Is Hitting A Girl All That Bad?
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Since I would hit someone if they hit me ,rather it be a guy or girl, I will hit back and call it fair.
People already said this, but I'll say it too; hitting anyone is bad. Hitting without a really damn good reason to be more specific. And "I was annoyed" is not a valid a reason, nor is "He/she mocked me/teased me/laughed at me". If we just started hitting each other every time something we don't like happened, we would be worse than any animal (we're the ones with brains and means of self-control). However, fights among siblings (when it's not real domestic abuse) is nothing to worry about. Me and my brother had our fair share of fights, with my brother mostly being the instigator (and usually the one who got punished, but as I'm four years younger and he was always three times my size, it's reasonable; it didn't have to do anything with gender really, more with the fact that due to size and age, he was just stronger and I ended up being hurt more. I could have barely scratched him, but he could have easily broken my arm). But sibling fighting happens.
Also, I oppose the social norm where boys have to "man up" and just shrug off being hit by a woman (or by anyone), especially if that woman is bigger, stronger or just doing it because she can't be punished. Hitting someone without distinct reason or for poor reasons (unrelated anger for example) and not in self defence is bad, regardless of gender. Even that self defence argument can't really be applied to any situation as in most of the situations when you get attacked, the best solution is to run away. And yeah, hitting among siblings also kinda doesn't fit the regular rule (if it's not genuine abuse or violence). I would slap my brother on the head, but I wouldn't do it to anyone else, man or woman.
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Also, I oppose the social norm where boys have to "man up" and just shrug off being hit by a woman (or by anyone), especially if that woman is bigger, stronger or just doing it because she can't be punished. Hitting someone without distinct reason or for poor reasons (unrelated anger for example) and not in self defence is bad, regardless of gender. Even that self defence argument can't really be applied to any situation as in most of the situations when you get attacked, the best solution is to run away. And yeah, hitting among siblings also kinda doesn't fit the regular rule (if it's not genuine abuse or violence). I would slap my brother on the head, but I wouldn't do it to anyone else, man or woman.
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Yeah, of course it's pretty bad. It's just a social no-no. In the OP's example, he reacted pretty much the way he's supposed to; without real violence. Pushing isn't nearly the same as, say, a sock in the face, and also I feel like being siblings changes things up a bit. Girls don't like the idea of getting punched (but then who would), and guys have an instinctual revulsion and violent reaction to that happening to girls. Even verbal insults that guys would shrug off, directed toward a girl, provokes that "white knight" mentality. I personally believe that abusive boyfriends and husbands are the scum of the damn Earth.
Let's put this in perspective, though: Snookie from the Jersey Shore? She was running her mouth, she was talking sh!t to a guy who was bigger, meaner and already had quite a few drinks in him. He was telling them to basically piss off and stop talking to him, but she just had to get her words in. She was surrounded by big dudes that like her (for some reason) and figured she could say whatever she wanted to anybody with no repercussions. She learned quick.
Now if one of those douchebag guys had been leaning over, talking sh!t to a stranger and yelling in his ear, even longtime watchers would have figured he deserved it. Snookie, though? She's got a vagina, therefore "that's not cool bro" and it's totally OK to then hunt down the guy. I'm not saying it's exactly the same thing, but it does make me think. Scum is scum, and bar fights are bar fights, regardless of the genders of the people involved.
Let's put this in perspective, though: Snookie from the Jersey Shore? She was running her mouth, she was talking sh!t to a guy who was bigger, meaner and already had quite a few drinks in him. He was telling them to basically piss off and stop talking to him, but she just had to get her words in. She was surrounded by big dudes that like her (for some reason) and figured she could say whatever she wanted to anybody with no repercussions. She learned quick.
Now if one of those douchebag guys had been leaning over, talking sh!t to a stranger and yelling in his ear, even longtime watchers would have figured he deserved it. Snookie, though? She's got a vagina, therefore "that's not cool bro" and it's totally OK to then hunt down the guy. I'm not saying it's exactly the same thing, but it does make me think. Scum is scum, and bar fights are bar fights, regardless of the genders of the people involved.
