Is gaming a dying fad?
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Back in 1995, Clifford Stoll wrote an article for Newsweek in which he basically stated that the Internet would be a passing fad. Among other things, he claimed that e-commerce was unviable due to there being no personal interaction with salespeople (which he calls the most essential ingredient of capitalism) and the lack of a trustworthy way to send money online. Here's the link to that article:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/106554/
Thirteen years later.....
They said the same thing about movies back in the 1910s and '20s, and about television in the 1940s and '50s. And about gaming in the 1980s and '90s. Trust me: gaming is not going anywhere. There may be a backlash against the commercialization of the industry (*cough*EA*cough*), but there will always be a very strong core gaming community to drive the industry forward.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/106554/
Thirteen years later.....
They said the same thing about movies back in the 1910s and '20s, and about television in the 1940s and '50s. And about gaming in the 1980s and '90s. Trust me: gaming is not going anywhere. There may be a backlash against the commercialization of the industry (*cough*EA*cough*), but there will always be a very strong core gaming community to drive the industry forward.
its going to grow, just you see,Ago Iterum post=9.76227.895638 said:A lot of people I have spoken to on this subject have had the same thing to say; "Where could gaming possibly go next?"
With gaming reaching visual and audial perfection, and many games becoming more of a chore than a fun pastime (For example, many MMOROG's, which seem more like part time jobs than games, jobs that you have to PAY for) I ask, how many more generations will it be before the attitude to gaming becomes more of a 'been there done that' kind of thing?
I began thinking these thoughts after the new Ratchet & Clank game was announced. I've been an avid fan since the original was released on the PS2. But on news of another 2 new ones for the PS3, I couldn't've cared less. It didn't excite me at all, and not only do I feel I won't buy the game, but I'm considering selling my consoles. I felt the same when the new Animal Crossing was announced for next month.
I need to know how you guys feel, is it just me? Or are games starting to become samey, and boring. I mean, we will never get back the amazing gaming experiences of the SNES, or PSone, will we?
Your thoughts, please
Wow, why has gaming become a "chore" or just "something to do"? This thread sounds like a whole bunch of people stuck in dead-end jobs having a mid-life crisis, not people who should be enjoying video games. The Ratchet & Clank games? Having only experienced Up Your Arsenal, I was super excited for Tools of Destruction (but I don't have a PS3), so I'm looking to play that in the future, Fallout 3 is a lot of fun...
Hmm, maybe it's a personality thing. I've had plenty of people tell me I throw the word "great" around a lot when I describe games. Unfortunately for them, I throw a subtle "Fuck you." in their direction when I tell them their inability to suspend their cynicism keeps them from enjoying a game to the fullest. I've only not had fun with a few games, and I've never looked back (GRAW was one, Vegas 2 was another, which is sad, because I loved R6 and Raven Shield).
Hmm, maybe it's a personality thing. I've had plenty of people tell me I throw the word "great" around a lot when I describe games. Unfortunately for them, I throw a subtle "Fuck you." in their direction when I tell them their inability to suspend their cynicism keeps them from enjoying a game to the fullest. I've only not had fun with a few games, and I've never looked back (GRAW was one, Vegas 2 was another, which is sad, because I loved R6 and Raven Shield).
Agreed... Online play isn't fun with most of the idiots encountered today... They detract from the whole experience... If it is a fading fad, then the area will be pure again...the monopoly guy said:
I think games and game genres should be like cable tv channels: intended for niche audiences. It's easier and more effective to please a niche audience than to try and please everyone. Developers have it hard enough thinking and creating new ways to stimulate the gaming population, but now they have to consider people who don't play games? What for? (rhetorically speaking that is. greedy bastards)MercFox1 said:
Would you offer existence to something that isn't?
