Yeah, because you're not benefiting your team by camping. Using motion sensors and your recon gear however will.
Is camping in Battlefield as bad as in CoD
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I only just got this on Steam, but it seems to be 95% of the servers have anti-spawnkill measures of some kind in place. Of course I dunno if this is the case on consoles.Juk3n said:
Doesn't happen too often but squads full of Recon? Ughhh. The worst thing is that if everyone on one team goes Recon that team will always lose and almost certainly won't score well (either via actual score or KD) doing so.General_Potatoes said:
You get a lot of snipers (wookies) hanging back and doing the team no good but camping just isn't as effective on BF. There are too many options to take them out, after a little while you'll find that a supportive squad is the key to doing well and it's really satisfying.
All working to an objective and supporting your team is a good experience and its a shared one.
That said if you play on hardcore the gameplay gets a bit static and camping pays off more so people use it. I'm usually a hardcore exponent (ahem) but in BF BC2 I find the standard mode much better.
The SASS servers are good, they have some rank restricted "noob" servers so you won't get cornholed by rank 50's all day long and its usually a good crowd.
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All working to an objective and supporting your team is a good experience and its a shared one.
That said if you play on hardcore the gameplay gets a bit static and camping pays off more so people use it. I'm usually a hardcore exponent (ahem) but in BF BC2 I find the standard mode much better.
The SASS servers are good, they have some rank restricted "noob" servers so you won't get cornholed by rank 50's all day long and its usually a good crowd.
I'll see you there
In other news, adverts in the captchas?! FFS!
You can call it camping if you want, but to me it's defending. Also if any of those Snipers get on your nerves, just aim at them and spot them, and the snipers on your team will take them out no problem.
You can spot enemy players for the rest of your team, and you have destructible buildings.
So even if a camper kills you, as long as you press your q button while targeting him, everyone else on your team will be able to see him, and can asily destroy his cover. You even get points for that kill, even if all you did was spot him.
So even if a camper kills you, as long as you press your q button while targeting him, everyone else on your team will be able to see him, and can asily destroy his cover. You even get points for that kill, even if all you did was spot him.
By " a way of dealing with them" he means blowing the wall the little prick is camping behind and disfiguring his dead body with bullets!somersetsaxon said:
No idea to be honest. Less than CoD? Almost definitely. Pretty much every mechanic in CoD rewards camping. Will Battlefield be campy by its own accord? No idea.
Bad Company 2 is actually quite as anti-campy as you can get in this specific subgenre of shooter. It took a lot of very successful steps to ensure camping isn't a very "safe" strategy:
- Removed prone, so you can't just lie down and camp it out.
- Destructible scenarios mean hiding behind pretty much anything can suddenly turn on you. People can drop an entire house on you if you decide to camp the attic.
- Spawning system ensures a more tactical outlook of the battlefield. Less random "just spawned in the place you ran past 2 seconds ago. Eat a bullet" moments. More reward for movement.
- Objectives mean that there's something worth moving towards. And if you're camping people know where. Camping in an obscure part of the map doesn't win anyone any games.
- No "kill streak perks", along with the "objective" mechanic, reward team progress, and self-sacrifice for the team, as opposed to the individual defending his own kill streak by whatever means (i.e.: leaving everyone else to die).
That said, I know Battlefield 3 will have prone (+campiness), but will retain and in fact enhance the destruction (-campiness). Other than that, I don't know which mechanics it'll use, so...who knows.
Less campy than CoD I can almost certainly guarantee it will be though.
Bad Company 2 is actually quite as anti-campy as you can get in this specific subgenre of shooter. It took a lot of very successful steps to ensure camping isn't a very "safe" strategy:
- Removed prone, so you can't just lie down and camp it out.
- Destructible scenarios mean hiding behind pretty much anything can suddenly turn on you. People can drop an entire house on you if you decide to camp the attic.
- Spawning system ensures a more tactical outlook of the battlefield. Less random "just spawned in the place you ran past 2 seconds ago. Eat a bullet" moments. More reward for movement.
- Objectives mean that there's something worth moving towards. And if you're camping people know where. Camping in an obscure part of the map doesn't win anyone any games.
- No "kill streak perks", along with the "objective" mechanic, reward team progress, and self-sacrifice for the team, as opposed to the individual defending his own kill streak by whatever means (i.e.: leaving everyone else to die).
That said, I know Battlefield 3 will have prone (+campiness), but will retain and in fact enhance the destruction (-campiness). Other than that, I don't know which mechanics it'll use, so...who knows.
Less campy than CoD I can almost certainly guarantee it will be though.
BF:BC2 plays much in a move up, hunker down, Capture objective, Kill some fools, move up, hunker down.... way. In this sense camping, as in defending an area, is perfectly fine.
And if at the end of the day you're struggling to wheedle out a squad from its emplacements around a objective then you just bring in the explosives and reduce said cover into a pile of debris.
I've also seen great use of one player hanging back and 'camping' in an area with good LOS and just spotting targets. When I have enough friends online playing to form a squad the Recon will throw his motion mines out ahead of us then take a position a couple hundred meters back from the objective and Spot enemies for us and give us early warnings for tanks/heli's. Works pretty well and in the event if all three of the 'fighters' die then we can spawn on him and get back in the fight.
So yes, camping is useful. You just need to know when to do it and when to move up.
And if at the end of the day you're struggling to wheedle out a squad from its emplacements around a objective then you just bring in the explosives and reduce said cover into a pile of debris.
I've also seen great use of one player hanging back and 'camping' in an area with good LOS and just spotting targets. When I have enough friends online playing to form a squad the Recon will throw his motion mines out ahead of us then take a position a couple hundred meters back from the objective and Spot enemies for us and give us early warnings for tanks/heli's. Works pretty well and in the event if all three of the 'fighters' die then we can spawn on him and get back in the fight.
So yes, camping is useful. You just need to know when to do it and when to move up.
Campin in BF?
I thought we had Tanks, Hellies, Drones, ReconBios, Tubes, Lawnchairs and Nades for that.
Campin in a house? Tank says; What house?
Campin in a tower? Tank yells: TIMBERRRRRRR!
I say that the only campin that you notice is due to bad leveldesign
(That Giant lighthosue in BC2Viet)
I thought we had Tanks, Hellies, Drones, ReconBios, Tubes, Lawnchairs and Nades for that.
Campin in a house? Tank says; What house?
Campin in a tower? Tank yells: TIMBERRRRRRR!
I say that the only campin that you notice is due to bad leveldesign
(That Giant lighthosue in BC2Viet)
I find Camping perfectly fine BF. For example, in Battlefield playing a sniper means you actually get to snipe. None of that Snipe from 5 feet away (LOL QUICKSCOPE) bullshit you find in CoD. The maps are big, so you if you want to play a sniper well you pick a good spot and stick to it for as long as you can before getting found out.
In CoD you just run and shoot people since the maps are so small sniping is useless. Even more so when the pistol is just as accurate as a sniper rifle.
In CoD you just run and shoot people since the maps are so small sniping is useless. Even more so when the pistol is just as accurate as a sniper rifle.
Snipers camp as part of their strategy. Camouflage is a big deal. But they're really not that hard to kill or just avoid.
Most buildings will fall down on top of you if they're not objective critical.
Add this to the 'spotting' thing and camping becomes part of the game which requires skill to master, instead of hindering gameplay. /imo
Most buildings will fall down on top of you if they're not objective critical.
Add this to the 'spotting' thing and camping becomes part of the game which requires skill to master, instead of hindering gameplay. /imo
