*IRONMAN 3 SPOILER* What did you think about the movie twist and use of character plot in IronMan3?

[Kolby Jack]

I thought it was pretty great. I didn't see it coming, that's for sure. Iron Man's villains have never really been silver-age-y, so the idea of this over the top, flamboyant villain didn't really fit. To have it all be a ruse was good, and the actual villain was interesting, if not very original. I also had a huge smile on my face when ALL of the Iron man suits showed up. And Pepper being the one to actually finish off the bad guy? Nice.

The part of the movie I liked the most though was the shrapnel finally being removed. From shortly after he got it up until now, the shrapnel hasn't meant much. It was just some plot device to justify having the generator in his chest. Now though, it comes to light that it was Tony's "hair shirt" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_shirt] the whole time. He could have had it removed as soon as he got back to America, but he deliberately kept it there as a reminder to be a better person and not forget the lives his weapons have ruined. At the end of this movie, he finally had them removed, meaning he realized he no longer needed his "hair shirt" because he had truly become a better person (hence his "cocoon and butterfly" metaphor). That was my biggest takeaway from the whole film, and it was a really fantastic ending to the Iron Man series.

Also, the stinger that shows he was narrating the whole thing to Bruce Banner? Nice. Hopefully might mean more Hulk movies with Mark Ruffalo in the future, even though the current line-up doesn't show any.

 

[Gatx]

I thought it was clever, really enjoyed it. I was never too keen on seeing the Mandarin on the big screen, especially since he wasn't going to be played by an Asian actor, but the direction they took it in really made the whole thing make sense.

It also served to sort of explain why the Avengers and SHIELD didn't do anything. It's a terrorist group so the U.S. military is left to deal with it, and even though there was something potentially bigger going on underneath, no one knew about it until the end.

The Mandarin doesn't make any sense in the film.

Why would you create a terror icon that has links to middle eastern terrorist groups but dresses in an oriental motif. It's just stupid.

And I can't say that I'm not disappointed that they didn't use him as the big antagonist for the final fight. It'd have been much more entertaining than what we got.

That bastardisation of the Extremis virus was just banal. Why can someone who burns up a little bit cut through the suits like they're made of butter? You're not telling me that those idiots were burning hotter than the plasma weapons he brushed off in the Avengers.

I mean, it looks like Tony's suits suffer from movie ninja syndrome.

The more of them there are, the easier they are to kill/destroy.

Overall, I'm pretty disappointed. The extremis virus represents a very large step in the evolution of Stark's suits. And I understand that they wanted to have more character development than technological development. But to use the extremis plotline and then ignore the only interesting thing about it. Well, it's just silly.

They played it safe by making it a middle eastern terrorist group (in real life I mean) because they don't want to dig up this

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As for Tony's suits it really emphasized that they were just tools that he used, and that he was one who was the real hero. This is probably the first movie in the series where you see him doing more than half an action scene without armor.

 

[ATRAYA]

I didn't even know there was an Iron Man 3...

Still, after stringing together some bits and pieces of the plot, and getting some back-story, since I haven't seen a movie since 2010 (and even then I didn't watch many), I am able to analyze the plot and the "twist" unimpeded by the other flashy garbage. It sounds fairly cliche, as far as I can tell; in fact, there is a name for it: it's called a "red herring". The villain wasn't who you thought it was... big whoop. How about you don't waste my time with false positives, and go a little more in-depth with the motivations and the character development of the ACTUAL antagonist? Well, I guess it technically didn't waste MY time, since I'll never watch it, but you get the point...

Everyone is saying the actor did a great job, though, so props to him. And I'm slightly intrigued by Tony Stark's inner struggles... but then they had to go ahead and make it escape fiction when they had PURE, FERTILIZED PLOT-SOIL to go with interpretive fiction for the end of the trilogy. See, this is why I can't watch movies anymore... :/

 

[Wafflemarine]

Was sad the suits didn't get more attention when the big one came into scene I was thinking damn who called in the Grey Knights?

Also Pepper must be the future Samus. Heck technically they did not fully say whether she was turned back to normal or not so she has regenerative abilities now so she could live for awhile.

The story aside it was very fun to watch Starks comments are really anti hero like. The entire theater at some points were laughing out loud.

 

[2fish]

I thought it was fun it also kind of fit the tone of tony unsure of himself/world and then the bad guy is not the bad guy.

I figure if they really want to make him a real villian have some alines give him some toys and he wants revenge on iron man boom comic book plot done! He can become the real mandarin! That is the joy of comic books they can pull anything out of their ass if the fans yell enough.

 

[ATRAYA]

Everyone is saying the actor did a great job, though, so props to him. And I'm slightly intrigued by Tony Stark's inner struggles... but then they had to go ahead and make it escape fiction when they had PURE, FERTILIZED PLOT-SOIL to go with interpretive fiction for the end of the trilogy. See, this is why I can't watch movies anymore... :/

I think the problem is that you think this is an end of a trilogy, when it was never set up to BE a trilogy.