Because a lot of guys with a low brain:muscle ratio will hit you way harder and way more times.
It is WRONG to hit ANYONE - especially if there is a size disparity but no excuse if you are a similar size or even smaller.
But it is DUMB to hit a girl as some thug will take that as his queue to paint the sidewalk with your face. It's not logic, it's emotions, animal instincts even. Wrath is inspired in them when potential mates are harmed.
Now hitting someone in self-defence it has to be such a situation where hitting back is actually the best way to defend yourself.
"fighting" is not about self defence, it is barely tolerable when two similarly capable men get into fisticuffs but when it is man vs woman more often it just ends up as domestic abuse with the man
OP: you have a height advantage and I bet you have higher muscle:fat ratio than your sister. You shouldn't hit anyone, ever*. Especially your sister, and if you argue you DEFINITELY should not try to "solve" it by getting physical.
(*unless you really have no choice to prevent more serious physical harm = Self defence)
It is WRONG to hit ANYONE - especially if there is a size disparity but no excuse if you are a similar size or even smaller.
But it is DUMB to hit a girl as some thug will take that as his queue to paint the sidewalk with your face. It's not logic, it's emotions, animal instincts even. Wrath is inspired in them when potential mates are harmed.
Now hitting someone in self-defence it has to be such a situation where hitting back is actually the best way to defend yourself.
"fighting" is not about self defence, it is barely tolerable when two similarly capable men get into fisticuffs but when it is man vs woman more often it just ends up as domestic abuse with the man
OP: you have a height advantage and I bet you have higher muscle:fat ratio than your sister. You shouldn't hit anyone, ever*. Especially your sister, and if you argue you DEFINITELY should not try to "solve" it by getting physical.
(*unless you really have no choice to prevent more serious physical harm = Self defence)
If a woman strikes first, it's completely fair game.
Doesn't matter if the guy is 7 feet tall, anyone who thinks the guy is in the wrong is implying that women are too stupid to know that they'll lose a fight to someone who's physically stronger. The reason the average guy doesn't go around instigating fights with bodybuilders is because he knows he'll get the shit beat out of him, and knows that no one would sympathize with him if he acted that way, so how are women allowed a free pass just because they're weaker?
If you're physically weak, then YOU are the one who needs to worry about that, not the person who you're hitting. To place blame on the guy would be to remove personal accountability from the woman, and the last thing women need is less responsibility, what with the whole equality thing and all.
Doesn't matter if the guy is 7 feet tall, anyone who thinks the guy is in the wrong is implying that women are too stupid to know that they'll lose a fight to someone who's physically stronger. The reason the average guy doesn't go around instigating fights with bodybuilders is because he knows he'll get the shit beat out of him, and knows that no one would sympathize with him if he acted that way, so how are women allowed a free pass just because they're weaker?
If you're physically weak, then YOU are the one who needs to worry about that, not the person who you're hitting. To place blame on the guy would be to remove personal accountability from the woman, and the last thing women need is less responsibility, what with the whole equality thing and all.
Unless if its a truly threatening situation.....then yeah, It's really REALLY bad to hit a girl. Yeah, some women may aggravate us to the point of insanity, but hitting a women, I don't care if the male and female are around the same size, it's insane to think "oh hey, we're the same size, its a fair fight". Not only is it sickening, its also the most ungentlemanly thing someone can do.
Hitting anyone isn't really a great idea. But there's definitely a difference between hitting with intent to hurt or abuse, and just playful roughhousing. Girls don't always want to be treated like delicate flowers, but you should certainly know if you're being abusive.
A real woman, a "lady" if you will, would never act in such a way to make such a decision necessary for a man.Andothul said:
Oh, and an important thing to note: If you do get in a physical altercation with a woman, don't listen to these white knights about "the proper way" to restrain them.
