Influx of Women: How would society cope?

[Thaluikhain]

You're assuming that these strangely proportioned space ladies would be interested in ordinary human persons such as yourself. And that large breasts make a woman inherently superior it seems. Were that teh case, we'd see a lot more plastic surgery.

In any case, I'm sure they'd want to use human males for breeding, but probably by implanting their eggs into people's eyes or something.

EDIT: More seriously, this would involve a massive demographic shift, and those tend to be painful. In theory, you can have one man breeding with multiple women and all, but this just doesn't tend to happen on a large scale societal level.

 

[Fox12]

If those pictures are anything to go by, human women have nothing to worry about.

But I don't think it would matter. Those ideal, perfect women would probably end up with ideal, perfect men. I don't see why the gender paradigm would change just because we invented robots.

 

[Tanis]

1) Who in their right mind would base ANYTHING off of a fucking cartoon?
Seriously, it's FANTASY!

2) IDK MBFFJ?

 

[Saltyk]

But yeah if a whole bunch of ladies with huge boobs and tiny waists appeared it wouldn't take long before that became boring and unattractive. These things happen.

You're not wrong. One of the things that always confused me about people like Pamela Anderson and Paris Hilton is how desirable they are supposed to be. To me they look like they're plastic.

But maybe I'm odd. I'm not looking for women with minimum DD breasts and waists the size of a donut hole. So take my opinions with a grain of salt.

 

[Erttheking]

Probably they would be ostracized. What looks charming (if you like it) in a drawing can look terrifying IRL.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Spoiler: They will eat your sooooulllssss

Huh...thought I recognised them, but they are two other doll looking ladies. I guess I can be excused for thinking they tend to look the same.

...

I think they are kind of cute. Not in a sexy way, but in an adorable child you hope isn't eaten by the monster sort of way.

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

"Breaking news: pimping parlors preoccupied with profound poverty as pussy prices plummet. More at 11"

[sup]After writing "pussy prices plummet" I had to write the rest in p's too... sorry[/sup]

Now, assuming it wouldn't end in violence or other atrocities, I'd guess it'd be special only as long as it takes for the horniness factor to wear off. Children aged 0-3 would have no memories of a world before the surplus of what used to be considered ultra uber hot women, and would therefore be the norm for them. But then again there's our natural programming for certain characteristics, ingrained through millennia of natural selection. That kind of thing doesn't just wear off in a generation. Teenage boys would certainly have a field day if nothing else.

It's fascinating to think what would become the new gold standard for attractiveness if the current one suddenly became the norm though. What would we start emphasizing?

 

[Level 7 Dragon]

Personally, I think the alien invasion aspect would overshadow the overall sexual market aspect of the scenario. If creatures with rather different physiology specifically tailored to appeal to human males began popping up all over the globe, I doubt that most of the species would take kindly to imposters attempting to invade their communities.

Plus, humans date and marry partners not based on their hip to waist ratio, but also based on their cognitive and social abulities. I mean, how would the psychology of those specimens differ from that of avarage human women? Would there be a violent Salem-esque reaction from the general public? Would religious organization try to proclaim those females as demons? What would the scientific community uncover about the phenomena?

 

[EternallyBored]

Your hypothetical sucks, not for the content, but because it's too broad and scattershot to answer any of your questions you need to be specific because how society reacts to Asari, or magical monster girls, or just an influx of regular human women through genetic engineering or some other method is going to vary wildly. A bunch of hot women just suddenly appearing one day would likely cause massive societal upheaval if not collapse, if they are aliens or magical monsters like in some anime the immediate response is almost definitely going to be hunting them down and isolating them until proper tests are conducted, whereas being contacted by an Asari like race who just have ships in orbit is going to provoke a much different response. If it's literally anime women, then are we assuming somewhat normalized proportions to make them look like humans or do they actually have giant anime googley eyes, in which case a not insignificant number of people will likely find that falling into the uncanny valley of being horrible and off putting.

If you want speculation on something as specific as dating mechanics or political ramifications then you need to come up with a specific hypothetical scenario for why all these extra women are here. If you just wanted to know what society would be like with a steep gender imbalance then you need to remove all that shit about aliens and anime shows involving those women as non human or super powered entities. If you specifically want to know how society would react to anime alien space babes or monster girls then you need to set up the scenario for how they got here, what their powers are, and how much they are mingling with humanity, even just the capability to interbreed with humans is going to massively change how much society is effected, your Asari example is also different from the other hypotheticals simply because they can propogate their species with men and women but the child is still technically a full Asari.

The idea can make for a good hypothetical but you need to be more specific as it's impossible to even guess at the cultural and political ramifications if the scenario runs the gamut from people magically appearing one day, to psychic space aliens.

