Intel: PC gaming is not dying, it's doing better than all the other consoles

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shaboinkin

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Not sure if this was posted before but this surprised the hell out of me

http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2010/04/19/hear-that-knocking-sound-its-pc-gaming/
[NOTE: There are some fancy, elaborate, and complicated charts and graphs in the link]
Hear that knocking sound? It?s PC gaming!
By Mandy Mock (Intel) (1 posts) on April 19, 2010 at 1:14 pm

Do you know what the opportunities are in PC gaming? They?re probably better then you think ? the PC gaming market is much bigger than consoles, both in installed base and in money made.

Sound hard to believe? Between how fast changes are happening in game models and distribution mechanisms and industry reports that only give a piece of the whole picture, it?s hard to get a really good feel for what?s happening in PC gaming. And yet, knowing things like how many gaming PCs are out there, how much revenue PC games generate, what the most popular gaming styles are and so forth is critical to deciding what kind of game to build, how to generate revenue from it, and how to distribute it.

We here in the Visual Adrenaline team have struggled with this too. We ask all the same questions as we try to find the best ways to work with games developers and to help them leverage the IA platform. We?ve accumulated a lot of data internally and done a lot of analysis on it. We think it?s helped us to form some answers to these questions, and we want to share the data we?ve put together with you and hear your thoughts on it. Our hope is that together we can create greater accuracy and more transparency around the trends that are happening in PC gaming.

Let?s start with the question of whether there are more consoles or gaming PCs. We consulted reports from the usual suspects - IDC*, DFC*, Mercury*, NPD*, IN-STAT*, Screen Digest*, the PCGA* and a bit of our own internal data to come up with the estimate in the graph for how many units of each platform there are out there today and over the next 5 years.

For the console numbers, we used the number of active consoles globally (in other words, consoles sold minus an estimate of how many have gotten broken or lost or stuck in the back of the closet.) For PCs, we took 2 years cumulative sales of DX10+ discrete graphics cards to estimate the number of enthusiast PCs that are capable of playing most games. That means the estimate might be a little high, since some of those cards might have gone into the same systems or non-gaming systems. At the same time, the estimate might be a little low since we only used 2 cumulative years worth of sales, which is a little short for a PC lifespan. We think those 2 factors probably balance each other out and that this estimate is pretty close.

What?s interesting to see is just how much larger the PC base is than any of the consoles. To tell you the truth, I really hadn?t realized how large a difference it is until I put this chart together. Enthusiast PCs are 62% of the total market, and there are 4PCs out there for every Wii, 7 PCs for every Xbox360 and 8 PCs for every PS3. Wow.

The second interesting thing is that almost all of the forecasted growth is in notebooks. For a lot of people now, a notebook is the only way to go. I think there will always be a place for desktops, especially with really serious gamers, but a larger and larger percentage of gaming is happening on notebooks.

Now on to the question of how much revenue from gaming each platform generates. We used a similar process to develop our estimate here as we did for the chart above.

The top 3 sections of the chart show, in US dollars, the total amount of revenue generated globally from all types of games on the Wii, the Xbox360 and the PS3. The bottom 3 rows are all gaming revenue from PCs, broken into 3 categories. The bottom category we called PC Traditional Game SW. This basically covers games that you pay for upfront. Whether purchased in retail or downloaded online, if you paid for the game before playing it, we put it in this category. The PC MMOG category covers subscription based gaming. And the PC Free to Play category includes games that are based on transactions (like buying equipment or upgrades in the game) and on advertising.

Today, PC gaming generates 43% of the total gaming revenue. The next closest platform is the Wii, which generated 24% of the total gaming revenue in 2009. And the PC share is growing ? by 2013, the forecast is that PC gaming will represent 56% of the total pie.

It?s interesting to see that the growth in PC gaming revenue is predicted to come from the newer business models ? subscription and online transactions. This matches my intuition ? with piracy being difficult to overcome in the traditional games model, the newer business models are increasingly attractive. And a good chunk of that growth in the number of units of PCs out there is due to growth in developing markets. In those markets in particular, lower upfront cost models are extremely popular.

So, there are our estimates for the number of PCs out there versus consoles and the revenue generated from PC games. We think it paints a pretty compelling picture for developing games on the PC.

Now, tell us what you think!

I always thought piracy had somewhat of an impact...

My question: Why are developers "leaving" the platform?
 

crazypsyko666

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Hah! Piracy has very little impact on the actual market. I've seen statistics showing as much as 1 in every 100 PC game pirated would have been bought otherwise. So, they've lost what? A couple hundred units? In the grand scheme of things, yes, it adds up, but it's negligible.

(DON'T TURN THIS INTO A PIRACY RANT THREAD. JUST DON'T DO IT.)
 