I've even heard people say that, even in cases of a real assault, you should refrain from hitting them and pin them to the ground as a last resort. Never ever ever do this.
First, it will look like you're raping her.
Second, because of the rape thing mentioned above, any chance of her being charged with "assault" will probably be thrown out.
Third, being pinned to the ground (which might have jagged rocks and pieces of glass everywhere) by someone bigger than you hurts a hell of a lot more than a simple backhand to the face.
Moral of the story: Don't hang around crazy bitches who think they can get away with putting their hands on other people simply because of their gender. Any woman who thinks that way is trash.
yeah its fine to hit women but only in so far as its fine to hit anyone else I am tired of the whole don't hit a girl, gotta put the seat down, hold the door open for women crap it is just holdovers from when women were treated like childbearing furniture and I think it should be don't hit anyone with out reason, leave the seat however you damn well please I'm perfectly capable of putting it down myself, holding the door open for anyone is a courtesy
same size, same weight, same muscle proportion. How is that not a fair fight? You sound sexistHaseo21 said:
Well, I GET TO DO MY HISTORY BUFF THING AGAIN! That was a warning, the rest of this post is going to involve WHY hitting a girl is bad if your a gentlemen, why it really ISN'T bad, and what makes a gentlemen, so you were FAR warned.
That is the gist of why society looks down on hitting woman, of course, hitting is still a very, very bad thing to begin with, but if you ever wondered where society started to think it as bad, YOU NOW KNOW! I'm not saying go punch every woman in the face, but treat them like you would like, if you don't want to be punched when their angry, don't punch them while your angry, its just that simple.
All right, around the time of the mid-evil era and before, woman were looked on as fragile flowers, and their only role or purpose during those times were to make babies and to make the men happy. This continued FAR into a large percent of history. Woman weren't exactly TREATED the best back then either, getting punched, kicked, abused or tortured if they did not fit the evil role society locked into them.
Around renascence and to the American revolution, people started to become more sophisticated, so a NEW role were placed on woman to be house wives and live the atomic family dream. Less atomic during the renascence but it was starting to progress more into a house wife setting instead of a sex slave setting. This was basically offering them a little bit more freedom, then, the WOMAN'S RIGHTS REVOLUTION!
This was basically to where woman EVERYWHERE wanted more rights that were originally dedicated to men, such as voting, or jobs, and better education. You can see how this turned out by turning to your local news station or visiting any fine retailer. Woman were more free then EVER before, but there is, of course, a snag.
You see, gentlemen are honorable men, and since woman were looked on as the most fragile gender, they were never to do anything unjust to a woman, such as hitting. Now back to current date, they were more free, but societies view of them didn't exactly change too quickly. Sure they were getting what they wanted, but men still thought them to be delicate, so men didn't exactly treat them as they would their male buddies.
Around renascence and to the American revolution, people started to become more sophisticated, so a NEW role were placed on woman to be house wives and live the atomic family dream. Less atomic during the renascence but it was starting to progress more into a house wife setting instead of a sex slave setting. This was basically offering them a little bit more freedom, then, the WOMAN'S RIGHTS REVOLUTION!
This was basically to where woman EVERYWHERE wanted more rights that were originally dedicated to men, such as voting, or jobs, and better education. You can see how this turned out by turning to your local news station or visiting any fine retailer. Woman were more free then EVER before, but there is, of course, a snag.
You see, gentlemen are honorable men, and since woman were looked on as the most fragile gender, they were never to do anything unjust to a woman, such as hitting. Now back to current date, they were more free, but societies view of them didn't exactly change too quickly. Sure they were getting what they wanted, but men still thought them to be delicate, so men didn't exactly treat them as they would their male buddies.
Aren't woman more dexterious then the average male? They can endure child birth, after all. Hitting a person is not a bad thing, but if you don't want a fight, then don't DO it.DarthScorpio11 said: