Is advancing tech making us more lazy?

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Addendum_Forthcoming said:
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I like Shadowrun for the Shadowrunning. You get gipped. I do the Robin Hood thing, only I get to keep the money.
Well... unfortunately the Robin Hood thing tends to draw the police. With guns. And it's a bit more serious than an intensive care roll and one week in your apartment with only a scant chance of Lone Star interruption.
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Yep. Handwriting will be dead soon and then me and my cursive-writing buddies will be the ELITE of the world! Nobody can understand us! Nobody!
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It's a good thing, the only problem is that everyone should be able to experience how much fun it all is, the tech should be available so we can all have more free time, worldwide.

The work week should only be 20 hours or less.

Stop letting old fucks pretend-run everything.

They can't even type and let people get poisoned and die.
 

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I fear that which I could aspire to do in ym childhood could become something technology takes away from me within 30 years, leaving me and future generations with no aspirations only free time for a lifetime....no thanks, sounds boring. I like working hard at something, just depends on what it is and what the results do for the world.
 

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Technology is allowing us to achieve more with less, laziness is just a byproduct I think.

Unless the tech is specifically more laziness, like that battery-powered rotating fork designed for eating spaghetti.
 

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Isn't that the purpose of technology? Not to make us lazy but to enable our laziness?

Why did we invent the wheel? Because we didn't want to walk places or haul heavy crap.

I guess you could say the point of technology is to make life easier and more efficient, but laziness yeah, can be a bi-product of that.
 

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The thing technology is actually killing is our special awareness and sense of direction.
In the sense that they actually atrophy. This is 100% serious.
GPS does weird things to a brain.
 
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Yeah, advancing tech does make us a bit more lazy.

But the world makes up for it by continuing to ramp up the amount of work we need to do in order to get by, so it balances out.

Also, some of this laziness is actually efficiency. It just LOOKS like laziness to the old generation because we take the approach that uses less energy, but also happens to be more efficient.
 

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Lonestar was outbid lately by Knight's Errant, at least on the North American continent. Still, you gotta remember that runners tend to have fake IDs, a tendency to kill the fuzz who could put the finger on them (assuming they weren't aiming to kill runners, anyway), and safe houses. It's a fraggin' hellhole here, chummer, but it DOES get interesting.
Null sweat, then. I'll see you Down Under.

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MCerberus said:
The thing technology is actually killing is our special awareness and sense of direction.
In the sense that they actually atrophy. This is 100% serious.
GPS does weird things to a brain.
In the sense that any skill you don't need you tend to use less, and without practice skills get rusty, yes.

However, people can (and really should) stop using the damned GPS for everything. You can still use maps. Hell, download those to your phone and use them instead of the GPS app.
 

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Children still used pen and paper when it come to written work at school right?

OT- Yes pretty much. I still make notes via pen and paper incase my pc become broken. Still I don't recall writting a letter by hand, maybe when I had to write a letter to some companies for a work experience at high school?

It would be an interesting day if there was some kind of emp or something to wipe out all technologies on Earth.
 

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Children still used pen and paper when it come to written work at school right?

OT- Yes pretty much. I still make notes via pen and paper incase my pc become broken. Still I don't recall writting a letter by hand, maybe when I had to write a letter to some companies for a work experience at high school?

It would be an interesting day if there was some kind of emp or something to wipe out all technologies on Earth.
Define "technology", though. I mean, before we wrote on computers we used ball-point pens (ok, they are still used). Before ball point pens there was the old metal things that go in ink pots my parents used. I've never gotten the hang of writing with them. Before that there were feathers. People used to write on wax or clay tablets.

I don't hear anyone complaining about how nobody writes with feathers anymore. The stuff that used to be used in living memory, that's only now fading away, sure, losing that is a disaster, but never the stuff that replaced.
 

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Well the question is how is any of that an example of laziness? Why is going to flip a light switch somehow more worthy than doing it remotely? What you're valuing is familiar ways of doing things, not work. What's lazy is not doing work such that there are negative consequences or I suppose in some cases avoiding doing work to reap benefits because you value resting more.

What isn't lazy is using a more convenient method with no downsides. Like seriously, why NOT type instead of write by hand nowadays? Is there a benefit or is this just 'oh but I like this old familiar thing'?
 

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Sort of. I'd say, though, that the big problem isn't being made lazier, it's being made stupider. People adjust to having the answers to their every problem "researchable online" so if something comes up that needs an answer NOW, they're pretty much hosed. Memory atrophies just like a muscle; if you don't use it, it'll weaken pretty tremendously. The side point to that is that expecting every answer to be accessible instantly leads to a weakness in problem-solving; I've often thought that a good puzzle for a modern adventure game would be to get Wing Commander 3 running on a 486 without using Extended Memory manager. Couple the laziness of expecting all the answers to be readily findable out there with the stupidity of not knowing how to work them out yourself, and you've got a recipe for trouble. Granted, outside of the third world, it's very rarely an unsurvivable situation; we have technology to save us. But when you become fully reliant on anything outside of your own head, it's only a matter of time before it stabs you in the back.

Note that I'm not decrying technology here, just overreliance on it; all those who wish to dance on the grave of cursive are going to have to wait until I'm finished.
 

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Heh... whenever I run into baby boomers pissing and moaning about how today kids are lazy and the jobless refuse to labour, not like the good ol' days... I look at them and smile; "Yeah... let's bring those days back... with their relative incomes, total work availability, and taxing your free lunch."
I get frustrated a lot at baby-boomers. There was an inflammatory article going around on my facebook about how "85% of Baby-boomers spending their children's inheritance before they die". And there were heaps of baby-boomers and millennials both saying "it's their money do what they want etc".

And I'm trying to explain that millennials don't want their parents money. The inheritance that Baby-boomers are spending isn't on of petty cash. Millennials want to inherit reliable jobs, an affordable housing market, access to tertiary education, healthcare, social supports, political stability, civil infrastructure and a renewing environment. Not just for us but for our children too.

I work in healthcare and boomers shit me up the wall there too. There was this old guy with dementia who had to come into a hospital for crisis accommodation because his wife/carer was very unwell. He got bounced out 50 miles from his home town to a regional hospital for a week while he was waiting for a nursing home bed. He had 3-4 middle aged children none of whom appeared to take him back to their home when their father had basically been shanghai'd by the medical system to the middle of nowhere. I know if my father was in a similar situation I'd have taken leave to look after him and then had to eat the financial consequences.

(I don't include my parents in the rants against baby-boomers, they understand how unfair it is. For example they both had their entire university education paid by the government in the 80s so they helped pay my subsidized but still costly university education)

Baby boomers. They seem want to live alone in their homes, sending their parents (the greatest and silent generations) to retirements homes, while kicking their children into subsistence living renting. They talk about millennial entitlement but you look at any other western time period or current developing countries and you will see multi-generational living. Grandparents, middle aged adults and their adult children with young children, all living together helping with the activities of daily living as best they can. A grandparent looks after the children while working adults go to their employment. Those adults in turn care for their grandparents when they get frail.

People built things with the idea of lifting their children and descendants up to live better lives than they did. What happened to that?
 

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