Iron man 3 and lava super soldiers

[Bluesclues]

I thought their whole deal was they could regenerate any injury, but each time they did they became more and more unstable till the regeneration overloaded. The more sever the injury and the less willpower they had the faster that happened. It still leaves their death times arbitrary but for something like that it is somewhat expected.

That was their whole deal. Apparently half the people in this thread missed that memo.

Also, I thought it was pretty well known that The Mandarin in this movie was a fake; it wasn't supposed to be the real Mandarin, hence no magic rings.

 

[RedDeadFred]

That movie was so forgettable I actually forgot about the lava soldiers. Well now that I remember... Sigh oh boy that as stupid. I don't see how IM3 is supposed to be the best of the 3 movies (no I don't think it's a trilogy).

I had too. The only thing I could remember about the movie was how dumb the ending was (not the whole Mandarin thing, just the whole final fight).

The only good part of the movie was his banter with the kid. Easily the worst of the three IMO and probably the worst out of all of the Avenger movies.

 

[Bluesclues]

That movie was so forgettable I actually forgot about the lava soldiers. Well now that I remember... Sigh oh boy that as stupid. I don't see how IM3 is supposed to be the best of the 3 movies (no I don't think it's a trilogy).

I had too. The only thing I could remember about the movie was how dumb the ending was (not the whole Mandarin thing, just the whole final fight).

The only good part of the movie was his banter with the kid. Easily the worst of the three IMO and probably the worst out of all of the Avenger movies.

Personally, I found Thor and Cpt. America to be much more guilty of being forgettable than IM3, as all that I can remember from the former are Thor and the supporting cast (can't even remember the plot), and from the latter, Chris Evans and the tesserract. 3 might be the weakest of the Iron Man trilogy (again, my personal opinion), but I wouldn't say it's the worst of the Avengers movies. Pretty sure that honor goes to the first Hulk movie, if anything.

Edit: First Hulk movie of the new series of superhero movies, I mean.

 

[Glongpre]

Also, I thought it was pretty well known that The Mandarin in this movie was a fake; it wasn't supposed to be the real Mandarin, hence no magic rings.

Kingsley is a fake but Guy is the mandarin, he says so at the end. He also had two dragon tattoos on his shoulders.

Edit:
Aldrich Killian: No more false faces... You wanted the Mandarin? You're looking right at him! It was always me, Tony, right from the start! I AM THE MANDARIN! -from imdb

 

[Upbeat Zombie]

Yeah for me Iron man 3 was easily the weakest in the trilogy. It was mostly because of the Lava Super Soldiers. They were inconsistent and they made the iron man suits look like nothing. Especially since he could fight gods in those suits but these generic bad guys tear them apart.

 

[Asita]

I had a bigger problem with Tony building 40+ suits, but the lava people going through them like tissue paper :/

Really, if his bodyguard could survive a close meltdown explosion from one of them, why are the IRON SUITS so damn useless?

Really? Tony's a gearhead that's constantly looking for ways to improve upon his design, especially when he notices a design flaw ("What did you do about the icing problem?"), and many of the armors looked to be designed with different specialties in mind (playing to some extent off of the fact that he'd become dependent on them to the point of freaking out without them). Also it kinda has precedence...

 

[PsychicTaco115]

Really? Tony's a gearhead that's constantly looking for ways to improve upon his design, especially when he notices a design flaw ("What did you do about the icing problem?"), and many of the armors looked to be designed with different specialties in mind (playing to some extent off of the fact that he'd become dependent on them to the point of freaking out without them). Also it kinda has precedence...

I apologize, I meant it was ridiculous how the lava people were destroying ALL the suits, like they were made of cardboard

I like the suits, I swear! D:

 

[BayouStalker]

The extremis story for it was absurdly weak, especially since Guy was an absolutely forgettable villain, who ended up being one of the silliest "Imma be a super villain because people picked on me!" I've seen in a while. If only he had the super fire things it would be one thing, but he was doing pretty much everything that we had seen the other ones do throughout the movie. Robert was great as Tony, but his suits were apparently suffering from the reverse version of Plot Armor.

That being said, Kingsly as Mandarin was absolutely awesome. As both Mandarin and Drunken Out of Work Actor. I was hoping in the credits scene it would either be him sitting in jail showing that it was all a part of a greater scheme for him, or to having him actually recieve one of the real rings.

All and all the did leave it open for the real Mandarin to show up in the future, I was just rip roaring pissed when Guy yelled "I am the Mandarin!" A bunch of people in the audience yelled back at the screen "NO YOU AREN'T!"

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

I liked Ben Kingsley, any scenes where Tony had to improvise and the fact that the movie acknowledges that the events of the Avengers would mess up a man of science like Tony pretty badly.

I disliked:

- The kid. Not as annoying as most movie kids, but still.
- The boring true villain
- The numerous inconsistencies like the durability of the lava super soldiers
- The plain illogical stuff like the bad guys luring the Iron Patriot into a trap and kidnapping him. Seriously, the posterboy for the US military goes dark during a raid on a terrorist organization that has made threats against the president, no one seems to notice, and when he next shows up to play bodyguard without any explanation, no one asks any questions.
- The throwaway stuff like curing Pepper of her lava powers. A single line, problem solved.

And under no circumstances, does he reveal his home address to a terrorist. For a genius, that was a dumb move.

I'm pretty sure the home address for one the most famous people on the planet would be pretty easy to find, especially for a terrorist organization with good resources and connections. If they wanted to, they could've attacked him at any time. It was openly challenging them that was the stupid part.

 

[Bluesclues]

Also, I thought it was pretty well known that The Mandarin in this movie was a fake; it wasn't supposed to be the real Mandarin, hence no magic rings.

