Is a flamethrower a practical weapon these days?

Recommended Videos

KefZ_X

Senior Member
Nov 14, 2007
183
0
21
TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
Not really. I mean the full rig weighs like 80 tons, the fuel is painfully expensive, and they're range is much less than even the shittiest rifle. Also illegal. Infact, the only good thing about a flame thrower is that it is a fear weapon: a man made fire breathing dragon if you would.
But look at how much fun you can have
 

Mcface

New member
Aug 30, 2009
2,266
0
0
JWAN said:
Mcface said:
JWAN said:
Mcface said:
mrhappyface said:
Back in WW2 and Vietnam, the US have frequently used flamethrowers. Nowadays, we use incedinary rockets and explosives to compensate for this. Since I personally think that's better than lugging around a 50 pound backpack of fuel and compressed air, I think it's an advantage. What do you think?
You would NOT want a flamethrower in the middle east. I'll tell you that right now.

Flamethrowers are offensive weapons, and in a situation where your almost always on the defense, it's a ticking timebomb.

And if there are barricaded hostiles these days, chances are pretty high they will just call a CAS precision air strike or artillery barrage on the house/building.

Also, not to mention some insurgents wear explosive vests. You light the guy on fire, boom, there goes half a city block.
if your close enough for the explosion to set off your pack the explosive vest has already killed you
Yeah, that's my point.
A bullet isn't going to set a vest off.
see, now that's a whole other angle. We can start talking about types of explosives for everything from garage brewed to demo charges to military grade explosives.
Fire/concussions do not always set off explosives, but some of the most random things you can imagine do. For instance straight up dynamite can go off if its improperly stored and gets casually dropped(or shot) where as C4 wont necessarily explode unless its electronically triggered.
And for that i would have to ask my engineer buddy.
Some of them burn others explode and some just smolder and those variables are so numerous I don't think the forum could handle them.
I agree with you to a point but holy God in heaven i don't want to start discussing the THOUSANDS of materiel's or the MILLIONS of scenarios.
My point was, I would rather shoot the SOB from the next house over, rather than running in the front door and setting him on fire.

Better yet, why not call a precision air strike in his backyard?
 

BENZOOKA

This is the most wittiest title
Oct 26, 2009
3,920
0
0
It's very unpractical, dangerous and unnecessary amongst other negative things. Especially nowadays.
 

JWAN

New member
Dec 27, 2008
2,725
0
0
TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
Not really. I mean the full rig weighs like 80 tons, the fuel is painfully expensive, and they're range is much less than even the shittiest rifle. Also illegal. Infact, the only good thing about a flame thrower is that it is a fear weapon: a man made fire breathing dragon if you would.
The rig weighs 60 pounds, the combustible element is cheap ass jellied ________(fill in the blank with whatever you can jelly and make burn)and the range depends on if its the backpack, the small vehicle mount or the modified tank that can shoot it 125+ yards(1945 modified Sherman Tank) and against bunkers/tunnels/trenches they kicked so much ass that they used modified flame tanks until Vietnam where they were worth their weight in gold routing out the commies in Hue and entrenched in hillsides around Khe Sahn.
 

JWAN

New member
Dec 27, 2008
2,725
0
0
Mcface said:
JWAN said:
Mcface said:
JWAN said:
Mcface said:
mrhappyface said:
Back in WW2 and Vietnam, the US have frequently used flamethrowers. Nowadays, we use incedinary rockets and explosives to compensate for this. Since I personally think that's better than lugging around a 50 pound backpack of fuel and compressed air, I think it's an advantage. What do you think?
You would NOT want a flamethrower in the middle east. I'll tell you that right now.

Flamethrowers are offensive weapons, and in a situation where your almost always on the defense, it's a ticking timebomb.

And if there are barricaded hostiles these days, chances are pretty high they will just call a CAS precision air strike or artillery barrage on the house/building.

