120,000 hits to kill you. Thus, it is virtually impossible to die of a marijuana overdose.
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Well, yes. Obviously. Such logic is infallible. I also have outstanding warrants for Thomas Edison and Nikolai Tesla for their work on electricity, pretty much every chemist on the general principle that chemicals are bad and God. Because fundamentally it's all his fault.Sovvolf said:
I think Nackertash is on to a winner here!
Does anyone else think that Marijuana has way too many nicknames? It's annoying.
I blame the government. If they didn't make it illegal, it would only have one or two nicknames, and all would be right with the world.
Also, the Captchas stopped doing what they were intended to do. Origionally they obscured words so programs couldn't do things automatically. Now they're advertising space delaying my post by an extra 5 seconds.
Escapist and solve media, both of you are on my annoyance list, right after the U.S. government.
I blame the government. If they didn't make it illegal, it would only have one or two nicknames, and all would be right with the world.
Also, the Captchas stopped doing what they were intended to do. Origionally they obscured words so programs couldn't do things automatically. Now they're advertising space delaying my post by an extra 5 seconds.
Escapist and solve media, both of you are on my annoyance list, right after the U.S. government.
Who's stupid enough to go into Texas of all places with medical marijuana? Is anyone aware that state laws are different and there's that big checkpoint at Sierra Blanco?
Besides Snoop Dogg, I mean.
Besides Snoop Dogg, I mean.
Its a sad state of affairs when you get arrested for carrying around $15 of marijuana, but hacking into major corporation's networks and breaking EULAs on other devices goes unpunished. Of course, though, I'm forgetting that every time you smoke marijuana someone kills a kitten and the commits suicide.
Sometimes I hate my country.
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Sometimes I hate my country.
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Glad there's other free-thinkers on this forum.Fudj said:
I'm not a huge Geohot fan, and I am very anti-drugs (even pot) but it seems like this is pretty ridiculous.
Whether you agree with Medical Marijuana or not, the bottom line is the guy had the paperwork for it, even from out of state. He was travelling through Texas, as opposed to taking up residence or spending a prolonged amount of time there. Believe it or not there are laws to protect people from things like this, given that even outside of MJ there are all kinds of laws that vary from state to state about medication, which limit what the law enforcement can do to someone who is just "passing through", mostly oriented at painkillers though given that they are an abused substance and states have greatly varied laws dealing with them, but nobody thinks it's a good idea that someon in extreme pain should be arrested or have their pills confiscated for just passing through somewhere with differant laws (even if this can be abused by dealers).
My first thoughts here are that Geohotz is BSing about the legitimacy of his Medical Marijuana liscence and that's part of the story that isn't making it out yet, basically the cops checked it, and he is going down for lying about it. My second thought is that if he got it approved and wasn't hanging out in the area for a prolonged period when he was stopped, is that a Sheriff is about to lose his job, and that town is probably going to wind up having some major budget issues very quickly when they get the crap sued out of them.
It's not an area of law I know a lot about, but I do remember reading about some similar seeming cases with people being arrested for possession of prescription painkillers like Oxycotin, in states that tried to pass policies saying that they wouldn't accept prescriptions written from doctors out of state (due to the requirements they put on their doctors to prevent quacks from selling prescriptions for them to junkies) as justifying possession... and that didn't hold up when properly challenged. As I remember it, you can only challenge a prescription and presumably a liscence like that, if it's being used by someone who is a resident of the state in question. Basically you couldn't get your prescription for Oxy from a quack in California and use it in Texas (for example) or use it to justify possession, but someone playing tourist in Texas who brings their drugs with them can't be arrested for having them. As I understand things if Geohotz bought his MJ in Texas using the out of state liscence that would be a problem... but that would reflect more on the dealer/vendor if they accepted the liscence than on him. In the case of prescription drugs (ie not MJ) I believe medical professionals have ways around the laws as well, though they have to register what they are doing, so basically if some guy from California legitimatly loses a much needed medication like Painkillers for an obvious condition (burn damage or something), a doctor or pharmacy can oftentimes find ways to overrule the law as a medical emergency.
I'm rambling, but I think this is going to be a giant face off between two jerks ... a Jerk Off! (lol, sorry, I couldn't resist). A jerky texan sheriff, against a jerky west coast hacker. Personally I'll be very surprised if when the smoke clears Geohotz doesn't win, and probably even benefit from this.... assuming there isn't more to the story like a false liscence, him hanging out in the town for three weeks (or whatever the requirement is) or scoring his weed there in Texas.
