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SoliterDan said:
Yes. Yes it does. Right now, too many shows and western forums are literally hijacked by SJW's and anti-SJW's and all I want is to be left alone, doing my thing. Maybe to you it's not that bad, but as of now, I'm literally surrounded by constant demagogues, shouting stuff that is equally correct and no matter where I go, there's always either a thread where two sides break pikes on each other (like this one) or another thing I liked to watch gets on the fem-hype train, literally saying "as a feminist and a woman and and actor" and such. There's no end to this!

That and usually, when people start to hype up the actor being X, instead of actors pedigree, it rarely means that the result will be in any way good (looking at you, Fembusters).
Firstly...


Aside from that: TV's art, right? It reflects our society, current social mores, etc? Should politics be left out of what we create? If not, then I suppose 'deal with it' would be glib advice. If some people think it's great to have a female Doctor - or a Bond, or a decent superhero film, etc - then so what?

As for being "left alone": I've no idea of your own politics but that's largely been the rallying cry of the anti's over the past few years, which translates to 'I don't want things to change and I don't want to have to think about the culture I'm consuming/perpetuating'.

Now I'm scurrying back into my hole, writing game design documents. At least orcs don't talk about their female representation all the time.
True. The creation will simply reflect its creator - very often in ways they can't perceive.
 

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trunkage said:
rosac said:
I actually liked Capaldi when the writing let him have his moments. Serious gravitas added to the role after Smith. Except the writing was 90% wank because of Clara. Fucking. Oswald.

New doctor is less important to me than new writing team, I hope they do use stuff about her sex in some of the episodes (like they do with Bill/Martha and racial tensions at times) but it doesn't become ridiculous. She is still "The Doctor" after all.
Sometimes I think people forgot that Rose existed. All Doctor-Human romances suck. I can understand not liking Clara, but Rose was worse. (I actually think Amy was pretty bad too... Screw it. Donna was the only good one.)

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At least Rose had a character. It was a character that deserved to be pushed out of the TARDIS into a black hole, but it was a character. Clara was just sort of there.
 

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Darth Rosenberg said:
Does "social justice bullshit" actually translate as 'politics or social issues that I don't agree with/care about'? That's typically what it seems to mean.
Yes. Yes it does. Right now, too many shows and western forums are literally hijacked by SJW's and anti-SJW's and all I want is to be left alone, doing my thing. Maybe to you it's not that bad, but as of now, I'm literally surrounded by constant demagogues, shouting stuff that is equally correct and no matter where I go, there's always either a thread where two sides break pikes on each other (like this one) or another thing I liked to watch gets on the fem-hype train, literally saying "as a feminist and a woman and and actor" and such. There's no end to this!

That and usually, when people start to hype up the actor being X, instead of actors pedigree, it rarely means that the result will be in any way good (looking at you, Fembusters).

And, yea, that's why I rarely post here - I've spoken my opinion. Now I'm scurrying back into my hole, writing game design documents. At least orcs don't talk about their female representation all the time.
Maybe you need to get away from the internet for a few days. Or just threads and forums for a few days. I get it. Both sides can be arseholes and are just looking for some sort of win. A cheap one to rub in the faces of the enemy. Petty, I know.
 

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altnameJag said:
McMarbles said:
Even The Doctor can't save us from the Spammermen.
Yeah, that's a Torchwood episode.

God help us all.
I believe McMarbles was referring to the Seventh Doctor serial Delta and the Bannermen, a story that showed you just what it would be like to witness a Nazi invasion of southern Wales while on acid.
 

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09philj said:
altnameJag said:
McMarbles said:
Even The Doctor can't save us from the Spammermen.
Yeah, that's a Torchwood episode.

God help us all.
I believe McMarbles was referring to the Seventh Doctor serial Delta and the Bannermen, a story that showed you just what it would be like to witness a Nazi invasion of southern Wales while on acid.
Man, old Who won't even let me make a "Torchwood is depressing" joke.
 

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I've never watched Doctor Who? and have no interest in the show. Having said that it would be great if they just straight up made her into Rick from Rick and Morty.
 

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Doctor Who has been terrible for awhile now but as always when a new Doctor is added I will give it a few episodes to see if I like it.
 

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I don't watch Doctor Who, but it has been truly delightful getting to watch grown men get butthurt over a fictional shapeshifting alien being a woman.
 

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Here's an interesting article on the topic that I happened to come across:

http://archive.fo/4mYgw

Basically, Steven Moffat correctly notes that there in fact is no major "backlash" against casting a woman as Doctor Who and advises the clickbait media to "shut the hell up" already about that canard, instead of trying to conjure one up to bravely combat. Clickbait media then portrays that as "harsh words" against the fictional backlash.

Oh, and Chris Hardwick once again makes a bid for his name to become a recognized expression in Cockney rhyming slang, to the same disingenuous tune.
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
I'm gonna make a sexist argument for why this is a good thing and why no one should *****: It's everything you love about the Doctor only now you can fuck the Doctor and have it not be gay.
Looking at it from the 'fappable' angle. That's ok, I can dig it.

MrCalavera said:
And, yes, i'm one of those Elba for Bond dudes.
Meh, why not? I think he'd make a good Bond too. He's got the looks and charisma.