Is expressing an honest opinion offensive ?

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suicide samurai

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When I preface an opinion with, "can I be honest," I know that what I am going to say will offend the person. I also know that if I do not speak my mind and let issues lay as they are, I will only resent whatever it is the person is doing, or how they are conducting themself.

Being offensive to be offensive is a different matter, however, but it still has a virtue in our society.

Once we shut the mouth of one group, all groups will start to suffer. Sometimes those vocal ass-hats need to let themselves be seen, to show that they are the true minority.
 

Wereduck

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As long as you're reasonably careful not to insult or provoke your listener it's perfectly fine to state whatever opinion you wish - even if you don't believe it and you're just arguing a contrary opinion for the sake of discussion.

However, being deliberately inflammatory does not make you a hero - it makes you an asshole.

It is possible to think you're being reasonably tactful but still piss everyone off; one should learn from such experiences. It is just as possible to piss everyone off while making an insightful and important statement; sometimes we need to look past our emotional response.
The central issue here is: does believing in a controversial opinion entitle you to act like a jerk and expect praise for it?

Movie Bob did a Big Picture on political correctness a while back & it's worth watching (not worth me learning how to link it though) - not that his opinion proves anything but he does a good job of expressing my own opinion on manners vs. offending and when they're justified.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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It depends on the situation. If you walk into a room and there is an overweight person you don't point it out. It may be correct but the negative connotations will make that person uncomfortable. It's just considered rude.
 

Ashannon Blackthorn

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Fagotto said:
Ashannon Blackthorn said:
It comes down to this. "Do you believe in unfettered freedom of speech?" if yes, then it is never wrong to speak your opinion no matter how controversial or "wrong". But if you believe in freedom of speech with responsibility, then yes, some things can be wrong.
Freedom of speech has never really had to do anything with whether you OUGHT to say something or not, just whether you can.
Yes but that's not what I was getting at in regards to the OP. If you believe in total free speech, the idea of something being wrong doesn't exist. It can be in bad taste, offensive or stupid but it cannot be wrong. Because the minute you start attempting to censor it for any reason, it ceases to be total unfettered free speech.
 

Jorias

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Simple answer is to not give a shit what other people think, if you're 100% right and they are 100% wrong (and not paying you) fuck them.
 

ZeroMachine

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It sure as shit can be.

Let's say someone said something like "I honestly believe that black people are inferior," or "I honestly believe that you, OP, are an idiot."

Pretty sure that black people would be offended by the former and you by the latter.

(MODS: Just in case you're quickly browsing, I'll make this abundantly clear- the above statements are examples, and I definitely don't honestly believe either of them.)
 

Altorin

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It depends on what the opinion is.

If your honest opinion is that it's a nice day out today, then probably noone would take offense with that.

But if your honest opinion is that black people are lazy, then no matter how "honest" that opinion is, it's offensive
 

Last Hugh Alive

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Of course honesty can be offensive. Ever tried approaching someone, be it a friend or total stranger, and ask them to tell you exactly what they think of you in brutal honesty? It doesn't end well.

I've always seen honesty as something to be treated with responsibility. There's nothing wrong with honesty in and of itself, but it can be a powerful thing. Honesty can distinguish you from the crowd, or make you some enemies.
 

thylasos

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Depends if it's a stupid opinion. Who will it hurt? Aspects of people they can't change? That's pretty offensive.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Well I think part of it has to do with HOW you express that opinion. It seems many people, esp. on the Internet, seem unfamiliar with the concept of tact; as in being tactful.
Granted that's a lot harder to do when dealing strictly in text, and considering that like 50% of communication is how the message is received which is totally beyond your control; and some people will get offended no matter what you say or how you say it.
 

Ashannon Blackthorn

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Fagotto said:
Ashannon Blackthorn said:
Fagotto said:
Ashannon Blackthorn said:
It comes down to this. "Do you believe in unfettered freedom of speech?" if yes, then it is never wrong to speak your opinion no matter how controversial or "wrong". But if you believe in freedom of speech with responsibility, then yes, some things can be wrong.
Freedom of speech has never really had to do anything with whether you OUGHT to say something or not, just whether you can.
Yes but that's not what I was getting at in regards to the OP. If you believe in total free speech, the idea of something being wrong doesn't exist. It can be in bad taste, offensive or stupid but it cannot be wrong. Because the minute you start attempting to censor it for any reason, it ceases to be total unfettered free speech.
You're confusing considering something wrong with censoring it. You can consider it wrong and not censor it.
True. But I was getting the impression from the OP that he was linking the two. So if you feel something is wrong, you shouldn't be said. But again that was my interpretation.
 

McMullen

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"If you speak the truth, have a foot in the stirrup."

-Turkish proverb, quoted in Civilization IV

It is often socially unacceptable to say what you genuinely think or feel. For all the lip-service we pay to honesty, our culture is in a certain sense dependent on lies. If you say what you think, someone will eventually take offense at it and request that you refrain from voicing your opinion further. Free Speech usually gives you the right to continue if you want, but you have to weigh the tradeoff between expressing your opinion and burning any bridges that might be present.

The less you rely on others, the more honest you can be without repercussions. On the other hand, networking is the easiest and possibly most potent way to gain influence and power (power in this context meaning the ability to do what you want to do), so honesty can have a high price if you are indiscriminate with it. This is why politicians have to be habitual liars, because nearly all their power is based on their connections with a wide variety of people with different conflicting opinions. If they tell the truth, they slough off large portions of their base.

I think this is unfortunate. There are reasons to get offended at some disagreements, but I think people extend this tendency to issues where it's unnecessary, and now we have a society where we try as hard as possible to avoid conflicting viewpoints. I think this is part of why on the internet, suddenly relieved of the pressure against self-censorship, many people tend to go way off the other end with it and actively try to offend those who disagree with them.

But this is the culture we have, and it's not going to change quickly. I hope that the internet and the contact between viewpoints that it encourages causes a gradual change towards acceptance of different opinions, but it'll take time. I myself frequently fall into the traps mentioned above even though doing so runs counter to what I hope for, so it'll take some work.