Whether you agree with Medical Marijuana or not, the bottom line is the guy had the paperwork for it, even from out of state. He was travelling through Texas, as opposed to taking up residence or spending a prolonged amount of time there. Believe it or not there are laws to protect people from things like this, given that even outside of MJ there are all kinds of laws that vary from state to state about medication, which limit what the law enforcement can do to someone who is just "passing through", mostly oriented at painkillers though given that they are an abused substance and states have greatly varied laws dealing with them, but nobody thinks it's a good idea that someon in extreme pain should be arrested or have their pills confiscated for just passing through somewhere with differant laws (even if this can be abused by dealers).
My first thoughts here are that Geohotz is BSing about the legitimacy of his Medical Marijuana liscence and that's part of the story that isn't making it out yet, basically the cops checked it, and he is going down for lying about it. My second thought is that if he got it approved and wasn't hanging out in the area for a prolonged period when he was stopped, is that a Sheriff is about to lose his job, and that town is probably going to wind up having some major budget issues very quickly when they get the crap sued out of them.
It's not an area of law I know a lot about, but I do remember reading about some similar seeming cases with people being arrested for possession of prescription painkillers like Oxycotin, in states that tried to pass policies saying that they wouldn't accept prescriptions written from doctors out of state (due to the requirements they put on their doctors to prevent quacks from selling prescriptions for them to junkies) as justifying possession... and that didn't hold up when properly challenged. As I remember it, you can only challenge a prescription and presumably a liscence like that, if it's being used by someone who is a resident of the state in question. Basically you couldn't get your prescription for Oxy from a quack in California and use it in Texas (for example) or use it to justify possession, but someone playing tourist in Texas who brings their drugs with them can't be arrested for having them. As I understand things if Geohotz bought his MJ in Texas using the out of state liscence that would be a problem... but that would reflect more on the dealer/vendor if they accepted the liscence than on him. In the case of prescription drugs (ie not MJ) I believe medical professionals have ways around the laws as well, though they have to register what they are doing, so basically if some guy from California legitimatly loses a much needed medication like Painkillers for an obvious condition (burn damage or something), a doctor or pharmacy can oftentimes find ways to overrule the law as a medical emergency.
I'm rambling, but I think this is going to be a giant face off between two jerks ... a Jerk Off! (lol, sorry, I couldn't resist). A jerky texan sheriff, against a jerky west coast hacker. Personally I'll be very surprised if when the smoke clears Geohotz doesn't win, and probably even benefit from this.... assuming there isn't more to the story like a false liscence, him hanging out in the town for three weeks (or whatever the requirement is) or scoring his weed there in Texas.
It doesn't work that way for a class C-D felonies. The federal government doesn't actually sanction the state laws that allow for medical marijuana. If you read on how california has been dealing with it, they haven't. In many cases distribution centers have been shut down on the west coast for essentially "doing too well." Meaning at any time that you are running such a store the DEA can come in and run through your stuff. This happens pretty much daily in the U.S. Therefore, an out of state person caught with felony class drugs has no rights in regard to how they are trialed out of state. Now he may be extradited to california where they will laugh shake hands with the judge and be sent on his merry way but down south and out east they don't really play that kind of ball game.Therumancer said:
On the pain killer note. Unless you may die without the substance generally police forces will make you go cold turkey on the drug regardless of withdrawal symptoms. Obviously this policy is more oriented toward opiates but it applies to many non narcotic drugs as well such as Xanax and Ambien. Believe it or not, they aren't going to let you take drugs in jail.
I seriously doubt he will get off for this unless he gets extradited.
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Also, to hear that that annoying pest was busted for pot is hilarious. Gotta watch those small towns here, man, those dogs are precise. Though, sucks that he's missing out on SXSW. That's some crazy awesome that he's missing out on, for sure. Though, really, why the hell would he stop in Sierra Blanca? And why was he stopped? The only reason to stop there is Gas, but, and trust me on this one, that's a terrible idea. Get it before or after, if you can, and just plow through Sierra Blanca.
Also, to hear that that annoying pest was busted for pot is hilarious. Gotta watch those small towns here, man, those dogs are precise. Though, sucks that he's missing out on SXSW. That's some crazy awesome that he's missing out on, for sure. Though, really, why the hell would he stop in Sierra Blanca? And why was he stopped? The only reason to stop there is Gas, but, and trust me on this one, that's a terrible idea. Get it before or after, if you can, and just plow through Sierra Blanca.
Counting the weight of the chocolate as weed weight is a dick move. I'm more interested in knowing why he left Facebook.