Iranian Nuclear Program Rocked Hard By AC/DC Virus

[JWAN]

They probably had to stone everyone to death that was in earshot for being corrupted by the infidels.
I would just like to remind everyone that Iran is one of those countries that stone gay people to death. Not the kinda country that should have a nuclear powered everything.

Yes I have been to Iran, and I did get to experience the police state at its finest. It was a great time.

 

[JWAN]

I admit, when I first saw the title of this thread I was hoping it went down more like this.

Good one lol. Im sure someone got fired over this... unfortunately they probably ended up in a roadside ditch.

 

[Ashannon Blackthorn]

...Then the AC/DC will be playing from the cockpits of Apache's and F-15's, where it can actually be enjoyed. I look forward to the gunsight video footage.

Charming. It's just as well that the forum rules discourage us from making personal remarks.

We should be actively engaged in assisting other countries to develop their nuclear energy plants that way they gain access to the knowledge and wisdom we've gained over the years and they end up with a much more safe and stable system.

That's a good idea, but not for the reasons you provide. Iran is probably capable of stable, safe power plants, if it weren't for the US continually sending them faulty components or saboteurs. No, the reason why it would be good for the US to assist other countries in adopting nuclear power, is that it gains more influence in how those countries should use it. So far, America's tactic has been to continuously threaten Iran over teh construction of nuclear weapons, which essentially incentivises the Iranians to make nuclear weapons (what better way to hold off a threatened US assault?). If America facilitated Iran's power program, providing experts, materials and raw fuel, Iran ends up indebted to the US, and more likely to listen to the super power's demands.

Small point. Iran is run by Islamic fundamentalists of a extremely nasty bent. They've been repressing and murdering their on population for decades now, fund terrorism overseas and do all kinds of interesting skullduggery. Do you honestly think if the rest of the world just said "hey ya go, all the nuclear know how you could ever want." They'll just have a change of heart and stop all the nasty stuff they've been doing? Or would they get even nastier knwoing that they have nuclear weapons to fall back on if things get to bad?

 

[JWAN]

...Then the AC/DC will be playing from the cockpits of Apache's and F-15's, where it can actually be enjoyed. I look forward to the gunsight video footage.

Charming. It's just as well that the forum rules discourage us from making personal remarks.

We should be actively engaged in assisting other countries to develop their nuclear energy plants that way they gain access to the knowledge and wisdom we've gained over the years and they end up with a much more safe and stable system.

That's a good idea, but not for the reasons you provide. Iran is probably capable of stable, safe power plants, if it weren't for the US continually sending them faulty components or saboteurs. No, the reason why it would be good for the US to assist other countries in adopting nuclear power, is that it gains more influence in how those countries should use it. So far, America's tactic has been to continuously threaten Iran over teh construction of nuclear weapons, which essentially incentivises the Iranians to make nuclear weapons (what better way to hold off a threatened US assault?). If America facilitated Iran's power program, providing experts, materials and raw fuel, Iran ends up indebted to the US, and more likely to listen to the super power's demands.

I would like to point out that Iran has called the US and Israel the two devils and they have their little spokes-puppet threaten us with a nuclear attack. So instead of another goddamned war a computer virus playing ACDC sounds good to me.
I would also like to point out that only 3 countries in the middle east don't actively try to seek out and stone homosexuals to death and none of those countries is Iran.

 

[JWAN]

If we keep trying to prevent other countries from gaining nuclear energy, or even worse actively sabotaging their attempts, this can only end in another Chernobyl/Fukashima-type scenario which is bad for everyone on the planet.

We should be actively engaged in assisting other countries to develop their nuclear energy plants that way they gain access to the knowledge and wisdom we've gained over the years and they end up with a much more safe and stable system.

Good point. Would work if the Iranian regime wasn't a crackpot Islamic fundamentalist nation... Remember this is a country whos leaders have stated repeatedly, they wish to wipe Isreal off the map, think that Islam is the only true religion and should be spread worldwide.

