Internet troll is jailed after mocking deaths of teenagers online.
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So this kid goes to jail yet the Westboro Baptist Church gets to go on picketing soldier's funerals.
Why is the WBC protected by the 1st amendment and not this kid?
Why is the WBC protected by the 1st amendment and not this kid?
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went and found the article online... good stuff.
this guy also got an anti-social behavior order, legally banning him from all social networking sites and having to inform police if he has a phone with Internet access.
this is the sort of punishment we need to have for dick heads on the Internet. physical restriction of their digital access. of course finding these people will be difficult but the way I see it, the capabilities of a computer will eventually lead them to be registered to a person by law. Just like cars, guns, and social identity.
...see, now we're getting into scary territory here.
On one hand, we want our rights. STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN! VIVA LA ETC!
Rights are good. Rights give the people power.
On the other hand, we don't want bad things to happen. Murder, rape, jerks on the internet are all bad things. We give up some of our freedom for the reasonable trade of security.
Can you seriously advocate banning someone from the internet? That seems a little crazy to me. That sounds WAY too much big brother to me. PLEASE SCAN YOUR IDENTITY BARCODE TO LOG IN. BEEP BOOP.
No thanks. I kind of agree that he should be on a social network warning list though. He should be closely monitored to make sure he doesn't screw up again, but I don't think its reasonable to permaban him.
/shrug
There probably are people out there who don't deserve the internet anymore. Just sayin.
I didn't mean ban him from the Internet, just social sites. No shirts no shoes no service kinda deal. But yeah, registering your computer may sound insane
right now, but consider the people who voiced the same argument for guns, a no brainer in today's standards. Trolling is just a pitiful little example of how the Internet is being used maliciously. Identity fraud, illegal downloads, terrorist recruitment sites: billions if not trillions of dollars at stake here. The Internet is a world all it's own, and it's the wild west out here ATM.
I apologize for the shitty quote... Can't figure out this iPad...
went and found the article online... good stuff.
this guy also got an anti-social behavior order, legally banning him from all social networking sites and having to inform police if he has a phone with Internet access.
this is the sort of punishment we need to have for dick heads on the Internet. physical restriction of their digital access. of course finding these people will be difficult but the way I see it, the capabilities of a computer will eventually lead them to be registered to a person by law. Just like cars, guns, and social identity.
...see, now we're getting into scary territory here.
On one hand, we want our rights. STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN! VIVA LA ETC!
Rights are good. Rights give the people power.
On the other hand, we don't want bad things to happen. Murder, rape, jerks on the internet are all bad things. We give up some of our freedom for the reasonable trade of security.
Can you seriously advocate banning someone from the internet? That seems a little crazy to me. That sounds WAY too much big brother to me. PLEASE SCAN YOUR IDENTITY BARCODE TO LOG IN. BEEP BOOP.
No thanks. I kind of agree that he should be on a social network warning list though. He should be closely monitored to make sure he doesn't screw up again, but I don't think its reasonable to permaban him.
/shrug
There probably are people out there who don't deserve the internet anymore. Just sayin.
I didn't mean ban him from the Internet, just social sites. No shirts no shoes no service kinda deal. But yeah, registering your computer may sound insane
right now, but consider the people who voiced the same argument for guns, a no brainer in today's standards. Trolling is just a pitiful little example of how the Internet is being used maliciously. Identity fraud, illegal downloads, terrorist recruitment sites: billions if not trillions of dollars at stake here. The Internet is a world all it's own, and it's the wild west out here ATM.
I apologize for the shitty quote... Can't figure out this iPad...
Well that's just it, Asperger's now gets mixed in with the plain socially awkward people nowadays.vrbtny said:
This is ridiculous. The guy is a massive dick, sure, but getting jail time for being a dick? No. Stupid. Next time I call my friend a dick maybe I should just hand myself over to the cops.
Also, half the users of Sickipedia should start worrying, because they could see themselves getting arrested, amount of dead celebrity jokes that pop up on there.
Also, half the users of Sickipedia should start worrying, because they could see themselves getting arrested, amount of dead celebrity jokes that pop up on there.
It's funny that you said I'm an idiot that needs to learn what I'm talking about before I argue it.bloodmage2 said:
Oh kettle... were you aware that you're black?
Go back and read all my other comments. You might note that I said the guy getting jail time is bullshit. I'm not FOR him going to jail.
My freedom of speech comments have been simply to inform people that you can't hide behind it.
That's not what that means. What it means is that he committed those three other cases, and he is confessing to them and asking for the magistrates to take them into account in addition to the one he was arrested for. He will have been advised to do this so that he isn't just re-arrested for one of the other three cases after he comes out of jail.Midnight Crossroads said:
oh great, and here comes hundreds to the trolls cause...ha
granted freedom of speech and all that, this is still a ridiculously low move, if anything he should've spent a week tops, just to give him a good scare and knock him down a few pegs.
*peers closer*
ha wait this was in the UK and not the US?
does no one else see the sweet irony in this?
let me laugh a bit harder
still, that was just a tad bit extreme, even if i would have given him a good beating like he deserves.
granted freedom of speech and all that, this is still a ridiculously low move, if anything he should've spent a week tops, just to give him a good scare and knock him down a few pegs.
*peers closer*
ha wait this was in the UK and not the US?
does no one else see the sweet irony in this?
let me laugh a bit harder
still, that was just a tad bit extreme, even if i would have given him a good beating like he deserves.
