Internet required to play

[maxmanrules]

I have a better solution, buy the game, and then pirate it as well. That way they get their money for the game, and you get a game that doesn't block you from playing it. Interestingly, I have all the Company of Heroes expansions installed on my machine, and when I try to play with my comp connected to the internet, it tells me I need to insert my disk (classic DRM bullshit there, lots of people have this problem) I insert the disk and it claims the media is not recognized. However, if I turn the internet OFF, it will recognize the disk. DRM is sooo fail.

 

[maxmanrules]

I have a better solution, buy the game, and then pirate it as well. That way they get their money for the game, and you get a game that doesn't block you from playing it. Interestingly, I have all the Company of Heroes expansions installed on my machine, and when I try to play with my comp connected to the internet, it tells me I need to insert my disk (classic DRM bullshit there, lots of people have this problem) I insert the disk and it claims the media is not recognized. However, if I turn the internet OFF, it will recognize the disk. DRM is sooo fail.

Just don't buy games with that DRM at all. If they still get their money they will keep doing it. It's not like there aren't plenty of other quality games to play that don't come with this bullshit.

Yeah, fair enough. But then you don't get to play the game

Also, the game is not just made by one amorphous blob, the game has many different people who work on the game. Just cause one marketing dickweed wants to put drm in a game means all the artists, coders, animators etc etc etc get less money and a shitton of hate brought down like a trolling rain on their studio and reputations.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

It really only bothers me because of latency and the possibility of being unable to play due to servers being down. My own internet is always up and quite fast but I still get noticeable latency when playing online as opposed to playing offline.
Even though it is something you don't really notice until you do it. I never realized just how bad the latency in Starcraft 2 was until I happened to play it offline once and suddenly everything was instant.

 

[aba1]

I have a better solution, buy the game, and then pirate it as well. That way they get their money for the game, and you get a game that doesn't block you from playing it. Interestingly, I have all the Company of Heroes expansions installed on my machine, and when I try to play with my comp connected to the internet, it tells me I need to insert my disk (classic DRM bullshit there, lots of people have this problem) I insert the disk and it claims the media is not recognized. However, if I turn the internet OFF, it will recognize the disk. DRM is sooo fail.

Just don't buy games with that DRM at all. If they still get their money they will keep doing it. It's not like there aren't plenty of other quality games to play that don't come with this bullshit.

Yeah, fair enough. But then you don't get to play the game

Also, the game is not just made by one amorphous blob, the game has many different people who work on the game. Just cause one marketing dickweed wants to put drm in a game means all the artists, coders, animators etc etc etc get less money and a shitton of hate brought down like a trolling rain on their studio and reputations.

I can live with not playing a game if it means not encouraging this in the future. I don't know about you, but I have a backlog on steam and GOG.com that will keep me busy forever! Not to mention building a collection of gamecube, ps2 and ps1 games that aren't infected with this nonsense.

Unfortunately there isn't a way to treat them as separate and unless there is a way we have no choice but to treat them as a single entity and the best we can do is get in contact and say "we like the look of the game, but I won't tolerate the DRM". Probably futile but if enough people did it maybe they would listen.

you realize games on steam cannot be played without the internet because without internet you cannot log into steam thus steam actually owns your games and you just pay them for them to let you play them and if they decide to stop offering the games you bought they will be gone?

 

[Strain42]

Yes. If I have to be connected to the internet to play single player mode with little to no net issues involve, I am annoyed.

I play a lot of iPod games now, and I intentionally avoid buying any that require a stable net connection to play.

 

[JesterRaiin]

Anybody else disappointed that slowly the industry is moving towards a set up where you will need to be connected to internet at all times just to play a game or do you like this and feel it is enhancing the experience and offering up new ideas.

Yeah. Not because it's unreasonable, but because there are so many of us who are willing to support gaming industry but can't afford fast, stable Internet connection.

 

[DEAD34345]

This shouldn't really effect me (since I do have a stable internet connection), but I refuse to buy those games anyway. There is no way in hell I'm going to pay £40 for a game, and then still have to connect to the internet to ask for the developer's (or publisher's, or whatever's) permission to play my own damn game.

 

[The Abhorrent]

I'm actually starting to get quite annoyed with this trend, though it hasn't been a detriment to me. The issue with requiring a perpetual connection is that it gives the publisher more control over their product; and unfortunately it can get a little ludicrous, because it can (and has) go beyond preventing the pirating of software and cheating.

I can't remember how the whole event ended, but I recall hearing of a person who bought Dragon Age II and hopped on the bandwagon to bash it. Someone then banned/suspended his account (or something along those lines), preventing him from playing the game at all; and potentially any other games on the same account as well. Bought a single-player game, but then prevented from playing it because he debased it on the internet. Sure, it was rather stupid to do that to begin with; but the punishment was flat-out excessive, banning/suspending him from the forums wouldn't of been unreasonable (the whole "Bash-DA2" fiasco was going out of hand anyhow). No matter how you put it, barring someone who bought a single-player game fair-and-square (regardless of their actions) is just going too far.

As I've said, this trend hasn't affected me; I've got a stable (and constant) internet connection and I'm not one to be one of the countless loud morons who hop on whatever bandwagon is passing by to bash any given game. Still, it opens up far too much potential for abuse by the publisher; them exercising their powers isn't technically illegal either, but it's still not something which I approve of.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

It's yet another blow to consumer rights but since gamers are so willing to take it up the ass it will eventually become a standard for the industry.

 

[maxmanrules]

I have a better solution, buy the game, and then pirate it as well. That way they get their money for the game, and you get a game that doesn't block you from playing it. Interestingly, I have all the Company of Heroes expansions installed on my machine, and when I try to play with my comp connected to the internet, it tells me I need to insert my disk (classic DRM bullshit there, lots of people have this problem) I insert the disk and it claims the media is not recognized. However, if I turn the internet OFF, it will recognize the disk. DRM is sooo fail.

Just don't buy games with that DRM at all. If they still get their money they will keep doing it. It's not like there aren't plenty of other quality games to play that don't come with this bullshit.

Yeah, fair enough. But then you don't get to play the game

Also, the game is not just made by one amorphous blob, the game has many different people who work on the game. Just cause one marketing dickweed wants to put drm in a game means all the artists, coders, animators etc etc etc get less money and a shitton of hate brought down like a trolling rain on their studio and reputations.

I can live with not playing a game if it means not encouraging this in the future. I don't know about you, but I have a backlog on steam and GOG.com that will keep me busy forever! Not to mention building a collection of gamecube, ps2 and ps1 games that aren't infected with this nonsense.

Unfortunately there isn't a way to treat them as separate and unless there is a way we have no choice but to treat them as a single entity and the best we can do is get in contact and say "we like the look of the game, but I won't tolerate the DRM". Probably futile but if enough people did it maybe they would listen.

Good point, the PS2 has a damn good backlog of games, certain big enough for us to outlast the wave of DRM. I don't really like steam, purely for the fact it seems like another layer of DRM, albeit with the whole, yay, not going to the store part. And us sitting here and complaining about this DRM may in fact be useful, but only if they see it. A good idea would be to buy games that don't have DRM.