Internet Monitoring to Happen July 1st

[Iron Lightning]

I was a bit worried when I clicked to read the article, but then I saw
"Former pregnant inmate sues after being forced to wear shackles during labor" above it and know that everything will be okay.

Sorry mate, you're wrong, it's completely true. If you don't trust that source, then here's the Cnet article stating pretty much the smae thing: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57397452-261/riaa-chief-isps-to-start-policing-copyright-by-july-1/?tag=mncol;topStories

 

[5ilver]

Yeah, bro, I'm sure they're going to be monitoring every single packet for millions upon millions of users.

 

[The Funslinger]

Quick, everybody pirate now while we're still untraceable by the Cyber Police!

Yeah! After this, the consequences will never be the same! xD

 

[UNHchabo]

Specifically, they?re coming for you on Thursday, July 1.

Oh good, so not until 2021!

July 1 of this year falls on a Sunday.

 

[ReinWeisserRitter]

I honestly doubt this will happen people have a constitutional right for privacy.

If there's anything recent years have proven, it's that human rights mean fuck all to copyright holders and the people who make money sucking off copyright holders.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Ok let me rephrase that, it has become a witch hunt. It's gotten even crazier than the Salem Witch Tials or the McCarthy Trials.

All in the name of Copyright...
There's protecting ones livelihood/career and then there's fear-mongering.
We have now found the point where they collide: and it's just one of those things that you step back and see just how fucking absurd things have become in the modern world.

"Absurd" isn't quite the word I would use, try more like 'batshit fucking insane.'

 

[Kolby Jack]

I honestly doubt this will happen people have a constitutional right for privacy.

Please point out where in the constitution it says you have a right to privacy. It says your home can't be used by soldiers and your property can't be taken from you unless it is fairly paid for by the government. I don't recall anywhere in the constitution saying you have a right to privacy.

Hell, my understanding (source: Gavin Free) is that in the UK they have cameras EVERYWHERE and the government monitors far more of the daily lives of people than would ever be considered "acceptable" by US citizens. I can't say whether this is okay with all Brits, but Gavin said it was just something they lived with and if you didn't break the law, you had absolutely nothing to worry about.

 

[Belated]

I honestly doubt this will happen people have a constitutional right for privacy.

If there's anything recent years have proven, it's that human rights mean fuck all to copyright holders and the people who make money sucking off copyright holders.

...And we also don't have a constitutional right to privacy. At least not where I come from.

So VPN services and Tor would throw them off? I always heard Tor wasn't that great.

 

[likalaruku]

::Sees "download," sees nothing about "watching uploads":: Well, what will they do about people watching this stuff online through proxies?

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I honestly doubt this will happen people have a constitutional right for privacy.

If there's anything recent years have proven, it's that human rights mean fuck all to copyright holders and the people who make money sucking off copyright holders.

Or to put that another way, human rights pale in the face of the almighty dollar (or pound, or euro, or ruble, or yen, or whatever your currency of choice is)

 

[ChaplainOrion]

Well I looked up July 1 and one of the first things is "July 1 Martial Law" So we at least have that to look forward to.

And it's totally truthful too, I saw it on a website dedicated to warning good christian Americans about the New World Order.

 

[Asita]

I honestly doubt this will happen people have a constitutional right for privacy.

Please point out where in the constitution it says you have a right to privacy. It says your home can't be used by soldiers and your property can't be taken from you unless it is fairly paid for by the government. I don't recall anywhere in the constitution saying you have a right to privacy.

Well for starters, there's the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable search and seizure. To quote:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Offhand[footnote]and mind you, I'm no law student, so this is a rather uninformed supposition[/footnote] one could possibly argue that the process entailed by this constitutes a violation of this amendment due to the way it neither requires probable cause or warrant to monitor people.

 

[Syzygy23]

Don't care. July 1st is Planetside day and I will be playing Planetside.

*Spits out water violently*

Planetside 2 is being released july 1st? WHAT?!? I thought that shit was due out sometime next year!

 

[ReinWeisserRitter]

I honestly doubt this will happen people have a constitutional right for privacy.

If there's anything recent years have proven, it's that human rights mean fuck all to copyright holders and the people who make money sucking off copyright holders.

Or to put that another way, human rights pale in the face of the almighty dollar (or pound, or euro, or ruble, or yen, or whatever your currency of choice is)

That's more or less the story of our species as a whole, really.

Animals and the environment can piss off, too. I won't live more than a hundred years, so who cares how awful I make things for everyone else!

 

[=y]

Quick, everybody pirate now while we're still untraceable by the Cyber Police!

You'll receive an email shortly about the backtrace on your proxy servers. No number of firewalls can protect your codes from our back door investigators now.

OT: Like others have stated I'm not to concerned about the ISPs getting behind this. Also I am Canadian so this is only partially relevant to me. I don't want to see this happen here at all.

 

[piinyouri]

Known about this since March.

Still don't know how to feel about it to be honest.

 

[Kolby Jack]

I honestly doubt this will happen people have a constitutional right for privacy.

Please point out where in the constitution it says you have a right to privacy. It says your home can't be used by soldiers and your property can't be taken from you unless it is fairly paid for by the government. I don't recall anywhere in the constitution saying you have a right to privacy.

Well for starters, there's the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable search and seizure. To quote:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Offhand[footnote]and mind you, I'm no law student, so this is a rather uninformed supposition[/footnote] one could possibly argue that the process entailed by this constitutes a violation of this amendment due to the way it neither requires probable cause or warrant to monitor people.

This doesn't really qualify as unlawful search and seizure. Nobody owns the internet, and you can't own stolen goods. This is more like a stake-out, if anything. They watch traffic, see who downloads what, and then bust them. They don't search through your computer to find the files, they get a ping when you are in the process of downloading them, supposedly. That's not unlawful, nor is it even really an invasion of privacy.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

Well MSN hope you like Asian Fart Porn, 'cause you're gonna see a lot of it.

 

[Unsilenced]

I don't think this can count as a constitutional issue because it's the ISPs that are doing it. Depending on how it works, it might just come down to them monitoring the way their own infrastructure is used, which they're allowed to do.


That said, it's a terrible idea, and will end one of two ways.

A) Protections are laughably ineffective, do nothing to stop piracy.
B) It flips a shit and the companies are flooded with reports of piracy, real or otherwise.

...

I guess C) (Both) is also an option.