I hit no one. I've been punched in the face twice, each time i said something along the lines of "I forgive you". I'm 6'2" and 190 pounds so me letting some one off the hook for hitting my is merciful. Woman or man I wont hit them.
Is Hitting A Girl All That Bad?
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It's a hilarious subject this. Because if you hit a girl, people say "BAD SHOW CHAP, YOU MUST NEVER HIT A GIRL!" But it's fine to hit men? What ever happened to equal treatment? Why is it fine to hit men, but not women if they are so equal?
If I was in the situation, I wouldn't a hit a woman, out of fear she will call me a lady beater. If she was holding a gun to me, I probably still wouldn't hit her for that reason, i'd get a lot more shtick if I wailed on her.
I'm not a pacifist, but I wouldn't hit anyone really. But I guess if a woman did attack me, I'd defend myself to the best of my abilities.
If I was in the situation, I wouldn't a hit a woman, out of fear she will call me a lady beater. If she was holding a gun to me, I probably still wouldn't hit her for that reason, i'd get a lot more shtick if I wailed on her.
I'm not a pacifist, but I wouldn't hit anyone really. But I guess if a woman did attack me, I'd defend myself to the best of my abilities.
Well, I think in general you should try not to hit anyone unless in a sports environment, or in self defence. If your sister is cool with it, though, it isn't so bad, not unless you start doing it in relationships with girls who aren't cool with it (but possibly just take it and cries when they are alone). That is when it starts getting ugly.
Basically yes, I'm sorry for being that one-sided on this issue but yeah, hitting girls is bad no matter the situation!
Maybe when it is your sister some leniency is allowed, after all you grew up together, so I can understand you pushing her.
But hitting girls plain looks bad and it looks especially bad if you are the smaller looking as you said you were - that way you'd look more like the over-compensating, women hating jerk in the eyes of others!
We have a saying in Bulgaria, it goes - You don't hit women even with a flower!
Next time a woman pisses you off - and it will happen just do as Chris Rock does:
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Maybe when it is your sister some leniency is allowed, after all you grew up together, so I can understand you pushing her.
But hitting girls plain looks bad and it looks especially bad if you are the smaller looking as you said you were - that way you'd look more like the over-compensating, women hating jerk in the eyes of others!
We have a saying in Bulgaria, it goes - You don't hit women even with a flower!
Next time a woman pisses you off - and it will happen just do as Chris Rock does:
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I disagree with using physical force unless no other option is given or viable.
That said, I consider myself a gentleman. In today's terms, I believe a gentleman is one who treats a female as an equal. In which case, striking one who leaves you no other option except violence is still a chivalrous act.
That said, I consider myself a gentleman. In today's terms, I believe a gentleman is one who treats a female as an equal. In which case, striking one who leaves you no other option except violence is still a chivalrous act.
I might be a little old fashion in my ways but yeah pretty much. I don't like hitting girls or seeing girls being hit, its one of my very few berserk buttons. I don't care if a girl hits a girl however a boy hitting a girl? no. I don't know if its a sexist thing, I don't have any qualms with women being treated like equals but I don't know, I just get this feeling that I need to protect women and stop bad things from happening to them. I just can't sit there and watch a girl getting beaten up nor have I in the past.
Now I don't mind pushing as I don't think pushing is hitting, dragging or stuff like that... Not too bad with however actually hitting or beating... Nope low.
That being said, I think brother sister stuff is a little different and I'm not too harsh on that.
Now I don't mind pushing as I don't think pushing is hitting, dragging or stuff like that... Not too bad with however actually hitting or beating... Nope low.
That being said, I think brother sister stuff is a little different and I'm not too harsh on that.
I firmly believe in the equality of sexes. That means that if a girl punches me in the face, I reserve myself the right to *****-slap her, even if the feminists are going to whine about it (they wanted equality? well that doesn't mean you have the right to beat men up without consequences).
So yeah, I find the "hitting a girl is wrong" statement awfully stupid and hypocritical in that regard.
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Woah, this seems incredibly fitting.
So yeah, I find the "hitting a girl is wrong" statement awfully stupid and hypocritical in that regard.
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Woah, this seems incredibly fitting.
I think it would be legitimately difficult to attack 50% of the people you see.Coldflame727 said:
You should never hit anybody except in self-defense.
There is a certain tolerance for violence against (and among) men in this society. Like it's a right of passage. Fine by me, if two idiots wanna play fight club, so be it, but more often than not people are beaten involuntarily. And there I don't see any difference between hitting a guy who doesn't wanna get hit and hitting a girl who doesn't wanna get hit.
It's a bit like the trope "Rape is funny when it's woman on man".
I used to box for a couple of years and I've sparred with girls (there's usually not enough women in boxing gyms to avoid pairing them with guys all the time). I have no problem with hitting men or women who step in the ring with me.
Girls tend to be a lot smaller and (supposedly) fragile on average and that seems to invoke more of sense of injustice, but in the end, if a 6'2" / 180 lbs. guy gets beaten up it doesn't make it any less wrong.
There is a certain tolerance for violence against (and among) men in this society. Like it's a right of passage. Fine by me, if two idiots wanna play fight club, so be it, but more often than not people are beaten involuntarily. And there I don't see any difference between hitting a guy who doesn't wanna get hit and hitting a girl who doesn't wanna get hit.
It's a bit like the trope "Rape is funny when it's woman on man".
I used to box for a couple of years and I've sparred with girls (there's usually not enough women in boxing gyms to avoid pairing them with guys all the time). I have no problem with hitting men or women who step in the ring with me.