Really, games are making as much if not more than hollywood productions, consoles are selling ridiculous numbers at ridiculous prices. Gaming is stronger than it has ever been. Crap games are part of the business, just as crap straight to dvd movies, and the homemade cd that weird kid down the street keeps trying to sell you. I am old enough to remember every console war, (coleco, intellivision anyone?) and I've bought my share of doomed technology (i do miss my jaguar) and have heard so many theories about the dying of video games. I remember in the 90's when all the arcades started folding and everybody was saying that console games couldn't support the industry and that we'd never see graphics as advanced as what was available then. The only way the gaming industry is going to take a hit is if someone high up starts listening to Jack Thompson's psychotic ramblings and gets the government to step in just like they did with the movie industry, the music industry, and the comics industry. Yes there's a lot of crap out there (two swords) but they still sell and they just make the great games that much better. Look at Bioshock, it was such a welcome relief from all of the crapfest FPS clone-a-thon that has permeated the industry. But if every game was like Bioshock then it wouldn't have been a big deal.
http://games.slashdot.org/games/04/12/19/2350234.shtml?tid=98&tid=10dijital101 said:
http://news.spong.com/article/14390/Hollywood_Gets_Games_Envy
Gaming has been larger than Hollywood since at least 2004; if I recall correctly, the game industry was still smaller than Hollywood circa 2000; I think today the industry continues to enjoy growth, global financial crisis notwithstanding.
Photorealism. Thousands of cores in a CPU.Ago Iterum said:
Mind Control?
http://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2007/03/07/mind-control-the-future-of-gaming/
Isn't that what we currently have, though? Games parallel the TV for they are both mediums; it's the game genres that are equivalent to cable channels.waffletaco said:
I think what you mean is developers shouldn't try to appeal to everyone's tastes, because that would be the equivalent to network TV - a bit of everything for everyone but the content is all over the map and too broad in scope?
You can't deny that there are developers that continue to develop "gamer" games - Gears of War 2 Killzone 2 and Left 4 Dead are evidence of this. I think it's just the recent influx of "casual" games that bothers you.
Just because one enjoys watching UFC and would like to knockout everyone on the cast from The Bold and the Beautiful doesn't mean both shows can't coexist in the cable TV industry, and I don't see how games are any different. They're different content for different audiences.
I think everything is fine the way it is. "Gamer" games will continue to be made regardless of the recent growth of the "casual" market simply because like cable TV, there is always a niche market to cater to with money to be made in the process. Just looking at PC sales you see the "casual" dominance of The Sims, coupled with the "hardcore" dominance of World of Warcraft topping the NPD charts month after month. Gamers of all sides won't be left out as long as there is a market for it and there is money to be made.
Speaking of, RIP King's Quest, Monkey Island, Larry Laffer and an entire genre of adventure games. The market has spoken, but some of us still miss you after all these years.
Honestly, anyone who thinks that gaming can go no-where should take a look at Ray-Tracing technology.
It's like the gaming industry had a big boost in sales that year. Wonder what did that? Must have been some game released that was kind of popular in certain demographics in certain segments of the audience.crimsondynamics said:
Gaming is heading toward what cinema is these days: you get your piles of generic crap that try to appease with sex, gunfights etc., but then comes this gem that kicks the norm up the arse and through the goal posts. Game developers do pump out large volumes of games in hope that one will hit the bullseye. To take a line out of ZP, what you're missing is "a beacon of excellent design philosophy in the dark, wild, piss-stained swamplands of the videogames industry".
Also, think about it: if you replaced "videogames" with "film", you could easily attach that line to your favourite recent film. The comparisons are there; movies' history is videogames' future.
Also, think about it: if you replaced "videogames" with "film", you could easily attach that line to your favourite recent film. The comparisons are there; movies' history is videogames' future.
Tbh you say that we pay to play, i for one say that paying for your own entertainment is fine aslong as it is a single payment, not a monthly payment.
I find that if your paying to entertain yourself monthly then you have not got much of a lifestyle and your bestfriend is Goblin that sits on your shoulder calling you king as you slice through a horde of Orks. While this is going on that girl you have been talking to and who you took a fancy too is now in my bed.........
I find that if your paying to entertain yourself monthly then you have not got much of a lifestyle and your bestfriend is Goblin that sits on your shoulder calling you king as you slice through a horde of Orks. While this is going on that girl you have been talking to and who you took a fancy too is now in my bed.........