Technically this is the 5th movie he has had Tony Stark in it, with the 6th to come out in a couple of years, and that not including if he makes any cameos in Thor 2, Captain America 2, Incredible Hulk 2 (if any of those pop out before the next avengers)

Its like watching the first three harry potter movies then being highly annoyed that it didnt all come together at the end of movie 3. Just because a movie has a 3 at the end doesnt mean its the end of a trilogy, that just means its movie 3 sometimes.

Considering that everyone is saying there will be no Iron Man 4, and that he chooses not to be Iron Man at the end, I would say that's a conclusion to a trilogy. If he takes up the mantle of Iron Man again, then that would render the entire ending of the third movie pointless, and all emotional impact moot. They would have to have some pretty SPECTACULAR writing to deny such a wiping of such a large plot point, and there's no way Hollywood can produce spectacular writing these days.

So, yeah, it's the ending of a trilogy.

 

[synobal]

Being an utter slave to the source material of a comic book is a recipe for failure. So is completely disregarding it so it was a careful line to walk but I think they did it very well in Ironman 3.

Also Iron man 4 I want to see Pepper Potts as Rescue.

 

[Ickorus]

The way they were all going on about a 'master' despite them knowing that the supposed master was a fraud makes me wonder whether they aren't double bluffing and the mandarin does in fact exist and they used the actor as cover.

I liked the twist myself, particularly that they used scenes that weren't in the actual movie during the trailer to lead people down a different path but still get them hyped.

 

[JagermanXcell]

I liked it, liked the movie a lot too.
Sure I had to cry in the corner for a few hours knowing I won't see a legitimate Mandarin for YEARS now, but after realizing the huge twist was a cleverly crafted piece of comedic gold... I think I can hold back my inner fanboy.

Another thing, can we please have a Pepper Pots spinoff? Cause that last scene REEEEALLLY made me want more superpowered Pots. >_>

 

[DalekJaas]

No prior knowledge of the Mandarin or AIM before I saw it and I still thought Iron Man 3 sucked.

 

[Yuuki]

Another thing, can we please have a Pepper Pots spinoff? Cause that last scene REEEEALLLY made me want more superpowered Pots. >_>

It won't fit...by the end of the movie Potts was established as a character who dislikes violence and isn't exactly a fan of hi-tech stuff.
I mean if I was her I would've wanted to KEEP the fire-red-regeneration superpower and have the strength of mind to regulate it. But she wanted it cured and Tony did just that...so I get the feeling she just wants to keep leading Stark Industries and stay in a healthy relationship with Tony, that's all

 

[MrMixelPixel]

I didn't care. It existed, it was kind of funny, but in the end the villains were dull in comparison to the interesting and developed hero. So far all the heroes in the Marvel movieverse are really well done; they are the selling point of the movies. I'd just like to see a good villain who isn't Loki from the Avengers.

 

[gim73]

Good twist. I like the fact that the normal Tony Stark monologue is actually his therapy session with Dr. Bruce Banner after the credits roll. Also the fact that he's not in the Iron Man suit for most of the movie, he's just plain Tony with some gadgets against crazy hot enemies with super strength. And it works because it's not his house or his fancy toys, he is Iron Man.

 

[Platypus540]

I thought it was a really clever twist, especially since Killian was never even mentioned in the promo stuff, so I was truly surprised, which is all too rare lately. This might be because I'm not much of a comic guy though; I can imagine the hardcore fans being pretty pissed, even though I liked it.

 

[Meatspinner]

Didn't register as a "twist" with me until later in the movie. Probably because I wasn't that hyped about the Mandarin.
I was more interested in how they'd handle the Extremis/transhumanist bit. I was left dissapointed.

The movie had a lot of different elements it was juggling but it didn't really dig into any of it. To much stuff and too little time.

 

[Rakschas]

I liked the twist, but that took away a lot of potential for things to come. Then again, it revealed not the mandarin to have been the master strategist, but someone else. So i remained hooked, but things played out much more straightforward from then on.

Here is the problem. There is the mandarin, who displays a sense of righteosness and conviction about what he does (and actually does not do), and there is the actuall bad guy, who is simply a very bad dude with a very inconsistent superpower. The first WOULD be a perfect vilain, he has all characteristics of a perfect antagonist and a great deep character. The second is actually more of a plot device for action. I mean he is all like "Woe is me, now you my pain. Also i require all your monies *****", that pretty much sums him up. Not exactly a lot of depth.

Here is a problem i see:
The movie portrays the mandarin as an obscure figure, that is basically tailored to frighten the US American Public, being an alien middle eastern asian entity, something that perfectly symbolizes post 9/11 fear and paranoia. The more perfect he is for that, the less of an actual character he can be and vice versa.

Havent read the comic series, so maybe it can be done. dunno.