 

[the December King]

Your hypothetical sucks, not for the content, but because it's too broad and scattershot to answer any of your questions you need to be specific because how society reacts to Asari, or magical monster girls, or just an influx of regular human women through genetic engineering or some other method is going to vary wildly. A bunch of hot women just suddenly appearing one day would likely cause massive societal upheaval if not collapse, if they are aliens or magical monsters like in some anime the immediate response is almost definitely going to be hunting them down and isolating them until proper tests are conducted, whereas being contacted by an Asari like race who just have ships in orbit is going to provoke a much different response. If it's literally anime women, then are we assuming somewhat normalized proportions to make them look like humans or do they actually have giant anime googley eyes, in which case a not insignificant number of people will likely find that falling into the uncanny valley of being horrible and off putting.

If you want speculation on something as specific as dating mechanics or political ramifications then you need to come up with a specific hypothetical scenario for why all these extra women are here. If you just wanted to know what society would be like with a steep gender imbalance then you need to remove all that shit about aliens and anime shows involving those women as non human or super powered entities. If you specifically want to know how society would react to anime alien space babes or monster girls then you need to set up the scenario for how they got here, what their powers are, and how much they are mingling with humanity, even just the capability to interbreed with humans is going to massively change how much society is effected, your Asari example is also different from the other hypotheticals simply because they can propogate their species with men and women but the child is still technically a full Asari.

The idea can make for a good hypothetical but you need to be more specific as it's impossible to even guess at the cultural and political ramifications if the scenario runs the gamut from people magically appearing one day, to psychic space aliens.

I agree. The juggling of the whole "aliens or monsters" issue completely precedes the "hot girls" angle, and the question of whether they are actually anime girls, proportioned as pictured, or just stereo typically attractive and busty, but human, women.

There's an interesting question in there, it just needs some 'fleshing out', I think.

I'll show myself out!

 

[hermes]

Yeah, your argument has some problems. If your point is about animelike, demons, elves, aliens or just girls with bunny ears would appear, I think the curiosity of how they came here and what are they capable of will come before the horny aspect.

If your point is about how would society cope with being highly unbalanced on one side of another, I would say pretty well, as it has happened numerous times. For example, during WW I and 2, there were up to 60 million people, most of them young boys. That meant entire cities that lost a pretty sizable part of the 16-25 population. That meant that those communities had to cope with having an entire generation with a ratio of 1:3 or more of men vs women.

 

[Paragon Fury]

Update: I've added an addendum to the first post to make for a bit more directed discussion rather than the generally open-ended one I had made before.

 

[Paragon Fury]

If those pictures are anything to go by, human women have nothing to worry about.

But I don't think it would matter. Those ideal, perfect women would probably end up with ideal, perfect men. I don't see why the gender paradigm would change just because we invented robots.

While true the majority us might not do much better, the increase in sheer availability and chances would make it so many more of us would (and probably encourage more people to try).

 

[Thaluikhain]

If those pictures are anything to go by, human women have nothing to worry about.

But I don't think it would matter. Those ideal, perfect women would probably end up with ideal, perfect men. I don't see why the gender paradigm would change just because we invented robots.

While true the majority us might not do much better, the increase in sheer availability and chances would make it so many more of us would (and probably encourage more people to try).

Wait, is this about you being able to get a date, or upgrade to a "better" date if aliens invade? Are you being asked to betray the Earth for invasions with benefits?

 

[Paragon Fury]

If those pictures are anything to go by, human women have nothing to worry about.

But I don't think it would matter. Those ideal, perfect women would probably end up with ideal, perfect men. I don't see why the gender paradigm would change just because we invented robots.

While true the majority us might not do much better, the increase in sheer availability and chances would make it so many more of us would (and probably encourage more people to try).

Wait, is this about you being able to get a date, or upgrade to a "better" date if aliens invade? Are you being asked to betray the Earth for invasions with benefits?

No. I mean, why would have that idea?

 

[skywolfblue]

If those pictures are anything to go by, human women have nothing to worry about.

But I don't think it would matter. Those ideal, perfect women would probably end up with ideal, perfect men. I don't see why the gender paradigm would change just because we invented robots.

While true the majority us might not do much better, the increase in sheer availability and chances would make it so many more of us would (and probably encourage more people to try).

A sudden increase in females isn't going to make us nerds any more appealing. Adding more females just means more for the "alpha males".

...Unless these are magical space women with no ability to say "No". Which is an equally horrifying prospect...

 

[Paragon Fury]

If those pictures are anything to go by, human women have nothing to worry about.

But I don't think it would matter. Those ideal, perfect women would probably end up with ideal, perfect men. I don't see why the gender paradigm would change just because we invented robots.

While true the majority us might not do much better, the increase in sheer availability and chances would make it so many more of us would (and probably encourage more people to try).