They are not nice people. The average Iranian isn't the issue... the their army, theocracy and poloitician

...Then the AC/DC will be playing from the cockpits of Apache's and F-15's, where it can actually be enjoyed. I look forward to the gunsight video footage.

Charming. It's just as well that the forum rules discourage us from making personal remarks.

We should be actively engaged in assisting other countries to develop their nuclear energy plants that way they gain access to the knowledge and wisdom we've gained over the years and they end up with a much more safe and stable system.

That's a good idea, but not for the reasons you provide. Iran is probably capable of stable, safe power plants, if it weren't for the US continually sending them faulty components or saboteurs. No, the reason why it would be good for the US to assist other countries in adopting nuclear power, is that it gains more influence in how those countries should use it. So far, America's tactic has been to continuously threaten Iran over teh construction of nuclear weapons, which essentially incentivises the Iranians to make nuclear weapons (what better way to hold off a threatened US assault?). If America facilitated Iran's power program, providing experts, materials and raw fuel, Iran ends up indebted to the US, and more likely to listen to the super power's demands.

Small point. Iran is run by Islamic fundamentalists of a extremely nasty bent. They've been repressing and murdering their on population for decades now, fund terrorism overseas and do all kinds of interesting skullduggery. Do you honestly think if the rest of the world just said "hey ya go, all the nuclear know how you could ever want." They'll just have a change of heart and stop all the nasty stuff they've been doing? Or would they get even nastier knwoing that they have nuclear weapons to fall back on if things get to bad?

^ Ive been there and I can back your statements 100%. The people are nice, the police state (the people who believe in stoning people to death for being homosexuals) sucks.

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Hilarious. In fact, I'd even call it a little Iranic.

Ba-dum-tish.

 

[Michael826]

So. Many. Puns.

They should get used to it, because Rock N Roll Ain't Noise Pollution. Hell, if anything, they're Givin' the Dog a Bone.

 

[Kuala BangoDango]

Small point. Iran is run by Islamic fundamentalists of a extremely nasty bent. They've been repressing and murdering their on population for decades now, fund terrorism overseas and do all kinds of interesting skullduggery. Do you honestly think if the rest of the world just said "hey ya go, all the nuclear know how you could ever want." They'll just have a change of heart and stop all the nasty stuff they've been doing? Or would they get even nastier knwoing that they have nuclear weapons to fall back on if things get to bad?

Just replace the word "Islamic" with "Christian" and you could say nearly the same thing about the U.S. (except we haven't gotten to the point of massacring our own citizens yet...just the citizens of other countries).

Besides, I'm not talking about weapons. I'm talking about nuclear reactors for energy. A reactor doesn't suddenly become a weapon just because a dictator is in charge.

 

[FalloutJack]

Spoiler

Trying to harness nuclear power is not a declaration of war.

I just want to spotlight this message right here. It is a sane thought in a sea of...well...naught for sanity. And I know sanity on the internet is like running around naked in a Deathclaw pit, but still... This is about energy. They're going to pursue it whether you like it or not. And if it ends up about being bombs, big deal! They just want to stay in the game, like everyone else who has the bomb.

 

[Gennadios]

Well, if I were an Iranian scientist, I'd much rather be woken up to max volume Thunderstruck in the middle of the night than be assassinated by Mossad. These guys have it easy.

Captcha: gadzooks

 

[JSF01]

Small point. Iran is run by Islamic fundamentalists of a extremely nasty bent. They've been repressing and murdering their on population for decades now, fund terrorism overseas and do all kinds of interesting skullduggery. Do you honestly think if the rest of the world just said "hey ya go, all the nuclear know how you could ever want." They'll just have a change of heart and stop all the nasty stuff they've been doing? Or would they get even nastier knwoing that they have nuclear weapons to fall back on if things get to bad?

Just replace the word "Islamic" with "Christian" and you could say nearly the same thing about the U.S. (except we haven't gotten to the point of massacring our own citizens yet...just the citizens of other countries).