Also, not to mention some insurgents wear explosive vests. You light the guy on fire, boom, there goes half a city block.
if your close enough for the explosion to set off your pack the explosive vest has already killed you
Yeah, that's my point.
A bullet isn't going to set a vest off.
see, now that's a whole other angle. We can start talking about types of explosives for everything from garage brewed to demo charges to military grade explosives.
Fire/concussions do not always set off explosives, but some of the most random things you can imagine do. For instance straight up dynamite can go off if its improperly stored and gets casually dropped(or shot) where as C4 wont necessarily explode unless its electronically triggered.
And for that i would have to ask my engineer buddy.
Some of them burn others explode and some just smolder and those variables are so numerous I don't think the forum could handle them.
I agree with you to a point but holy God in heaven i don't want to start discussing the THOUSANDS of materiel's or the MILLIONS of scenarios.
My point was, I would rather shoot the SOB from the next house over, rather than running in the front door and setting him on fire.

Better yet, why not call a precision air strike in his backyard?
why not burn the house out by bouncing the flame into his front door? you cant always run away far enough to get out of your own arty/bombing strikes and sometimes a flamethrower mounted in a tank can burn the building out so you can reoccupy it instead of leveling it.
 

KiruTheMant

New member
Nov 2, 2009
1,946
0
0
Very useful

At time when the soldier is the last aluive,or wounded,and surrounded by enemy's,theres a pressure slip that you can oull that crates a spark,combining the flame making a massive esplosion,at least a football field sized.
 

JWAN

New member
Dec 27, 2008
2,725
0
0
ClaptonKnophlerHendrix said:
Who needs practicality when you can shoot ten metres of fire at people!
33 meters (The WWII USMC version)throw it on a Sherman tank and your good to 125 meters, throw it on a Patton and your almost up to 175 meters (depending on wind of course)
 

Brnin8

New member
Jul 17, 2009
562
0
0
They are clearly useful for spychecking in the Cold War jeez...
I of course am kidding, they are only really useful in video games.
 

Mcface

New member
Aug 30, 2009
2,266
0
0
JWAN said:
Mcface said:
JWAN said:
Mcface said:
JWAN said:
Mcface said:
mrhappyface said:
Back in WW2 and Vietnam, the US have frequently used flamethrowers. Nowadays, we use incedinary rockets and explosives to compensate for this. Since I personally think that's better than lugging around a 50 pound backpack of fuel and compressed air, I think it's an advantage. What do you think?
You would NOT want a flamethrower in the middle east. I'll tell you that right now.

Flamethrowers are offensive weapons, and in a situation where your almost always on the defense, it's a ticking timebomb.

And if there are barricaded hostiles these days, chances are pretty high they will just call a CAS precision air strike or artillery barrage on the house/building.

Also, not to mention some insurgents wear explosive vests. You light the guy on fire, boom, there goes half a city block.
if your close enough for the explosion to set off your pack the explosive vest has already killed you
Yeah, that's my point.
A bullet isn't going to set a vest off.
see, now that's a whole other angle. We can start talking about types of explosives for everything from garage brewed to demo charges to military grade explosives.
Fire/concussions do not always set off explosives, but some of the most random things you can imagine do. For instance straight up dynamite can go off if its improperly stored and gets casually dropped(or shot) where as C4 wont necessarily explode unless its electronically triggered.
And for that i would have to ask my engineer buddy.
Some of them burn others explode and some just smolder and those variables are so numerous I don't think the forum could handle them.
I agree with you to a point but holy God in heaven i don't want to start discussing the THOUSANDS of materiel's or the MILLIONS of scenarios.
My point was, I would rather shoot the SOB from the next house over, rather than running in the front door and setting him on fire.

Better yet, why not call a precision air strike in his backyard?
why not burn the house down by bouncing the flame into his front door? you cant always run away far enough to get out of your own arty/bombing strikes and sometimes a flamethrower mounted in a tank can burn the building out so you can reoccupy it instead of leveling it.
A frag through the window will do just that, though. And everyone carries those. Hell, toss an incendiary in if you just want to burn someone that badly. Point of the argument is that they (flamethrowers) are pretty obsolete in modern warfare. Could that change? Sure, if the theater changed.

