Is a fanfiction depicting the murder of Randy Pitchford ok?

[Tenkage]

EDIT: It has come to my attention that Anita has many supporters and think she can do no wrong. I present to you from her own Bible that is T.V. Tropes. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SacredCow The sacred cow trope.

http://femfreq.tumblr.com/
It has come to my attention that Anita Sarkeesian has posted on her tumbler a fanfiction in which she and Spider man team up to take down Gearbox, and has her shooting and killing Randy Pitchford, "For Alien's Colonel Marines". She is ok with this fanfiction. She posted it saying, "I kinda like it"

Is this ok? Don't know about you, but I don't think its ok. Because it shows she is a hypocrite, that its ok to kill someone you don't like. And to anyone who says, "You are just trying to hate on her" and "It's just a joke"

To the first, no I am not, people have gone to court for writing stories detailing themselves killing someone who is real. Just because she didn't write the story, she still condones it.

Two, by that logic, any of the death threats she has gotten, can be considered a joke, by that logic.

Movie Bob and Jim Sterling, if you are reading this (and I doubt it) tell me, is she the mark of a good "critic" if she is willing to be like this.

And to the Escapist, I don't care if you take down this forum and ban me. Because I am not promoting hate speech, I am just showing the facts, giving my opinion, and letting people who read this to come up with their own answer and opinion.

 

[SilkySkyKitten]

No. Just no.

If a developer makes a game you don't like? Go ahead, hate them all you want. But writing fanfiction about killing the head of said developer? No, you cannot in any way say that's an okay thing to do. It's just a fucking game, after all, and not even a very offensive one (as in it's not offensive in its message or anything like that) so there's no justification for this sort of desire at all. It just makes whomever wrote it look like a whiny brat who writes bad stories about killing his/her parents whenever they discipline them.

And shame on Anna Sarkeesian too. I'm not against her work at all, and hell I believe it's good she's actually trying to start up a dialog on the subject of how females are portrayed in games rather than just shoving the topic under the rug like a lot of people seem to want to. But spreading this around and saying you like it? No. I cannot respect that.

 

[Silvanus]

I'm... I'm not seeing it, I'm afraid. It's not exactly hypocrisy; Anita Sarkeesian hasn't said anything about not depicting any deaths. It's not condoning murder, when it's done in such a clearly tongue-in-cheek fashion. I mean, "For Aliens: Colonial Marines"?


People get killed in video games, films, books, etc, all the time-- granted, it's not often just "for a joke" (though that happens in GTA and others frequently), but it's still hardly giving death the dignity and gravitas it has in real life. Why should Anita be subject to any other standards?

 

[Tenkage]

I'm... I'm not seeing it, I'm afraid. It's not exactly hypocrisy; Anita Sarkeesian hasn't said anything about not depicting any deaths. It's not condoning murder, when it's done in such a clearly tongue-in-cheek fashion. I mean, "For Aliens: Colonial Marines"?


People get killed in video games, films, books, etc, all the time-- granted, it's not often just "for a joke" (though that happens in GTA and others frequently), but it's still hardly giving death the dignity and gravitas it has in real life. Why should Anita be subject to any other standards?

Here is why I find it hypocritical, the fact she is against killing of fictional female characters in a game, and yet is alright with a story about a real life person being murdered, and for a pretty insulting reason.

 

[Anarchemitis]

Why don't people make fan-fictions about NASA?
That's a worthy cause if ever there was one.

Maybe the Mercury-7 were just too much man for shippers to handle.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Yeah, I don't see what the big damn deal is.

Sorry OP, I just don't see it, and I don't see how it's hypocrisy either.

Why don't people make fan-fictions about NASA?
That's a worthy cause if ever there was one.

Maybe the Mercury-7 were just too much man for shippers to handle.

I mean, you could have some pretty saucy times writing about the Mercury-7 and the Viking-1, but that might be too controversial.

Given the age differences and all.

 

[Nonomori]

Wait, Anita, please, don't kill me. You're right, the systemic problems of sexist depictions of women in the games needs to be stopped, and Gearbox can join you.

That's for Aliens: Colonial Marines.

Who can blame her? I kinda like it too.

It's just a mildly amusing story about terrible games. She said "I think I kind like it" and for some reason you're reading "its ok to kill someone you don't like". I'm sorry, OP, but you're taking things too seriously.

 

[Tenkage]

Wait, Anita, please, don't kill me. You're right, the systemic problems of sexist depictions of women in the games needs to be stopped, and Gearbox can join you.

That's for Aliens: Colonial Marines.

Who can blame her? I kinda like it too.

It's just a mildly amusing story about terrible games. She said "I think I kind like it" and for some reason you're reading "its ok to kill someone you don't like". I'm sorry, OP, but you're taking things too seriously.

So what happens if I write a story where I shoot her, and say, "That was for your Tropes VS Women in Video games videos"

Would you still say the same thing? If not, why?