Kingsley is a fake but Guy is the mandarin, he says so at the end. He also had two dragon tattoos on his shoulders.

Edit:
Aldrich Killian: No more false faces... You wanted the Mandarin? You're looking right at him! It was always me, Tony, right from the start! I AM THE MANDARIN! -from imdb

The way I understood it, neither Pierce nor Kingsley were actually the Mandarin. I took it as Kingsley being the patsy and Pierce just having invented the character to throw Tony off, without actually being him. I must have misunderstood then.

 

[Zhukov]

If I don't have a problem with a guy who turns into a giant green rage monster whenever he loses his cool because radiation, then I don't see why I'd have a problem with people turning into lava people because injections.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

Well, it is based off a series of comics...

 

[BoredRolePlayer]

Spoilers ahoy!​

I was okay with it. Up until the very end. When the Lava Men were able to rip the suits apart like so much paper mache (or Radditz if you prefer). I found that a bit hard to swallow. Also, I didn't like them taking the shrapnel out of Tony and apparently curing Pepper of Lava Man syndrome. Though, there was no reason to make her a Lava Man... Lava Woman ..? Lava Person. There was no reason to make Pepper a Lava Person in the first place.

Those were my only real problems with the movie. Beyond that, it was pretty damn good. Tony fighting with just a gauntlet and a boot was awesome. The subplot with the kid was serviceable. The overall plot was pretty good, for what it was. So, yeah, I don't hate the movie. Just have a few nitpicks.

I do prefer that and you are awesome for that comment

 

[Brian Tams]

My main beef wasn't lava super soldiers, but rather they were only lava super soldiers. Guy's explanation of how that serum work is that there's some unused portion of the brain, and that the serum basically acted like slotting in a harddrive with a program attached; you could mold your brain/genetic code (its a little unclear at this part) to do anything (at least, this was my understanding).

When I first heard that, I thought "Sweet. So we'll be seeing a lot of varying baddies, right?" But then were all the same! What the eff, writers? How can you make such a cool idea and then be too lazy to do anything but the generic with it? I mean, if you really wanted to make Guy like the Mandering (haHA! Accidental humor FTW), why not have him inject ten different serums into his body that gave him ten different basic powers? Isn't this just a biological version of the rings?

 

[debtcollector]

Yeah I'm with most everyone else here. How did any of the Lava Men actually die again? Other than that one plot device who self-destructed I mean. Because I think I recall Guy getting punched in the face a lot until he stopped regenerating from it, which is pretty shoddy writing.

What bugged me the most was that all the pieces were there for a really good movie. Tony Macgyver-killing a bunch of guys was incredible, Tony fighting with only scraps of armor was entertaining, Tony dealing with PTSD and not being a smug, insufferable cock all the time was refreshing...And then they blow it by doing the villain bait-and-switch (which I would have been okay with if they had a more interesting secret mastermind), pointless characters (remember that girl Tony was sleeping with at the movie's start? Neither do I), overwrought intrigue, inconsistent fake science rules, and never dealing with Tony's PTSD beyond "big things went down, I nearly died now I'm scaaaaaaared" (couldn't he have made some mention of how terrifying it is to think you know how the universe works and then have it ripped out from under you? I mean he was a scientist, and then he kicked around with gods and aliens and had a glimpse of the terrifying beyond and all he's worried about is how he nearly died. Hell, he had a closer brush with death in the first half hour of the first movie.)

 

[Some_weirdGuy]

I kinda hope they're going to use the mandarin and power rings in an avengers 2 or 3.

Have a bunch of bad guys return, each given a magical artifacty things like loki's gem stick thing in the first avengers.
The mandarin gets the rings and magical armour as his thing, making him much more like the madarin I've seen in the cartoon series.

(remember that girl Tony was sleeping with at the movie's start? Neither do I),

... and never dealing with Tony's PTSD beyond "big things went down, I nearly died now I'm scaaaaaaared" (couldn't he have made some mention of how terrifying it is to think you know how the universe works and then have it ripped out from under you? I mean he was a scientist, and then he kicked around with gods and aliens and had a glimpse of the terrifying beyond and all he's worried about is how he nearly died. Hell, he had a closer brush with death in the first half hour of the first movie.)

I'm assuming you know that girl was the same one then then showed up at his house later in the movie? ((just checking))

and perhaps you need to give the movie a revisit if nearly dying is what you think tony was freaking out over, as i think you have misunderstood a fairly central element of the narrative. (as you yourself even stated, he brushes with death nearly all the time)

[[would go into more detail but for some reason i'm trying not to be too spoilery]]

 

[crimson sickle2]

Yeah, the Extremis stuff wasn't very well thought out. How it changed the subject's personalities wasn't ever well defined especially. I'm in the camp where they should've had Mandarin as the actual big bad, not some lava dude with a petty revenge scheme.

 

[twistedmic]

Because Tony built the last 40 iron suits one after another, with zero prototyping or testing, without sleeping, and suffering from PTSD (I not sure of the timeline, but it sounds like it's been a year tops since the Avengers, so he built 40 suits in a year, that's almost 1 a week)

The suits were horribly because he built them horribly

Its the same reason the Mark 43 (or whatever the most recent one was) always feel apart, and had barely any weapons. It was a proof of concept for the AI piecemeal suit up (as opposed to requiring him to have it taken off/put on by seperate machines)

Another hint that Tony was building the suits at an insane pace was when Pepper came in and saw the newest suit (Mk 42) she asked Tony if that was the Mk 8 or Mk 9 (can't remember which it was), meaning that she had no idea Tony had built 25+ suits