Is ganking girl gamers a bad thing?

[God's Clown]

Ganking is stupid, regardless of who you are targeting. If you really need to get your kicks from annoying people just trying to level or farm then you need a new thing to get your kicks.

Writing an article about ganking is also stupid. As long as pvp is allowed ganking will happen, nobody is safe from it, woman, man, dog, cat, A.I controlled ion cannon, everybody can be a victim. Sure it can be considered harassment if you camp the person you ganked, which is also stupid, camping is for shooting games. Also trailer parks and camp grounds.

Short story short, article is stupid, ganking is stupid, A.I controlled Ion Cannons are dangerous, writer of article is stupid. Rape is serious business, ganking is not serious business, no comparison, shouldn't even try it.

 

[MisterColeman]

Angry angry angry angry angry angry.

Goood job, Kotaku did what it set out to do. You are its goon for talking about it at all. The only discussions about Kotaku worth having are that it is a terrible organization and nobody should go view their content.

 

[Hazy]

Is ganking guy gamers a bad thing?

Personally, I don't think ganking the opposite gender is nearly as big of an issue as people posting Kotaku links in a disillusion that they have a shred of journalistic credibility.

That's the real problem.

(This isn't an attack on the OP specifically, I'm just touching base in general. Come on people: they're the equivalent of a gaming tabloid. They even have the color scheme down.)

 

[anonymity88]

http://imgur.com/a/y8jII

Three guesses as to whether that was a real article or not.

As I stated three posts up, /v/ does not like Patricia Hernandez.

Oh god, those are hilarious. Its funny because the people mocking her writing style are doing it so accurately.

She is a truly terrible writer.

http://kotaku.com/5914348/three-words-i-said-to-the-man-i-defeated-in-gears-of-war-that-ill-never-say-again

"I raped you."

If words could lynch someone, then this was the moment for it. The post-game scoreboard said I had technically won, so I'd shown them all, right? No, no I hadn't. The avalanche of trash talk was one thing?you play online enough, you come to expect it?but the laughter, the laughter stripped meaning from my victory. The laughter made me feel like I was shrinking, like I was in danger of disappearing at any moment.

Again.

"I raped you."

The words weren't coming from them. No, they were coming from me. Me. The rape survivor. I was the one saying those words, which now hung tremulously in the air after they failed to find a target. Shaking, I got up from my seat and turned the Xbox off.

OT: The video poster is a complete creep, the whole section on inhabiting the mind of a female gamer left me feeling a bit disturbed tbh. At the end of the day, if you don't like supposed 'camwhores' then don't watch their twitch feeds and don't give them money. Behaving like this however on a public forum like youtube is what gives news outlets like Fix, The Sun et al. all the ammunition in the world when anything happens that they believe could be attributed to videogames in some form. It's a vicious cycle.

 

[rokkolpo]

If someone wants to kill you in a PvP server, his reasons/morals do not matter.
He has the right to murder you, because you chose to be there.

And let's not even look at the gender.
What happened here was that a Horde/Alliance member killed an Alliance/Horde member.
That's it.

If indeed he was sending inappropiate messages, that is bad.
But even then, the gender does not matter.

 

[bounty90]

I thought the video was really funny.

 

[Zeke63]

This behavior of hunting female characters in wow reminds of ramsay bolton in song of ice and fire. despciable it up

 

[Sixcess]

I must be half asleep. I glanced at the title of this thread again and thought it read "Is spanking girl gamers a bad thing?"

But that's an entirely different topic.

 

[PirateGoesYar]

Well, let's just change the scenario a little. What if he was singling out gamers for being of a different race, or religion? What if he was killing gamers who were Muslims or Christians? Would it be okay then?

Yes, of course it would because it's a pvp server and his reasoning doesn't matter. I've killed people because I don't like the foresaken race, and I've camped people for daring to roll night elf too. The reason doesn't matter.

I'd argue it does matter. It's a tricky issue (since at the end of the day we're talking about your pixels dying), but I think you have to distinguish a person's actions from their motivation.