But with the majority of combat taking place 100+ meters away, a flamethrower would be inadequate.
 
Mar 28, 2009
698
0
0
JWAN said:
ClaptonKnophlerHendrix said:
Who needs practicality when you can shoot ten metres of fire at people!
33 meters (The WWII USMC version)throw it on a Sherman tank and your good to 125 meters, throw it on a Patton and your almost up to 175 meters (depending on wind of course)
Thats alot of team killing.
 
Dec 14, 2009
15,526
0
0
Juven Ignus said:
Daystar Clarion said:
I think the U.N. has banned the use of flamethrowers. Don't quote me on that though.
Nope. People can still own and use them as long as they have written that they will use it for the purpose of fighting Africanized honey bees. After all, they're too small to shoot and to numerous to beat with a stick.
I meant in terms of warefare.
 

Guitarmasterx7

Day Pig
Mar 16, 2009
3,872
0
0
no, because even if they had practical range and accuracy IIRC something crazy like 80% of them ended up exploding anyways.
 

Zed8

New member
Feb 11, 2009
2
0
0
Okay. Fuel tanks DO NOT, I repeat, NOT usually explode if they are shot.

"The risk of a flamethrower operator being caught in the explosion of his weapon due to enemy hits on the tanks is exaggerated in Hollywood films.

It should be noted that flame thrower operators did not usually face a fiery death from the slightest spark or even from having their tank hit by a normal bullet as often depicted in modern war films. The Gas Container [i.e. the pressurizer] is filled with a non-flammable gas that is under high pressure. If this tank were ruptured, it might knock the operator forward as it was expended in the same way a pressurized aerosol can bursts outward when punctured. The fuel mixture in the Fuel Containers is difficult to light which is why magnesium filled igniters are required when the weapon is fired. Fire a bullet into a metal can filled with diesel or napalm and it will merely leak out the hole unless the round was an incendiary type that could possibly ignite the mixture inside. This also applies to the flame thrower Fuel Container."

Also, I am appalled by the number of gamers completely trivializing the lives of soldiers. Nobody here has any idea what it would be like to be in a war (obviously including myself). Burning people alive is not "awesome." Soldiers don't "camp" and it isn't "cheap." Come on, people, grow up.
 

Allstar309

New member
Apr 19, 2009
235
0
0
Personally I wouldn't want to be wondering around with a backpack filled with fuel. I rather a shotgun or a rocket launcher.
 

luvd1

New member
Jan 25, 2010
736
0
0
Sir Kemper said:
luvd1 said:
And zombies. wonder why it's never mentioned or used in the films? this is why. it will be a very short film that's why. zombie hord attack, zombie hord burn. Zombie hord are sucked up into a hoover bag. the end.
Actually, my relitivly new friend, let me ask you whats worse; a horde of zombie? or a Horde of slow burning zombie clawing away at your barricades, as well as setting them on fire!

Also welcome to the escapist.
Well ta mate. And you think some kind of chicken fence so the match stick men can chargrill themselfs? I like that plan.
 

Arc_Light

New member
Jan 23, 2010
78
0
0
Practical? Perhaps.... Ethical? Questionable..... Effective?.....Kinda

Superseded? Definitely.... Thermobaric munitions are far more effective, and as 'terror weapons', (forgive me) more terrifying..... In the first Gulf War, (god this annoys me) Iraqi formations would surrender not by having 'daisy cutters' used against them, but simply by having them used 'near' them..... The 'Flame Thrower' is outdated, but incendiary weapons will always have their own little niche in EVERYBODY'S armed forces....
 

Mozza444

New member
Nov 19, 2009
1,393
0
0
flamethrowers are stupid.. yes ok they are cool.. Practical? No. A guy with a flame thrower vs a guy with pretty much any gun.. sure the guy with the gun would die, but he wouldnt die first..