 

[EternallyBored]

I'm... I'm not seeing it, I'm afraid. It's not exactly hypocrisy; Anita Sarkeesian hasn't said anything about not depicting any deaths. It's not condoning murder, when it's done in such a clearly tongue-in-cheek fashion. I mean, "For Aliens: Colonial Marines"?


People get killed in video games, films, books, etc, all the time-- granted, it's not often just "for a joke" (though that happens in GTA and others frequently), but it's still hardly giving death the dignity and gravitas it has in real life. Why should Anita be subject to any other standards?

Here is why I find it hypocritical, the fact she is against killing of fictional female characters in a game, and yet is alright with a story about a real life person being murdered, and for a pretty insulting reason.

Unless there's a video or statement I've missed somewhere, she has never said she is against killing female characters in games, she might have said she doesn't like it when murdering a female is depicted as sexy ala the Hitman trailer, but I don't know, I don't really obsess over every little thing she does. You know stalking her won't get her to date you right?

Sorry, that was a bit mean, but seriously it's a jokey fanfiction that she kind of sort of found amusing. I might be disturbed if she was positively gushing over some gory revenge fic that depicted her anally raping her detractors with a strap on, but this is clearly a stupid joke fic that throws random ideas together for a cheap laugh, it really isn't even worth a topic much less accusing her of hypocrisy.

 

[Tenkage]

I'm... I'm not seeing it, I'm afraid. It's not exactly hypocrisy; Anita Sarkeesian hasn't said anything about not depicting any deaths. It's not condoning murder, when it's done in such a clearly tongue-in-cheek fashion. I mean, "For Aliens: Colonial Marines"?


People get killed in video games, films, books, etc, all the time-- granted, it's not often just "for a joke" (though that happens in GTA and others frequently), but it's still hardly giving death the dignity and gravitas it has in real life. Why should Anita be subject to any other standards?

Here is why I find it hypocritical, the fact she is against killing of fictional female characters in a game, and yet is alright with a story about a real life person being murdered, and for a pretty insulting reason.

Unless there's a video or statement I've missed somewhere, she has never said she is against killing female characters in games, she might have said she doesn't like it when murdering a female is depicted as sexy ala the Hitman trailer, but I don't know, I don't really obsess over every little thing she does. You know stalking her won't get her to date you right?

Sorry, that was a bit mean, but seriously it's a jokey fanfiction that she kind of sort of found amusing. I might be disturbed if she was positively gushing over some gory revenge fic that depicted her anally raping her detractors with a strap on, but this is clearly a stupid joke fic that throws random ideas together for a cheap laugh, it really isn't even worth a topic much less accusing her of hypocrisy.

Oh really, you clearly never watched her second Video of her Tropes VS Women in video games, where she spoke out against women being killed by a man in order to further the story.

In this story, she kills a man in order to further the story.

Killing someone you don't like shouldn't be condoned, and by ackowledging the fanfiction, she is condoning it, no ifs, ands or buts. Understand?

 

[Nonomori]

Wait, Anita, please, don't kill me. You're right, the systemic problems of sexist depictions of women in the games needs to be stopped, and Gearbox can join you.

That's for Aliens: Colonial Marines.

Who can blame her? I kinda like it too.

It's just a mildly amusing story about terrible games. She said "I think I kind like it" and for some reason you're reading "its ok to kill someone you don't like". I'm sorry, OP, but you're taking things too seriously.

So what happens if I write a story where I shoot her, and say, "That was for your Tropes VS Women in Video games videos"

Would you still say the same thing? If not, why?

If you're the kind of guy who is satisfied with "I hope you get raped", I obviously wouldn't find amusing. Now, when writing something witty and interesting, you can do a lot worse than killing a character. Your story doesn't sound very original, but I hope you keep trying.

The obvious joke is that Colonial Marines sucks and virtually everyone agrees. Maybe that's too edgy for you (I'm not criticizing, by the way, just giving my perspective), but that doesn't sound like hate speech at all.

 

[Vivi22]

No. Just no.

If a developer makes a game you don't like? Go ahead, hate them all you want. But writing fanfiction about killing the head of said developer? No, you cannot in any way say that's an okay thing to do.

So long as they aren't actually threatening to kill him, yes, it's a perfectly fine thing to do.

so there's no justification for this sort of desire at all.

Equating a silly story where a person someone doesn't like is killed in a manner clearly intended to be humourous with an actual desire to kill? You must be making some pretty giant leaps to get to a conclusion like that. Honestly, you're reading far, far, FAR too much into this.

It just makes whomever wrote it look like a whiny brat who writes bad stories about killing his/her parents whenever they discipline them.

And that isn't wrong or immoral in anyway in and of itself.

 

[Tenkage]

Wait, Anita, please, don't kill me. You're right, the systemic problems of sexist depictions of women in the games needs to be stopped, and Gearbox can join you.

That's for Aliens: Colonial Marines.

Who can blame her? I kinda like it too.

It's just a mildly amusing story about terrible games. She said "I think I kind like it" and for some reason you're reading "its ok to kill someone you don't like". I'm sorry, OP, but you're taking things too seriously.

