Internet penis - Does it really matter?

[Bertylicious]

"E-Peen" is really nothing more than respect. Respect is as old as social interaction and not native to the internet.

Respect is also earned, not given, so respect is in itself a kind of legacy. A history, if you will, that is carried in a person's mind. I think that dismissing the reputation of a person out of hand is potentially foolish as you don't get something from nothing.

Don Savik is right though; what someone did before shouldn't grant them immunity to criticism.

E-Peen is not exactly the same thing as respect. Afterall, having a high score in a game or great equipment in a MMORPG often gives E-peen, but not always deserves respect. E-Peen is more about "bragging rights".
I've seen sooo many WoW-players with huge E-peen, that do not give, nor deerve, respect, simply because their awe3sum-gear wasn't really earned by personal skill or team-work, but unbalanced game-mechanics.

I dunno actually, I think your position may be flawed. See, what earns respect with one bunch of people may not earn respect with others. Like, say someone made a post asking what people thought about the Mass Effect ending DLC and I said "Needs more rape" as a joke then some people might think that was funny but I imagine a lot of other people would think it was immature and crass.

What I'm trying to say, in my clumsy and inarticulate manner, is that the high score, the special gear, is a means to obtain E-peen and not E-peen itself. The E-peen exists in the eye of the beholder, but is earned by the beholden.

I don't know how well I've explained myself. Does that make any sense?

 

[Realitycrash]

"E-Peen" is really nothing more than respect. Respect is as old as social interaction and not native to the internet.

Respect is also earned, not given, so respect is in itself a kind of legacy. A history, if you will, that is carried in a person's mind. I think that dismissing the reputation of a person out of hand is potentially foolish as you don't get something from nothing.

Don Savik is right though; what someone did before shouldn't grant them immunity to criticism.

E-Peen is not exactly the same thing as respect. Afterall, having a high score in a game or great equipment in a MMORPG often gives E-peen, but not always deserves respect. E-Peen is more about "bragging rights".
I've seen sooo many WoW-players with huge E-peen, that do not give, nor deerve, respect, simply because their awe3sum-gear wasn't really earned by personal skill or team-work, but unbalanced game-mechanics.

I dunno actually, I think your position may be flawed. See, what earns respect with one bunch of people may not earn respect with others. Like, say someone made a post asking what people thought about the Mass Effect ending DLC and I said "Needs more rape" as a joke then some people might think that was funny but I imagine a lot of other people would think it was immature and crass.

What I'm trying to say, in my clumsy and inarticulate manner, is that the high score, the special gear, is a means to obtain E-peen and not E-peen itself. The E-peen exists in the eye of the beholder, but is earned by the beholden.

I don't know how well I've explained myself. Does that make any sense?

You mean that E-Peen is more about fame/infamy than respect, perhaps?

 

[Bertylicious]

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You mean that E-Peen is more about fame/infamy than respect, perhaps?

No, that's what you said. What I said was that E-Peen and respect are one and the same thing and that the things you listed were merely tokens towards earning respect.

Fame and infamy merely relate to how well known something is rather than the esteem in which it is held.

 

[Realitycrash]

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You mean that E-Peen is more about fame/infamy than respect, perhaps?

No, that's what you said. What I said was that E-Peen and respect are one and the same thing and that the things you listed were merely tokens towards earning respect.

Fame and infamy merely relate to how well known something is rather than the esteem in which it is held.

Well, E-peen might be given by some for some acts, and not by others. It might be eye of the beholder, as you said, but doesn't say much about what exactly it is.

 

[Eclipse Dragon]

If a certain person is seen a lot around a community, of course they're going to get popular, because they're familiar. Everyone knows them.
This also happens in real life, the more you put yourself out there, the more people realize you exist. (Freelancing careers are almost dependent on this.)

It's when those people get big headed that it becomes a bad thing.

 

[penguindude42]

Go to a forum with reputation points and things get interesting...

That or a site fitted with Intensedebate.

 

[Wolfram23]

*points out my Joined date*

FOLLOW ME, MINIONS!!

 

[Bertylicious]

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You mean that E-Peen is more about fame/infamy than respect, perhaps?

No, that's what you said. What I said was that E-Peen and respect are one and the same thing and that the things you listed were merely tokens towards earning respect.

Fame and infamy merely relate to how well known something is rather than the esteem in which it is held.

Well, E-peen might be given by some for some acts, and not by others. It might be eye of the beholder, as you said, but doesn't say much about what exactly it is.

Ah, well yes! That is the big question, isn't it?

What is respect? It isn't the same as admiration because we can respect someone we dislike or even disagree with. It isn't the same as fame because we can respect someone or something that is not well known or even hidden.

Perhaps something that is respected must have an inherant value in order to garner that respect? It is conceivable, however, that someone would respect something that did not have inherant value through delusion or false perception of value. This would render the respect false but then would that neccesarily matter? Is the perception all that matters and that the eidos of perception, the truth of the belief, irrelevant?