Ganking a random player and they turn out to be a woman? In this case you're doing things to just generally make people's lives harder because you get some sort of satisfaction out of it. A little dicky IMO, but hey, it's what you sign up for when you roll pvp. (I was on a pvp server for years, never did much ganking myself, but I rolled with the punches).

Ganking a player *because* of their sex or race or religion? Now you're making someone's life harder because you have some problem with one of those things, which is disturbing. Again, the end result still isn't that horrible (pixels), but it's the motivation itself that's pretty awful.

It's the reason there's a distinction in courts for hate crimes, motivation matters.

 

[WeirdNut]

Had not the time to read every post of you guys but this guy made me laugh.
He is a very effective troll by focusing on subject of gender equality. I am not going to judge him for he does play the rules of WoW. His description of Gamergirls just makes him ab better troll.
Just wanted to thank the OP for posting this hilarious video and the reactions.

 

[Zeckt]

I watched the video, so he has fun ganking PEOPLE on a pvp server and particularly one that had a vendetta against him. He was merely issuing some payback. Notice how I was not mentioning gender? that's because it does not matter! you don't like it don't roll on a pvp server. So what if he targets females? if its suddenly an issue for them then that just shows how backwards we are in terms of equality.

I congratulate this guy on a well done bit of successful trolling. Way to ruffle some feathers! . Anything goes on pvp servers, That's why I roll pve myself. Can't take the heat get out of the fire gender be damned. Oh, and I would just rather be honest with how I think of someone rather then candy coat it. Patricia is an easily offended ***** and should shut up and talk about games rather then flip out like this.

 

[WindKnight]

If the guy was singling out female players and sending inappropriate messages to them. That there is definitely harassment by all its definition. But in a game where players stalk and murder each other all the time, is it wrong to do it then?


http://kotaku.com/5972869/faith-in-humanity-slowly-depleting-this-jerk-and-his-supporters-find-joy-in-harassing-women-gamers

Also I want to note I found the link to that article on Moviebob's blog The Overthinker. His opinion was less than favorable. Pretty much going so far as to make the man out to be the scum of the earth. I say the guy has issues, he isn't "evil!" lol:
http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/2013/01/i-dont-want-to-game-on-this-planet.html

the case you are quoting the gankers were targeting female gamers solely because they were female. and they wanted them to GTFO of their 'male space' for 'not playing the game properly'. That's bullying, victimising, misogyny and flat out 'being a s***-stain on the fabric of humanity' because you want others to keep out of 'your' special little place.

I'm all for equal opportunity ganking, but when your flat out bullying someone solely cause you have women (or other) issues, yeah, its indefensible.

 

[Hagi]

Wait? Is that video actually serious?

Because it's kinda triggering all my sarcasm alarms. I'm getting the impression that it's some sort of parody on people spending way too much time and effort on something minor.

I mean the whole process of selecting targets seems to potentially take up several hours, followed by a gank of a few minutes?

The only impression the video left on me was that it was all a joke, especially considering the rather dry voice narrating it. Not some sort of campaign motivated by hate, on the contrary it kinda seemed to make fun off people who go through such lengths to 'fight' against girl gamers.

For now I'll just conclude it's Poe's Law.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

I mean its no worse than ganking anybody else, but if that's the only reason you're singling them out your kind of a jerk. The again if you're singling out and ganking anyone, your intention is to be a jerk so I guess it accomplishes that pretty well.

 

[Colt47]

My question is how the heck does someone know the other players gender in real life when they are ganking them? All the gankers that I know are rather indiscriminate in their whole sale slaughter of youngish characters unless they are being cheeky.

 

[DanDanikov]

The way you phase it can seem benign 'ganking girl gamers'. There's no reason not to gank them in the normal flow of play.

The problem is always going to be when it is done specifically because they're female (sexism) or to excess to cause grief (harassment). There's no justification for either behaviours.

 

[CpT_x_Killsteal]

Is it a bad thing? Depends on how low your moral standards go, if you are part of a social group that accepts these sort of actions then you probably don't consider it bad at all, but any sort of civilized community wouldn't have anything to do with you.

That sir is the most subtle and insulting insult I have ever read in my whole life. Bravo sir, Bravo.

OT: Well if he's doing it purely because the players are women... yeah that's kinda sad. He needs to sort himself out.