Besides, I'm not talking about weapons. I'm talking about nuclear reactors for energy. A reactor doesn't suddenly become a weapon just because a dictator is in charge.

You do know that a by-product of the nuclear reactors that they are trying/have to build can be used to make nuclear weapons; on top of that they have on multiple occasions shown they want to build nuclear weapons. Once you have the nuclear material it is very simple to build a nuclear weapon. There is no good reason for to use nuclear energy. They are an oil rich country, so they already to have easy access to a safe energy source. If they want a clean energy alternative to oil, solar is a great alternative considering they are a desert country.

 

[Ashannon Blackthorn]

Small point. Iran is run by Islamic fundamentalists of a extremely nasty bent. They've been repressing and murdering their on population for decades now, fund terrorism overseas and do all kinds of interesting skullduggery. Do you honestly think if the rest of the world just said "hey ya go, all the nuclear know how you could ever want." They'll just have a change of heart and stop all the nasty stuff they've been doing? Or would they get even nastier knwoing that they have nuclear weapons to fall back on if things get to bad?

Just replace the word "Islamic" with "Christian" and you could say nearly the same thing about the U.S. (except we haven't gotten to the point of massacring our own citizens yet...just the citizens of other countries).

Besides, I'm not talking about weapons. I'm talking about nuclear reactors for energy. A reactor doesn't suddenly become a weapon just because a dictator is in charge.

Lot more likely to under a dictator... and I don't even wanna think about how religion could factor into this. People can do some incredibly crazy things when gripped with fanaticism.

 

[Rule Britannia]

I saw this on Ultimate Guitar a couple of days ago (not written as well though).

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When i saw this I laughed but it's disturbing that it's even speculated thast the CIA were involved with this, whether they were or not.

 

[Somebloke]

Fun until the cyberjacking is turned your way? :7

 

[Albino Boo]

...Then the AC/DC will be playing from the cockpits of Apache's and F-15's, where it can actually be enjoyed. I look forward to the gunsight video footage.

Charming. It's just as well that the forum rules discourage us from making personal remarks.

We should be actively engaged in assisting other countries to develop their nuclear energy plants that way they gain access to the knowledge and wisdom we've gained over the years and they end up with a much more safe and stable system.

That's a good idea, but not for the reasons you provide. Iran is probably capable of stable, safe power plants, if it weren't for the US continually sending them faulty components or saboteurs. No, the reason why it would be good for the US to assist other countries in adopting nuclear power, is that it gains more influence in how those countries should use it. So far, America's tactic has been to continuously threaten Iran over teh construction of nuclear weapons, which essentially incentivises the Iranians to make nuclear weapons (what better way to hold off a threatened US assault?). If America facilitated Iran's power program, providing experts, materials and raw fuel, Iran ends up indebted to the US, and more likely to listen to the super power's demands.

Small but rather important point YOU DON'T NEED ENRICHED URANIUM TO RUN A NUCLEAR REACTOR. Even with using old soviet technology you there are designs available that don't use enriched uranium. Designs that don't use enriched uranium are safer and cheaper than their enriched counter parts. The only reason the chose to the design that they did so they could get cover for their nuclear weapons program

Kuala BangoDango the Iranians have been offered western pwr designs not just by the American but by the French and the Germans as long a go as Bill Clinton's time in office. They have also been offered deals were the enrichment takes place in 3rd country to ensure that it never reaches weapons grade. All these deals have been rejected.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

They probably had to stone everyone to death that was in earshot for being corrupted by the infidels.
I would just like to remind everyone that Iran is one of those countries that stone gay people to death. Not the kinda country that should have a nuclear powered everything.

Yes I have been to Iran, and I did get to experience the police state at its finest. It was a great time.

Not to say that I sympathise with the Iranian regime, because I don't, but I think we're coming at this from all the wrong angles.

Firstly, why do Iran's social issues matter in the context of whether or not they should be allowed Nuclear power? Are they suddenly going to start stoning gay people with radioactive stones? I doubt it.

