Situational Irony [http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/irony/situational.php]Michael_McCloud said:For example: Traffic jam when you're already late: NOT IRONY (looking at you, Alanis Morissette)
Sorry, I'm not quite following you here. What's ironic about a definition of irony?Aardvark said:Situational Irony [http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/irony/situational.php]Michael_McCloud said:For example: Traffic jam when you're already late: NOT IRONY (looking at you, Alanis Morissette)
That's ironic, don'tcha think?
huh, irrrooonnnyRandom argument man said:It's like when your house burn down because of some stress-relief candels...
It is a situation that contradicts one's expectations.
I think what they mean is.. that it's Ironic that none of the lyrics in Alanis Morissette's song Ironic are ironic. Just unfortunate. But a song named Ironic that isn't Ironic.. That's Ironic.Michael_McCloud said:Sorry, I'm not quite following you here. What's ironic about a definition of irony?Aardvark said:Situational Irony [http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/irony/situational.php]Michael_McCloud said:For example: Traffic jam when you're already late: NOT IRONY (looking at you, Alanis Morissette)
That's ironic, don'tcha think?
Ah, yeah. Sorry, I've got a killer headache and it's hard to tell what's what at the moment. Wasn't sure if he was agreeing with me or trying to prove otherwise. God forbid he's an Alanis Morissette fan...Mookie_Magnus said:I think what they mean is.. that it's Ironic that none of the lyrics in Alanis Morissette's song Ironic are ironic. Just unfortunate. But a song named Ironic that isn't Ironic.. That's Ironic.Michael_McCloud said:Sorry, I'm not quite following you here. What's ironic about a definition of irony?Aardvark said:Situational Irony [http://www.sarcasmsociety.com/irony/situational.php]Michael_McCloud said:For example: Traffic jam when you're already late: NOT IRONY (looking at you, Alanis Morissette)
That's ironic, don'tcha think?
You know, you actually disappointed me there. I have to say NewClassic and Susan are both a lot more fun...ThePoodonkis said:Irony is like choking to death on a <URL=http://www.newsfromme.com/images7/lifesavers3.jpg>Lifesaver.
No, that picture link does NOT lead to a kitten.
What she's using is situational irony, whether she realises it or not. Which means that it's rather ironic that so many people point out her misuse of the word ironic.Michael_McCloud said:Sorry, I'm not quite following you here. What's ironic about a definition of irony?
Nonono. That's not situational irony. All of the things she says are just unfortunate in that there's unfairness, but not the ridiculous or "funny" nature described in that definition.Aardvark said:What she's using is situational irony, whether she realises it or not. Which means that it's rather ironic that so many people point out her misuse of the word ironic.Michael_McCloud said:Sorry, I'm not quite following you here. What's ironic about a definition of irony?
Even if it wasn't situational irony and she was incorrectly using the word, there have been chain emails sent around about this subject. Once a subject hits chain emails, it's like calling Godwin's. It's no longer witty or funny. Everyone who reads it will look at you and think you're parroting a website.
It's terrible language, but it's all technically irony. If it's the last thing the subject would expect, it's situational irony.Michael_McCloud said:Nonono. That's not situational irony. All of the things she says are just unfortunate in that there's unfairness, but not the ridiculous or "funny" nature described in that definition.
Old man wins lotto, dies next day: Sad, but not ironic. It would be ironic if the lottery was hosted by a life insurance company.
Rain on your wedding day: Not ironic in the slightest.
Traffic jam when you're already late: Once again, unfortunate but not ironic. Unless you were headed to a meeting on how you had improved the city's traffic problem.
No Smoking sign on your smoking break: Not irony unless you were at a cigarette factory at the time.
And I wasn't posting that to be witty or funny. I just hate the silly cow for her awful use of language.
Ehhh... It may technically be irony, but in the same way that a squeaky hammer is technically a weapon. It's a bit of a stretch, more of a loophole than a bona fide case.Aardvark said:It's terrible language, but it's all technically irony. If it's the last thing the subject would expect, it's situational irony.Michael_McCloud said:Nonono. That's not situational irony. All of the things she says are just unfortunate in that there's unfairness, but not the ridiculous or "funny" nature described in that definition.
Old man wins lotto, dies next day: Sad, but not ironic. It would be ironic if the lottery was hosted by a life insurance company.
Rain on your wedding day: Not ironic in the slightest.
Traffic jam when you're already late: Once again, unfortunate but not ironic. Unless you were headed to a meeting on how you had improved the city's traffic problem.
No Smoking sign on your smoking break: Not irony unless you were at a cigarette factory at the time.
And I wasn't posting that to be witty or funny. I just hate the silly cow for her awful use of language.
Regardless, it's been done to death, drop it and go back to hating Alanis Morisette for the same reason the rest of us do. Her terrible, piercing, hideous, shrill voice.Michael_McCloud said:Ehhh... It may technically be irony, but in the same way that a squeaky hammer is technically a weapon. It's a bit of a stretch, more of a loophole than a bona fide case.
Can't I hate her for both reasons?Aardvark said:Regardless, it's been done to death, drop it and go back to hating Alanis Morisette for the same reason the rest of us do. Her terrible, piercing, hideous, shrill voice.
No.Michael_McCloud said:Can't I hate her for both reasons?