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crazypsyko666 said:
Hah! Piracy has very little impact on the actual market. I've seen statistics showing as much as 1 in every 100 PC game pirated would have been bought otherwise. So, they've lost what? A couple hundred units? In the grand scheme of things, yes, it adds up, but it's negligible.

(DON'T TURN THIS INTO A PIRACY RANT THREAD. JUST DON'T DO IT.)

I know that downloading a game does not equal a scale, but I always figured that it would affect the sales somewhat. I know people that torrent stuff just so they don't have to pay for something.

Xzi said:
Developers are leaving the PC for two reasons. First, PC gamers hold games to a higher standard. We want complex control schemes, rich gameplay with a lot of variety, excellent storylines, and we want all this in a pretty package (good graphics). No offense to anyone, but the console crowd in general is far more accepting of the same old same old. Just look at Modern Warfare 2's sales for proof of this. It's easier to develop a simplistic game based on previously-used standards than it is to give us something original or unique.
Agreed, this is why I won't buy another "big budget fps" that caters to consoles. My only problem is that my friends all play on the 360, so I give in every now and then.
 

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Xzi said:
Developers are leaving the PC for two reasons. First, PC gamers hold games to a higher standard. We want complex control schemes, rich gameplay with a lot of variety, excellent storylines, and we want all this in a pretty package (good graphics).
I don't think that's true. TF2 is an excellent game and is very popular. It isn't fancy at all. It doesn't have a story, it isn't complex and it's not very pretty (though it does have a cool art style). It really is just a hardcore tournament shooter and its hella fun.
 

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PC gaming will never die for two reasons:

1. MMOs
2. Multiplayer RTS games

Both of them make up an enormous market share that console gaming barely dents. I don't understand the cross-platform hate between the two sometimes - I enjoy both. I have my PS3 for sports games and shooters, and my PC for strategy games
 

crazypsyko666

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Sober Thal said:
crazypsyko666 said:
Hah! Piracy has very little impact on the actual market. I've seen statistics showing as much as 1 in every 100 PC game pirated would have been bought otherwise. So, they've lost what? A couple hundred units? In the grand scheme of things, yes, it adds up, but it's negligible.

(DON'T TURN THIS INTO A PIRACY RANT THREAD. JUST DON'T DO IT.)
Yeah, you are right! Pirates are nothing! PC gamers have nothing to fear but fear itself. PC gamers are the cream of the crop, they are better than any other gamer! Why bother with released games when you can mod them to be better?!

We all know it's cheaper to buy a better PC than a console, so why is this even comparable?

Let us all point and click our way to driver updates, component upgrades, and settings Gods!

Who cares if console gamers make up the majority of 'hardcore gamers'. That whole term is just fake anyways! We all know more people have a computer than have a console. So fuck those mindless types who .......

Aww snap.... I'm a console gamer by choice. I guess it's time for me to go die somewhere. Never mind. Good luck pointing and clicking your way into obscurity. Cause we all know that using a mouse is easier than using skill. Err I mean, twiddling your thumbs.

Seriously tho... Name 3 games that are PC only..... and do the rest of us care about them?

Answer: NO.
I can't tell whether you're stupid or if you're taking a shot at irony.
 

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Sober Thal said:
Yeah, you are right! Pirates are nothing! PC gamers have nothing to fear but fear itself. PC gamers are the cream of the crop, they are better than any other gamer! Why bother with released games when you can mod them to be better?!

We all know it's cheaper to buy a better PC than a console, so why is this even comparable?

Let us all point and click our way to driver updates, component upgrades, and settings Gods!

Who cares if console gamers make up the majority of 'hardcore gamers'. That whole term is just fake anyways! We all know more people have a computer than have a console. So fuck those mindless types who .......

Aww snap.... I'm a console gamer by choice. I guess it's time for me to go die somewhere. Never mind. Good luck pointing and clicking your way into obscurity. Cause we all know that using a mouse is easier than using skill. Err I mean, twiddling your thumbs.

Seriously tho... Name 3 games that are PC only..... and do the rest of us care about them?

Answer: NO.
Where the blazes did that come from? There hasn't been a single insult thrown yet towards either the PC or consoles, and then you come out of nowhere with a giant sarcastic rant like someone had just slapped your grandmother or something. Lighten up!

Games are games, it's not worth becoming attached to one system if it's at the expense of just having fun.

That said, being a primarily PC gamer, I still find this hard to believe. Sure the PC gaming demographic is pretty big, but in general you can expect to see numbers around 2 million for most major PC releases, which is around on par if not less than most major console releases. There are exceptions of course: World of Warcraft has more subscribers playing the game 'right now' than there probably are people on PS3's online. But frankly, and I say this as a fan of the game: WOW is a freak of nature. A one time thing I doubt is going to be replicated anytime soon!