Secondly, look at any industrial revolution of any country in the world, and you will see that is is technological advancement that eventually fuels social advancement coming in behind it. Who's to say that it's not us, restricting Iran's own ability to improve itself technologically, that's keeping a large amount of their society in the dark ages when it comes to attitudes towards other things? Western countries have hardly the best track record throughout history when it comes to social equality and fairness. However, as technology made our lives easier, we gradually became more open and accepting of our fellow man. The same thing could happen in Iran, but only if we allow it to happen.

Thirdly, why is it that the nation who has set itself up as the moral authority on who in this world does or doesn't 'deserve' the capacity to make nuclear weapons, is so far the only country on Earth to have actually used nuclear weapons in anger. Am I the only one who sees the aching hypocrisy of such a claim? America wipes out two Japanese cities, most of the casualties being civilians, and then turns around to everyone else and tries to claim that America is the only one responsible enough to control such power... what the fuck?! Would I like the idea of the current regime in Iran having a nuclear weapon? No (I think the whole world should be pushing for fewer nukes, not more). However, at this point I'd rather that than let this disgraceful and blatant double-standard continue.

Finally, even if Iran does start building nuclear weapons off the back of a nuclear power program (which is all we've been able to prove that they want in all this time btw), then what do you think the chances are that they will actually use them aggressively? The regime is evil, but it's not stupid. They know that if they attacked anyone, especially Israel, then it would be seen as an act of war on the entire western world, and there's no way they could build enough nukes to match that combined force. If they went to war, even with nuclear arms, they would get slaughtered and they know it, so I highly doubt that they're going to. They will use nuclear weapons for what everyone else uses them for, a deterrent, a defensive measure in case anyone wants to attack them, and (putting aside my own distaste for nuclear weapons in general and speaking purely in the interests of fairness) I don't see what's so horrifying about that possibility.

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

Should have been a rickroll.

that would be gold

 

[RicoADF]

Iran has done pretty much everything but actually declare war. So what better way to get them to attack than to drive them insane with AC/DC. Once they make a move, then public support will be available for a war. Then the AC/DC will be playing from the cockpits of Apache's and F-15's, where it can actually be enjoyed. I look forward to the gunsight video footage.

Yes, Iran wants and has basically declared war on the US.... thats it... when it's US aircraft flying into Iranian airspace trying to bait them into crossing over the boarder. When its US UAVs flying into their airspace (technically the US has declared war on Iran from an international law's point of view). But no, lets say its Iran because the US can't be in the wrong, oh no thats not possible....

*looks at sarcasm detector* wow that things gone off the chart XD

CAPTCHA: "signal your turns".... umm, charge!?

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This man (and the others saying the same thing) has hit the nail on the head, and ended this thread.

 

[maninahat]

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Small point. Iran is run by Islamic fundamentalists of a extremely nasty bent. They've been repressing and murdering their on population for decades now, fund terrorism overseas and do all kinds of interesting skullduggery. Do you honestly think if the rest of the world just said "hey ya go, all the nuclear know how you could ever want." They'll just have a change of heart and stop all the nasty stuff they've been doing? Or would they get even nastier knwoing that they have nuclear weapons to fall back on if things get to bad?

I've been receiving a lot of these "small points" about my post.

Iran is a fundamentalist theocracy, regardless of what the US does. It will also have a nuclear program, with or without the US's help. Helping a country with its nuclear ambitions won't necessarily change its outlook, but it does incentivise complacency and cooperation. If a country becomes dependant on another for resources, that country has a good reason to avoid conflict with its benefactor. One of the reasons for why the major first world and developing nations don't go to war with each other anymore, is because they have become so economically reliant upon one another. I think getting Iran into globalism would serve as major factor in calming it down.

Of course, you can't do that with multiple embargoes and sabotage. Crippling Iran's economy might force Iran into cooperating, but it also carries a much bigger risk of simply enforcing the anti-western sentiment, and encouraging them to take military action. Iran is not suicidal; it knows it can't use nukes without being annihilated. But if it feels like it has no other choice, and that Israel and America are about to invade anyway...