Exactly this for me. It's not about immersion, its about seeing more and being more aware of things.SteewpidZombie said:
Is 3rd Person supposed to be immersive?
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I get better immersed into third-person games, because they generally have better stories, and I'm a story kind of guy.
With a third-person perspective, things can get more cinematic. (Let's be honest, first-person cutscenes don't have nearly as much room for variety.) Also, I'm playing as someone that isn't me, so of course that character can do the things they do. Cole McGrath can shoot lighting out of his body. I cannot. Sora can mow down legions of Heartless. I cannot. So on and so forth.
In a first-person game, it's implied that I'm the one performing these actions, but I know that there's no way in hell that I'd ever be able to take down a Super Mutant Behemoth in Fallout 3, or wreck a Big Daddy in BioShock. (Though really you play as Jack in BioShock, not yourself.) This causes extreme disillusionment for me, and unless I'm having a shitload of fun, I probably won't play a first-person game for as long at a time as I might a third-person game.
I guess it's really a subjective matter, but I think third-person is way more immersive than first-person.
With a third-person perspective, things can get more cinematic. (Let's be honest, first-person cutscenes don't have nearly as much room for variety.) Also, I'm playing as someone that isn't me, so of course that character can do the things they do. Cole McGrath can shoot lighting out of his body. I cannot. Sora can mow down legions of Heartless. I cannot. So on and so forth.
In a first-person game, it's implied that I'm the one performing these actions, but I know that there's no way in hell that I'd ever be able to take down a Super Mutant Behemoth in Fallout 3, or wreck a Big Daddy in BioShock. (Though really you play as Jack in BioShock, not yourself.) This causes extreme disillusionment for me, and unless I'm having a shitload of fun, I probably won't play a first-person game for as long at a time as I might a third-person game.
I guess it's really a subjective matter, but I think third-person is way more immersive than first-person.
I like your avatar. You could even say I like it alot.Littaly said:
OT: I pretty much agree with the quoted post. Especially the spell checker thing. What the what? D: How can games be reviewed without the word Immersive? But yeah, First Person often seems wrong. An interesting perspective cinematically, but nothing beyond that.
I don't like AFGNCAAPs (Ageless-Faceless-Gender-Neutral-Culturally-Ambiguous-Adventure-Person) I get the idea that you ARE the character, but it just doesn't work for me. The thing that annoys me most is that you never say a word (Looking at you Freeman). It's just not natural! This is like in Dragon Age Origins where you can be in a romantic situation, or a near-death one, and your character has this lifeless, bored out of his skull poker-face expression that I just wanna punch him!
I much rather prefer a character who has a face, a voice, a personality (even if it is an annoying one) so I can have a good reason for liking/hating him. I prefer Commander Shepard to Gordon Freeman any day of the week (Yeah, I said it, start bashing me!) because at least with Shepard I have something to relate to, and not just my hands!
I much rather prefer a character who has a face, a voice, a personality (even if it is an annoying one) so I can have a good reason for liking/hating him. I prefer Commander Shepard to Gordon Freeman any day of the week (Yeah, I said it, start bashing me!) because at least with Shepard I have something to relate to, and not just my hands!
Definitely first person. If I want to feel like I'm in that game world, first person is the only way to go. Not to understate the merit of third person though. More cinematic games work better in third person; for example uncharted, metal gear etc.
I feel the opposite as the OP. I hate the first person perspective in games. I feel detached from the world and story, and find the lack of spatial awareness of the perspective disorienting. It's not like real life because you lack all the other sensory information of your surroundings. Third person perspective makes up for some of that loss. Plus, seeing my character does make me sympathize more.
Another thing is this: I'm not the kind of gamer who sees himself as the protagonist. I see myself as the narrator for the protagonist's story.
Another thing is this: I'm not the kind of gamer who sees himself as the protagonist. I see myself as the narrator for the protagonist's story.
I find it opposite - I find 3rd person more immersive than 1st person.TimeLord said:
When in 1st person, I feel like I'm playing a floating camera with a weapon attached. I don't feel immersed or connected to my character due to a lack of any feedback. On the other hand, in 3rd person I can see my character moving and this gives me at least some feedback on what's happening and what I'm doing, allowing me to connect with my character more.
For me immersion is not defined by my connection to the main character. Doesn't really matter to me what perspective there is.
But in the end I do prefer third person simply because I like looking at my character's animation.
Incidentally I never place myself in any protagonist ever, I don't know why a lot of people tend to do that.
But in the end I do prefer third person simply because I like looking at my character's animation.
Incidentally I never place myself in any protagonist ever, I don't know why a lot of people tend to do that.
I find that third-person games work better when you're playing an established character (such as Batman), but first-person characters such as Gordon Freeman should be more of a blank slate.
Maybe you should play some RPGs in order to get out of the mentality that the person you're playing must always be you. Instead, you might learn to get yourself into the habit of putting aside yourself and playing as another character, making the decisions they would make; coming up with an idea for their personality and then mantling that idea, rather than simply seeing through another person's character's eyes.
I find myself caring a great deal about my character in third person, just in a different way. In first person, I feel like I am the character (obviously). In third person, I'm the invisible hand guiding and constantly berating the character when s/he fucks up. It's a very different kind of immersion, but to me it's highly amusing.
3rd Person can be immersive. I find Assassin's Creed immersive. 3rd person only works when the character is a tangible, solid.........uhh..... character.