So what happens if I write a story where I shoot her, and say, "That was for your Tropes VS Women in Video games videos"

Would you still say the same thing? If not, why?

If you're the kind of guy who is satisfied with "I hope you get raped", I obviously wouldn't find amusing. Now, when writing something witty and interesting, you can do a lot worse than killing a character. Your story doesn't sound very original, but I hope you keep trying.

The obvious joke is that Colonial Marines sucks and virtually everyone agrees. Maybe that's too edgy for you (I'm not criticizing, by the way, just giving my perspective), but that doesn't sound like hate speech at all.

Ok I did not like the game, I am not defending the game. I am against the fact she is ok with a story depicting her commiting murder for a stupid reason like a terrible game.

Also I am not defending the people who said, "Get raped *****" or, "Get back to the Kitchen" but I lose any emphethy for her the moment she is ok with what can be seen as a death threat to a real life person. Kinda see where I am coming from?

 

[Vivi22]

Also I am not defending the people who said, "Get raped *****" or, "Get back to the Kitchen" but I lose any emphethy for her the moment she is ok with what can be seen as a death threat to a real life person. Kinda see where I am coming from?

Anyone who sees a silly piece of fan fiction as an actual death threat with no other information available to allow them to draw that conclusion is over reaching to say the very least. I don't see how anyone could think that's a reasonable interpretation of this in any way without more to go on than a bad piece of fan fiction.

 

[Tenkage]

Also I am not defending the people who said, "Get raped *****" or, "Get back to the Kitchen" but I lose any emphethy for her the moment she is ok with what can be seen as a death threat to a real life person. Kinda see where I am coming from?

Anyone who sees a silly piece of fan fiction as an actual death threat with no other information available to allow them to draw that conclusion is over reaching to say the very least. I don't see how anyone could think that's a reasonable interpretation of this in any way without more to go on than a bad piece of fan fiction.

So I can write a story in which I brutally kill her, and say, "Its not a death threat, its a story" no I would be run out of town, hell I could be put into court for that.

 

[Vivi22]

So I can write a story in which I brutally kill her, and say, "Its not a death threat, its a story" no I would be run out of town,

I'm sure some people would over react to it, just as some are over reacting to this.

hell I could be put into court for that.

No prosecutor worth his salt would ever take a case like that to trial, and even if they did, you'd never be convicted since you need to, you know, actually threaten someone to be convicted of making threats.

 

[lacktheknack]

It's "OK" purely in that she has every right to post it and like it.

By the same rule, it's perfectly OK for me to dislike her EVEN MORE for it, and question her mental stability.

 

[Nonomori]

Wait, Anita, please, don't kill me. You're right, the systemic problems of sexist depictions of women in the games needs to be stopped, and Gearbox can join you.

That's for Aliens: Colonial Marines.

Who can blame her? I kinda like it too.

It's just a mildly amusing story about terrible games. She said "I think I kind like it" and for some reason you're reading "its ok to kill someone you don't like". I'm sorry, OP, but you're taking things too seriously.

So what happens if I write a story where I shoot her, and say, "That was for your Tropes VS Women in Video games videos"

Would you still say the same thing? If not, why?

If you're the kind of guy who is satisfied with "I hope you get raped", I obviously wouldn't find amusing. Now, when writing something witty and interesting, you can do a lot worse than killing a character. Your story doesn't sound very original, but I hope you keep trying.

The obvious joke is that Colonial Marines sucks and virtually everyone agrees. Maybe that's too edgy for you (I'm not criticizing, by the way, just giving my perspective), but that doesn't sound like hate speech at all.

Ok I did not like the game, I am not defending the game. I am against the fact she is ok with a story depicting her commiting murder for a stupid reason like a terrible game.

Also I am not defending the people who said, "Get raped *****" or, "Get back to the Kitchen" but I lose any emphethy for her the moment she is ok with what can be seen as a death threat to a real life person. Kinda see where I am coming from?

The same story that was described as "surreal and bizarre". The same story that's all about making fun of bad video games and tired tropes. No one can see that as a death threat.

So I can write a story in which I brutally kill her, and say, "Its not a death threat, its a story" no I would be run out of town, hell I could be put into court for that.

Now you're just being dramatic. Funny or not, right or not, that won't happen.

 

[Cabisco]

I tend to stay away from this whole Sarkeesian thing as it just seems to be rocket fuel for the eternal debate of sexism within videogames but I do think it's quite sick and twisted that such a fan fiction exists because someone was involved in a game you didn't like.

I don't feel comfortable when people dislike me, I can't think how I'd react if I found out someone had great fun depicting my death for the amusement of others. What I'm reading doesn't sound tongue in cheek either, just a bad joke and Randy Pitchford dying is a punchline because... he did that thing you didn't like?

I'm finding myself trying to figure out how I'd react if I were Randy Pitchford stumbling across this. I'd likely cry a little.

 

[Altorin]

ask yourself a question, if it didn't have anything to with Sarkessian, would you care at all?

I, myself, don't care at all