All things, even delusions, have a root cause otherwise they would not be. In the case of a delusional value, a value which is perceived or deliberately presented as one thing when it is another, then closer inspection and rational interogation would expose that value to be false. So for example if someone were to tell you "Berty is very funny", which would then be a supposition, then presented doctored evidence where someone else's joke had my name on it then that would be a delusional value towards garnering respect through wit. Time would tell, however, that Berty is not funny and thus the respect would disapear as its foundation is disproved.

Perhaps this is what people mean when they say "I have lost respect for ..." as the underlying premise the value of respect was founded on has been disproved.

 

[DugMachine]

I know this all too well. You will find it in every nook and cranny of the internet. Myself, I find it a lot in TF2 servers where there is always this one guy who never shuts the hell up and when I ask nicely if he can please keep it down, I get a swift ban or told by the entire server that he's a regular and i'm supposed to care about his yelling and unfunny remarks. I won't sit there and rage, i'll just leave. But it can get quite annoying

A lot of it in WoW as well. There are always 2 or 3 players per server (per faction) that have been around since the server was made, in the best guilds, have the best gear, and have the most skill and we're supposed to worship the very ground they walk on. A majority of them aren't even humble about it, they think they deserve the praise for being good at a video game and nobody should go against what they say. Idiots

 

[Cheery Lunatic]

I've noticed some circle-jerking going around here (and some pretty bad group-think too...), but I never really treated forums as a way solely to get friends/gain respect. I just like discuss stuff I never really get to irl.

 

[Realitycrash]

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You mean that E-Peen is more about fame/infamy than respect, perhaps?

No, that's what you said. What I said was that E-Peen and respect are one and the same thing and that the things you listed were merely tokens towards earning respect.

Fame and infamy merely relate to how well known something is rather than the esteem in which it is held.

Well, E-peen might be given by some for some acts, and not by others. It might be eye of the beholder, as you said, but doesn't say much about what exactly it is.

Ah, well yes! That is the big question, isn't it?

What is respect? It isn't the same as admiration because we can respect someone we dislike or even disagree with. It isn't the same as fame because we can respect someone or something that is not well known or even hidden.

Perhaps something that is respected must have an inherant value in order to garner that respect? It is conceivable, however, that someone would respect something that did not have inherant value through delusion or false perception of value. This would render the respect false but then would that neccesarily matter? Is the perception all that matters and that the eidos of perception, the truth of the belief, irrelevant?

All things, even delusions, have a root cause otherwise they would not be. In the case of a delusional value, a value which is perceived or deliberately presented as one thing when it is another, then closer inspection and rational interogation would expose that value to be false. So for example if someone were to tell you "Berty is very funny", which would then be a supposition, then presented doctored evidence where someone else's joke had my name on it then that would be a delusional value towards garnering respect through wit. Time would tell, however, that Berty is not funny and thus the respect would disapear as its foundation is disproved.

Perhaps this is what people mean when they say "I have lost respect for ..." as the underlying premise the value of respect was founded on has been disproved.

In either case, I can not agree with that E-Peen in any fashion is connected with respect. After playing WoW for 5 years, I've never heard E-peen been used in any form but an ironic, derogatory one. Respect at least carries some positive connotations, but I've never experienced these from the term "E-Peen". The term stands for Electronic Penis, and, from what I understand to be correct, is used to signalize when a person is in a pissing-contest with another, that they are "measuring their penises", i.e comparing E-Peen. The one with "bigger" E-peen might have better stats, or score, but it doesn't make him more respectable, as engaging in childish behavior and comparing E-Peen have always been universally derided.
Now, said person (the one with the big E-Peen) might still be a highly respectable person, skilled, friendly, etc. But when he "compares E-peen", he is engaging in a lowly act of bragging.

 

[Total LOLige]

My E-Peen is virtually non-existent. I manage to be an arse just fine without an inflated ego. To be honest the Escapist is the only forum I use and I haven't noticed any dicks with massive E-Penises.

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

*points out my Joined date*

FOLLOW ME, MINIONS!!

*notes date, realizes it's near my birthday*

*remembers birthday*

*shit-eating grin acquired*

God, you're old.....

*runs away trying to laugh and scream at the same time*

 

[Hawkolf]

Dude...dont mess with reptsupurae...not cause they will own you or nothing, they are just awesome

My point excatly. They might've made good videos (don't know, haven't watched) but the one I was talking about was absolutely unfunny but if they make even one video people don't like, their fans are already making hangman's nooses and gathering torches.

And like it has been said, many people with big and plentiful internet penises aren't all douches. Their followers (they act like a cult...) are the ones that usually get on my nerves. I don't know if they get this feeling of approval from god himself when they furioysly defend their hero no matter what but it can get really frustrating.

 

[Sacman]

Yes, yes, yes... internet penis size is just like IRL penis size... in that it's the most important thing in the world to the owner of the penis... and no matter what you say you can't convince them otherwise... even if you think so the niggling little doubt in the back of their head will always be there... reminding them just how important the size is...

and regardless of how big it is or how much it actually matters... the owner must at all times be given praise towards it to quell their insecurities... because it only takes a bit of doubt to bring it all crashing down...

and I sort of forgot where I was going with this... but whatever...<.<

 

[Bordersane]

My beautiful innocence was savagely taken from me after deciding to spend ten minutes on chatroulette. I was never the same....