Is Bloodborne the Resident Evil game we deserve?

[Casual Shinji]

And the way I see it, most people have their head up their asses worshipping Bloodborne.

I just think this thread asks a stupid question (and if it came from Jim Sterling I'm not surprised) and deserves a stupid answer.

Who's worshipping Bloodborne? The game was just released and obviously the people who like it wanna talk about it. You seem to have this weird obsession with coming into every Bloodborne thread in order to shit-talk it.

 

[Fox12]

Bloodborne is nothing like Resident Evil. It's not a survival game. Resident Evil completely lost it's way at 4 but the games before then had distinct themes regarding body horror and scientific research gone wrong. It's drawing more from Frankenstein than any other work, but it actually did it well fundamentally.

Eh, I like RE as much as the next guy, but lets not pretend it's anything other then the equivalent of a bad grind house B movie. The writing, acting, and story were so awful that they were funny, and it worked. The design was really good, but I wouldn't hold the franchise up as the gold standard for horror. Besides, isn't it somewhat disingenuous to criticize bloodborne for borrowing ideas from other stories when RE was one of the most derivative franchises in its genre?

I haven't played enough of bloodborne to decide whether the plot is solid or not, but Dark Souls had some of the best lore in video games, and I'm curious to see where bloodborne goes.

 

[SeventhSigil]

I will say that the Forbidden Woods is a better homage to RE4 than the entirety of Evil Within, which is ironic considering it was made by the creator of RE4. But no I wouldn't say it's survival horror due to the action and ability to absolutely destroy your enemies. I will say that Bloodborne has disturbed me and horrified more than any RE game released to date, which is less I can say for some of the more pretentious folk in this thread who worship it to the point of having their head up their ass when it comes to the "horror" in RE games.

And the way I see it, most people have their head up their asses worshipping Bloodborne.

I just think this thread asks a stupid question (and if it came from Jim Sterling I'm not surprised) and deserves a stupid answer.

Soooo.. Basically, 'don't have your head up your ass worshiping a game, unless it's early Resident Evil, in which case it's fine'?

Don't get me wrong, I don't actually think that Bloodborne and Resident Evil have that many close ties, nor would I label it survival horror, but I do find it a funny that you're criticizing others for worshiping one game too much, while I've seen your comments on the early Resident Evil series border on fellatio. =P Please, enthrall us a bit more with how elegant the remake is. Of course, I'm sure the difference here is that as far as you're concerned, it's okay to worship the early Resident Evil games, because they are so totally worth the reverence... You at least recognize that you are doing a bit of your own worship, you just happen to be directing it towards a different Idol, right?

 

[hybridial]

I've not done anything more than respond to things others have said. Yes I think Resident Evil is a fantastic game. Yes I think it's far better than Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, etc. etc. etc.

This topic has made that viewpoint relevant. It'd be silly to directly compare these games in anything other than "What one is more enjoyable" which is a very broad question. But since this topic has, for whatever reason, decided to try and make that comparison, well I've simply responded to it.

Since all anyone has done is imply ridicule because they don't agree (I have no problems with direct disagreements but a lot of problems with the tone of some of the responses made), I really don't owe anyone more than that reasoning.

 

[jhoroz]

I will say that the Forbidden Woods is a better homage to RE4 than the entirety of Evil Within, which is ironic considering it was made by the creator of RE4. But no I wouldn't say it's survival horror due to the action and ability to absolutely destroy your enemies. I will say that Bloodborne has disturbed me and horrified more than any RE game released to date, which is less I can say for some of the more pretentious folk in this thread who worship it to the point of having their head up their ass when it comes to the "horror" in RE games.

And the way I see it, most people have their head up their asses worshipping Bloodborne.

I just think this thread asks a stupid question (and if it came from Jim Sterling I'm not surprised) and deserves a stupid answer.

Soooo.. Basically, 'don't have your head up your ass worshiping a game, unless it's early Resident Evil, in which case it's fine'?

Don't get me wrong, I don't actually think that Bloodborne and Resident Evil have that many close ties, nor would I label it survival horror, but I do find it a funny that you're criticizing others for worshiping one game too much, while I've seen your comments on the early Resident Evil series border on fellatio. =P Please, enthrall us a bit more with how elegant the remake is. Of course, I'm sure the difference here is that as far as you're concerned, it's okay to worship the early Resident Evil games, because they are so totally worth the reverence... You at least recognize that you are doing a bit of your own worship, you just happen to be directing it towards a different Idol, right?

It's also hilarious his knocks on the combat of the Souls games when you consider how a lot of RE's intensity comes from the deliberate handicaps that the game forces on you. His posts just scream a hilarious lack of self awareness.

 

[hybridial]

It's also hilarious his knocks on the combat of the Souls games when you consider how a lot of RE's intensity comes from the deliberate handicaps that the game forces on you. His posts just scream a hilarious lack of self awareness.

I wouldn't really even bother with this if the lack of reading comprehension it displays wasn't so hilarious.

Bloodborne is an action game. People make a point of praising it for its combat. That has nothing to do with why I praise Resident Evil, and I knock its combat because it sucks.

The whole point is Bloodborne is an action game. You can call it action horror if you so please, but I kinda feel action takes the horror out of horror and you can have a more effective horror game with strictly puzzle based gameplay like say, Tormentum, because you don't have the atmosphere being killed by your slashing of repetitive mooks. Again, these points were already made very well by someone else.

At this point your disparaging of Resident Evil has nothing to do with this topic, or Bloodborne.

We all have our heads up our asses. But I'm not the one who's tried to insult others for it, merely point it out.

 

[Silvanus]

The "elegance" of REmake? You mean the game that forces you to run back and forth between item boxes ad nauseam, and stripped the series of its campy fun and colour? To each their own.

That "campy fun" wasn't really in much evidence until RE4, was it? We can hardly blame a remake of the first in the series for reflecting the tone of the game it's remaking.

 

[Casual Shinji]

The "elegance" of REmake? You mean the game that forces you to run back and forth between item boxes ad nauseam, and stripped the series of its campy fun and colour? To each their own.

That "campy fun" wasn't really in much evidence until RE4, was it? We can hardly blame a remake of the first in the series for reflecting the tone of the game it's remaking.

Not intentionally, no. But Resident Evil 2 and 3 were silly stories with terrible dialoge and voice acting, and that certainly added to the charm and fun factor. REmake tried to tell a more serious story but without the narrative chops to make it work, so we're left with bone dry characters.

 

[Silvanus]

Not intentionally, no. But Resident Evil 2 and 3 were silly stories with terrible dialoge and voice acting, and that certainly added to the charm and fun factor. REmake tried to tell a more serious story but without the narrative chops to make it work, so we're left with bone dry characters.

That's fair, to each their own. For my part, I played R.E. for atmospherics and horror, and while I find some level of absurdity charming (Nemesis, for instance), the direction in 4 & 5 felt like more of a break from what I enjoyed than anything else.

The Lisa Trevor sections in the REmake must be some of my favourite parts of all, I must say.

 

[Casual Shinji]

That's fair, to each their own. For my part, I played R.E. for atmospherics and horror, and while I find some level of absurdity charming (Nemesis, for instance), the direction in 4 & 5 felt like more of a break from what I enjoyed than anything else.

For me it was the whole package of fun monsters, horror antics, and silly characters. RE4 still readily provided that along with better controls. After that it went to shit.

The Lisa Trevor sections in the REmake must be some of my favourite parts of all, I must say.

She is a great sad monster, and my favourite part of the entirety of REmake was actually just walking through her lair while her theme tune played.