So wait, this guy says something that is pretty sick but there are people who make a living denying shit like the holocaust ever happened. I get it it was horrible but i think insulting the dead and the bereaved isn't jail worthy. And now his probably already small work prospect is taking a huge hit. I know some people with aspergers and this isn't the kind of thing i'd see them doing, I am no expert but that isn't an excuse. But does this mean if someone comes out as gay on facebook and I say something in attempt to be funny which turns out offensive, I should be ARRESTED.
If any of you think he deserved what he got, because it sets an 'example' or whatever bullshit justification you have. you are just as misguided and ignorant as this A**hole. feel free to rage your hearts out but if jokes (even those in 'bad taste') are going to mean prison sentences we should start killing our stand-up comedians now, those m*therf*ckers do it all the time.
If any of you think he deserved what he got, because it sets an 'example' or whatever bullshit justification you have. you are just as misguided and ignorant as this A**hole. feel free to rage your hearts out but if jokes (even those in 'bad taste') are going to mean prison sentences we should start killing our stand-up comedians now, those m*therf*ckers do it all the time.
I agree with this, especially as a person with aspergers. Being a dick is not grounds for going to prison and trying to use asperger's syndrome as a defense when people with aspergers know what he did was a dick move is wrong.WilliamRLBaker said:
UK has no codified constitution. Our freedom of speech is not entrenched. Also, the UK actually blocked WBC from entering the country at one point.Nomatophobe said:
Anyway, back to the main thing here:
If you bully someone at school, you get punished and eventually excluded if it doesn't stop, if you harass/bully someone at work, you get stern words and eventually sacked. If you bully/harass someone on the internet, nothing really happens. Agree, the punishment was pretty harsh, but there needs to be something to deter this kind of bullying.
Furthermore, I would deem his actions to be beyond the realm of offence, and touching into the grounds of persecution. Maybe that's a little extreme, but he did persist in his harassment/bullying/mockery/torment/harmless fun (delete as appropriate to your own opinion or add your own) over a period of time.
Pretty sure he wasn't convicted under the controversial "being a dick" law. You guys don't seem to understand that the law doesn't work that way. The courts can't just manufacture a reason to give someone a charge. He was tried and convicted according to existing criminal code in the UK.razer17 said:
I mean, is it freaking everyone out to learn that there are actual existing legal consequences for being a huge asshole? This isn't the thought police. It's just common sense.
/chan speak on
>Uses real Facebook account to troll
>Uses real YouTube accountt to troll
>Tries to use Aspergers as an excuse for being an ass.
>Deserves it for being an idiot and not knowing how to troll.
/chan speak off
But seriosly that's pretty messed up, I mean trolling is one thing, but that was borderline harrasment.
>Uses real Facebook account to troll
>Uses real YouTube accountt to troll
>Tries to use Aspergers as an excuse for being an ass.
>Deserves it for being an idiot and not knowing how to troll.
/chan speak off
But seriosly that's pretty messed up, I mean trolling is one thing, but that was borderline harrasment.
I hope people are realising he did this to the families of four different people. He didn't just make one nasty comment and trololol away, he actively searched out a way to publicly insult these people more than once. I don't think that's saying a few nasty things, he was obsessively trying to bring people down over a touchy subject.
Some people are way too sensitive, and that sounds funny as hell to the troll in me. Imagine if they jailed every troll. How fast would they be released due to overcrowding? less than 5 minutes is my bet.
You realize what a preposterous, exaggerated stretch that is, right? Calling someone "Fatty" or "Four-eyes" is just a little different then laughing at, and making fun of, someone's dead child in front of them.The_root_of_all_evil said:
I also think 4 months is a bit steep, but the day that I feel sorry for this douche is the day that pigs sprout wings and fly. Coincidentally, that is also the day where I will have enough money to shop at Whole Foods regularly. Anyway, I would've preferred a hefty fine. And without a job, a huge fine would've been hilarious.
Those of us who actually use the English language maturely and know when the best time to throw the word 'fuck' into a sentence know all too well that words can sometimes be just as harmful as a fist to the face (maybe not in the traditional sense of a bloody nose but harm will still be done).bloodmage2 said:
Now I'm going to put a small amount of confidence in you that you're over the mental age of ten (or are at least out of the stage in life where the main thing you use your head for is headbutting people) when I assume that you understand that just because you aren't offended or upset by something doesn't mean that everyone should be fine with it.
I'm not offended or upset by people who ask if we can finally shut the Hell up about 9/11 (I understand where they're coming from most of the time) but I understand why that would be distressing and painful for someone who lost a child or a parent or a spouse to the events on that day (and this is coming from someone with the same condition this guy is using as a shield for this behavior).
If you're offended or hurt by me talking down to you like a child and implying that you have the emotional intelligence of a pile of sand then good, then you understand where I'm coming from when I disagree with you.
Trust me, I understand what I'm argueing (and very well at that) and the cases you're citing there as reasons you think count as 'offended' aren't even anywhere close to what happened to result in the arrest in the OP. I think Pop music sucks too but I wouldn't call for people like Justin Beiber to be arrested, however, someone taking the time to follow me (online or off) and make light of the fact that a close friend or family member had been killed (and in a somewhat horrible way) would be far, far removed from being a laughing matter (and odds are on that more than a few punches would be aimed in their direction, and I try to avoid violence wherever possible).
This isn't a case of arresting people because 'oh noes! they hurt my feelings by disagreeing with me!' as much as it's 'this bastard has been stalking my family and rubbing it in our faces that our daughter died recently because he finds it funny'.
If you have even the slightest ability to tell right from wrong you'd see how big a difference that makes.