Is being a gentlemen sexist?

[theAlfaBlade]

last summer in summer camp we went to watch green lantern. After walking out of the bus,I went out of the way and hold the door for all of the girls near me to go first,but a new girl that recently got into camp made a irritating face and said "What,go in for yourself macho".
Even though she made an effort;I over heard her saying how I was a sexist douchebag,and how she can take care of herself. After the movies I asked my friend if this was the case ,and she said it wasn't true,but I have my doubts.

What's your look on the topic


To answer everyone's question I used to open men my age (still do with little children or old men or women) but when I do this guys think am being gay or "treating" them like a girl.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

My view on the topic: it's polite to hold the door for people coming behind you, male or female. It's rude to get up in someone's face for being polite.

 

[DarkRyter]

The core of sexism is the belief that woman should be treated differently than men. To hold a door for a woman and not a man is sexist, regardless of any preconceived social norms on proper etiquette are.

 

[Nouw]

The core of sexism is the belief that woman should be treated differently than men. To hold a door for a woman and not a man is sexist, regardless of any preconceived social norms on proper etiquette are.

This.

To treat someone differently because of their sex is sexist.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

That depends.

Did you hold the door open for her because she's a woman, or just because it's the polite thing to do?

Either way, she was being sexist by jumping to conclusions.

Gotta love the irony.

A gentleman is gentlemanly to everyone, regardless of sex, age or status.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

What is this, a quadruple post? The thread display hamsters must be having issues

Anyway, here's my response from one of the other copies of the thread, since this one seems to be the active one:

My view on the topic: it's polite to hold the door for people coming behind you, male or female. It's rude to get up in someone's face for being polite.

 

[Hazy992]

You mean being chivalrous? Because chivalry is sexist as you're treating women differently because they're women. If you're just being polite and gentlemanly for everyone then obviously that's not sexist.

 

[Shoqiyqa]

Is being a gentlemen sexist?

No, but it is pluralist.

 

[Phasmal]

Repeat thread.

Being a gentleman only to women is kind of a dick move. Be gentlemanly to everyone.
I find it so funny that `holding the door` open is made out like a big thing. The only thing that pisses me off is if some guy legs it in front of me just so he can hold the door open. It's just... weird.
I hold the door open for dudes, and I've had dudes refuse to walk through a door I was holding for them- but I dont make a big thing of it.

EDIT: Wait- what? You were holding the door on a bus? You dont need to do that, don't they stay open by themselves? If thats the case you probably looked a bit of a prat.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Am I the only one that makes sure not to hold doors open for anyone, so people behind me have to dodge shutting doors?

Ok, only with people I know, but still...

 

[soren7550]

No, it's just being nice.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

Gentlemanliness is defined as being Chivalrous, Courteous or honourable.

Though being chivalrous is generally an attribute targeted especially towards women, being Courteous and honourable are aspects that are applicable to anyone, regardless of gender.

So no, not inherently sexist. But can be if you act in an exclusionary manner towards men.

EDIT: Which frankly would mean you aren't being gentlemanly. So yes, gentlemanliness isn't sexist.

 

[Eamar]

This discussion has been done to death in the recent past. Please don't let this blow up again >.<

[small]I don't usually point out repeat threads, but seriously we've had this exact same discussion in the last month or so[/small]

EDIT: Already been posted here, but hey:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.373115-Poll-Is-treating-women-in-Gentlemanly-way-Sexist

That conversation finished a month ago. Opinions won't have changed to any significant degree since then.

/thread. Please?

 

[MasochisticAvenger]

Well it does strike me as a little odd you specifically mention you were holding open the door for just the girls. Were you stopping the guys, or were there just none near you at the time? It seems a little strange.

 

[Sexy Devil]

Am I the only one that makes sure not to hold doors open for anyone, so people behind me have to dodge shutting doors?

Ok, only with people I know, but still...

If I know the person well then I actively make an effort to close it in front of them just to be a dickhead.

But otherwise, are you only holding it open for women? Because that's kind of a dick move; having a vagina doesn't lessen one's capability to open a door. If you hold it for everyone then no problemo <insert celebrity whose name ends with 'emo' here>.

Though I suppose if you really want you can hold onto those antiquated notions of chivalry. Just so long as there's not a long line of women, a guy at the end, and you let all the women through but close it on the guy.

 

[Combustion Kevin]

if someone gets up in my face for being polite, I see that as a valid excuse to be as much of a dick to em as possible.

it's what they want, right?
>.>
<.<

right?

 

[Gabanuka]

No don't worry about it. Unless you're only gentlemanly to women in which case consistency is your friend.

 

[Lieju]

This topic again?

Anyway, it's sexist if you're only doing it for the women.
I hold doors open for people who come after me, no matter if they are men or women, and open doors to any people who have their hands full of stuff.

 

[Colour Scientist]

Why?
Why don't these threads go away?

Seriously, I'd nearly be in favour of a 'wtf women' sub-forum, just so the front page isn't cluttered with these threads every bloody day.

The action itself is polite, you're just doing it for the wrong reasons, that's normally the case anyway.