Plus just because computers have the hardware 'to' play games doesn't mean the person who owns the computer does. Video Cards are required for some high-end technical work and there are rendering programs which demand a decent rig as well. None of which has anything to do with gaming.

Still, all that said, good on em! I love PC gaming, RTS, 4X strategy, Turn Based, FPS and the like just aren't the same on consoles. It's nice to see the platform is still doing well, despite the inevitable 'PC gaming is dying' topics that seem to pop up at least once or twice a week!
 

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crazypsyko666 said:
Sober Thal said:
I can't tell whether you're stupid or if you're taking a shot at irony.
I think it's a bit of both.

Really I don't find this hard to believe at all, I think most people judge a consoles liveliness by the amount of A-grade games that come out, consoles clearly have the bigger numbers, but PC gaming holds a huge number of people on it's smaller list of games.

TF2, Warcraft 3(DotA and other DotA based games, LoL and HoN), WoW, Starcraft and the upcoming sequel, Diablo 2 as well.
 

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Sober Thal said:
crazypsyko666 said:
Hah! Piracy has very little impact on the actual market. I've seen statistics showing as much as 1 in every 100 PC game pirated would have been bought otherwise. So, they've lost what? A couple hundred units? In the grand scheme of things, yes, it adds up, but it's negligible.

(DON'T TURN THIS INTO A PIRACY RANT THREAD. JUST DON'T DO IT.)
Yeah, you are right! Pirates are nothing! PC gamers have nothing to fear but fear itself. PC gamers are the cream of the crop, they are better than any other gamer! Why bother with released games when you can mod them to be better?!

We all know it's cheaper to buy a better PC than a console, so why is this even comparable?

Let us all point and click our way to driver updates, component upgrades, and settings Gods!

Who cares if console gamers make up the majority of 'hardcore gamers'. That whole term is just fake anyways! We all know more people have a computer than have a console. So fuck those mindless types who .......

Aww snap.... I'm a console gamer by choice. I guess it's time for me to go die somewhere. Never mind. Good luck pointing and clicking your way into obscurity. Cause we all know that using a mouse is easier than using skill. Err I mean, twiddling your thumbs.

Seriously tho... Name 3 games that are PC only..... and do the rest of us care about them?

Answer: NO.
Holy crap what happened there..

on to topic: Interesting read, some fancy language, and facts that really caught me pants down. I would like to point out however, that some PC's aren't in any way capable of running 3D games, so it's not really fair to say that there are an X amount of PC's per 360's.

I wouldn't say PC gaming is doing that much better than console gaming. Most games nowadays are made for consoles first, and then ported to PC. That's not because publishers love analog sticks, it's because consoles make more money.
 

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Sober Thal said:
crazypsyko666 said:
Sober Thal said:
crazypsyko666 said:
Hah! Piracy has very little impact on the actual market.
Seriously tho... Name 3 games that are PC only..... and do the rest of us care about them?

Answer: NO.
I can't tell whether you're stupid or if you're taking a shot at irony.
I must be stupid. Only smart people are PC gamers, eh?

Can you name 3 games that are PC exclusive that make it a better way to play games?

EDIT: I will help you....... Dawn of War II.

EDIT #2 : EVE Online.
The Witcher
 

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So sub based gaming is carrying PC, no surprise there. Sadly I don't think that a actual retail game beyond SC2 or the like will fare better on PC than console.
 

crazypsyko666

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Sober Thal said:
crazypsyko666 said:
Sober Thal said:
crazypsyko666 said:
Hah! Piracy has very little impact on the actual market.
Seriously tho... Name 3 games that are PC only..... and do the rest of us care about them?

Answer: NO.
I can't tell whether you're stupid or if you're taking a shot at irony.
I must be stupid. Only smart people are PC gamers, eh?

Can you name 3 games that are PC exclusive that make it a better way to play games?

EDIT: I will help you....... Dawn of War II.
Do you want me to just name the shooters, or should I be an unfair jackass and go with the whole spectrum? Eh, fuck it. This is what I can come up with off the top of my head.
Baldur's gate made RPGs what they are
Without Half life 1, (its expansions) and Deus Ex, We'd still be playing rail shooters. Or Halo.

It's already been established enough that consoles are incapable of the strategy genre in general, so it's not even fair to mention the blizzard games. Any of them. And by the way, the dawn of war series is considered to be good, but not as high as you seem to put it. The only reason I'd want to buy a console is for God of War and Killzone 2. Maybe SSBB.

Don't get me started on MMOs, which make billions a year.

And besides the obvious software upgrades, A mouse is strictly better than a gamepad. It's been tested. Have you seen matches between Xbox 360 and PC linked games? It's a massacre.

So, get off your stupid little high-horse or your need to defend whatever console you've invested in. We don't care. STOP FLAMING

Edit: Many of these are old, yes. I don't see a single game on a console that hasn't taken inspiration from a PC game from the old days.