A sudden increase in females isn't going to make us nerds any more appealing. Adding more females just means more for the "alpha males".

...Unless these are magical space women with no ability to say "No". Which is an equally horrifying prospect...

The sheer increase in numbers would make trying more worthwhile though; going from a 5% chance to a 10% chance is still bad odds, but significantly better.

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

The sheer increase in numbers would make trying more worthwhile though; going from a 5% chance to a 10% chance is still bad odds, but significantly better.

Except love is not really a numbers game like that. The only way you can say that love is a numbers game is in the regard that meeting more people increases the reference pool for you and thus increases the chance that someone you've met will be of romantic interest to you.

Dating still comes down to "do I hit it off with this other person?" and that chance is unlikely to change just because there are more people around. Or rather, when you go on a date you don't think "can I do better than this?", you think "is this someone who I have romantic feelings for?". If you can't instill those feelings in someone else, your chances of finding a partner remains as low as before, no matter how many people you could potentially get to go on a first date with you. So these alien girls would increase the reference pool of potential partners for all guys, but those men that lack the ability to instill romantic interest would still be just as boned, because they'd be unlikely to do any better then they are now. If you can't afford a car, it doesn't matter how many new cars are produced every year (to use a terrible analogy).

 

[Paragon Fury]

The sheer increase in numbers would make trying more worthwhile though; going from a 5% chance to a 10% chance is still bad odds, but significantly better.

Except love is not really a numbers game like that. The only way you can say that love is a numbers game is in the regard that meeting more people increases the reference pool for you and thus increases the chance that someone you've met will be of romantic interest to you.

Dating still comes down to "do I hit it off with this other person?" and that chance is unlikely to change just because there are more people around. Or rather, when you go on a date you don't think "can I do better than this?", you think "is this someone who I have romantic feelings for?". If you can't instill those feelings in someone else, your chances of finding a partner remains as low as before, no matter how many people you could potentially get to go on a first date with you. So these alien girls would increase the reference pool of potential partners for all guys, but those men that lack the ability to instill romantic interest would still be just as boned, because they'd be unlikely to do any better then they are now. If you can't afford a car, it doesn't matter how many new cars are produced every year (to use a terrible analogy).

This actually leads into part of why I posed the question in the first place; and that is what would it be like if dating suddenly became a men's game again?

This requires a bit of explanation, so I'll give the cliff notes version;

Mating in humans, biologically, is almost 100% a woman's game; they normally have complete and total control over the process, selections of mates, are have an almost 100% reproduction success rate throughout human history. Males by contrast have a HORRIBLE success rate - some estimates have it that only 40% of men who have ever lived have a descendant with their DNA left today (compared to all the women who have ever lived).

It is a big reason why so many societies try to purposefully rig the rules in favor of men - as many people even here can attest to.

The only times mating in humans becomes a men's game is when there is a sudden shortage of men - IE: directly following a large disaster or war (men, as we all know, typically suffer tremendously more causalities during these kinds of events than women do).

The last time this happened was in the wake of WW2 - having two major global conflicts back-to-back SEVERELY depleted the number of mating/dating age men across the globe, even the in US. Men for several generations were on the "winning" side of the equation - women had to compete for them and couldn't risk being nearly as picky as they'd like to be (as there were neither the men around nor had women gained the economic power yet to afford to be able to do so).

Then the numbers leveled back out, women gained more economic power and the technological revolution happened and mating/dating has been for quite some time a purely women's game again (in fact, I think we've had this discussion in another topic).

Part of the question here was; what would happen if suddenly the numbers became imbalanced again - where the numbers now became a men's game again? Then there additional parts as to what would happen if the imbalance also included say, making the standards for beauty much higher etc.

EDIT: I misquoted the % for males, and have fixed it above.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

If those pictures are anything to go by, human women have nothing to worry about.

But I don't think it would matter. Those ideal, perfect women would probably end up with ideal, perfect men. I don't see why the gender paradigm would change just because we invented robots.

While true the majority us might not do much better, the increase in sheer availability and chances would make it so many more of us would (and probably encourage more people to try).

A sudden increase in females isn't going to make us nerds any more appealing. Adding more females just means more for the "alpha males".

...Unless these are magical space women with no ability to say "No". Which is an equally horrifying prospect...

I don't think the distillation of people into alpha males and nerds is helpful for this discussion as it assumes lack of real agency from the hypothetical women. Women have tastes, some like aggressive, some like intelligent.

OT: ultimately, this question would depend on which culture this is being introduced to. More feminine cultures or matriarchal cultures would have better reception than masculine or patriarchal cultures. I also don't think Japan will do it well given the amount of and reception to rather distasteful doujins where women are made into sex dolls or have rights stripped. America might have issues with sexual image or protest from the puritan population.