Girls tend to be a lot smaller and (supposedly) fragile on average and that seems to invoke more of sense of injustice, but in the end, if a 6'2" / 180 lbs. guy gets beaten up it doesn't make it any less wrong.
To start off with, resorting to honest physical violence to solve a problem is barbaric and immature, and I'd never employ it in anything other than a defensive capacity. That said, I go by a weight and build rule when it comes to women. I'll respond with an equal amount of force as I would for a man of the same size weight and build.
Example: OP is 5'7" and 112 lbs. I'm the same height but outweigh him by about 50 lbs, and that's from a fair few hours at the gym. I think most people would agree that (barring any of the self defense training either of us may have had) if he attacked, I could probably restrain him, or otherwise resolve the conflict without excessive force. Bingo, we both walk away with much less in the way of injuries than if I where to have simply retaliated with every last ounce of strength and brutality I'm capable of. Sounds like a good way to de-escalate a situation, no? Well, a few months that exact situation happened to me, except that it was a girl that was the same height weight and build as OP (no offense intended, OP, but it fits the example). Now, had she, or a guy, been equal to me in strength and size, most certainly would have responded with a lot more force than I would have with this girl, or OP, and I would do so regardless of gender.
Long story short: Don't be a brute, know your strength, how to control it, and how to respond to a violent situation with appropriate force. If you can do that you'll be just fine. Gender won't really matter, and if it does, the complaining party is probably not worth very much.
P.S. For what it's worth OP, if a girl proportionally sized to me as your sister was to you blocked my path and wouldn't let me pass after repeated attempts to do so without a physical altercation, I'd probably shove her out of the way too.
Whew, looong first post, sorry for the wall-o-text people, and congrats if you got through the whole thing.
Example: OP is 5'7" and 112 lbs. I'm the same height but outweigh him by about 50 lbs, and that's from a fair few hours at the gym. I think most people would agree that (barring any of the self defense training either of us may have had) if he attacked, I could probably restrain him, or otherwise resolve the conflict without excessive force. Bingo, we both walk away with much less in the way of injuries than if I where to have simply retaliated with every last ounce of strength and brutality I'm capable of. Sounds like a good way to de-escalate a situation, no? Well, a few months that exact situation happened to me, except that it was a girl that was the same height weight and build as OP (no offense intended, OP, but it fits the example). Now, had she, or a guy, been equal to me in strength and size, most certainly would have responded with a lot more force than I would have with this girl, or OP, and I would do so regardless of gender.
Long story short: Don't be a brute, know your strength, how to control it, and how to respond to a violent situation with appropriate force. If you can do that you'll be just fine. Gender won't really matter, and if it does, the complaining party is probably not worth very much.
P.S. For what it's worth OP, if a girl proportionally sized to me as your sister was to you blocked my path and wouldn't let me pass after repeated attempts to do so without a physical altercation, I'd probably shove her out of the way too.
Whew, looong first post, sorry for the wall-o-text people, and congrats if you got through the whole thing.
(Reads OP)
Fair enough.
The stigma has more to do with tradition, but it still IS rooted in logic. Generally, men are larger and stronger than women, which is why in each of those cases it is wrong for a man to hit a woman. But it should not be taken to such extremes where a man is condemned for self-defence against a woman, just because she's a woman and he's a man.
Still, I believe (and please excuse me ladies, as I'm making some assumptions here, and no offence meant) that even if a woman has the same weight and height as a man, she will still be muscularly weaker (maybe not significantly, but enough to be a factor) and structurally not built for combat (I don't want to use the word "fragile", especially since many uniquely female traits are there to protect them and a developing child during pregnancy).
Finally, and this will be a point along the lines of MovieBob's "In a perfect world it wouldn't have to be like this. But we don't live in a perfect world, now do we?".
Basically, if a man's face is scarred from a fight, then at best it will get him respect from his peers, and at worst it will make it difficult (but nowhere near impossible) for him to get some types of jobs. If the same happens to a woman, then she will always be at a severe disadvantage, as women are still (unfortunately) judged heavily by their looks, in both their professional and personal lives.
Fair enough.
The stigma has more to do with tradition, but it still IS rooted in logic. Generally, men are larger and stronger than women, which is why in each of those cases it is wrong for a man to hit a woman. But it should not be taken to such extremes where a man is condemned for self-defence against a woman, just because she's a woman and he's a man.
Still, I believe (and please excuse me ladies, as I'm making some assumptions here, and no offence meant) that even if a woman has the same weight and height as a man, she will still be muscularly weaker (maybe not significantly, but enough to be a factor) and structurally not built for combat (I don't want to use the word "fragile", especially since many uniquely female traits are there to protect them and a developing child during pregnancy).
Finally, and this will be a point along the lines of MovieBob's "In a perfect world it wouldn't have to be like this. But we don't live in a perfect world, now do we?".
Basically, if a man's face is scarred from a fight, then at best it will get him respect from his peers, and at worst it will make it difficult (but nowhere near impossible) for him to get some types of jobs. If the same happens to a woman, then she will always be at a severe disadvantage, as women are still (unfortunately) judged heavily by their looks, in both their professional and personal lives.
The whole "never hit a woman" thing started as a campaign against domestic violence. As domestic violence was (and still is) an under-reported crime, certain groups sought to bring into the public psyche that the idea of hitting a woman is in itself unmanly and emasculating as a way to lower the frequency of abuse.
The campaign was successful, as evidenced by the fact so few people know there even was a campaign, and so many know it's inherently "wrong" to hit a girl. Likely it succeeded because of the appeal to easily maintained pride, and ostracism. (It's easy to not hit a girl, it's easy to dislike a guy who hits his wife)
This was not a bad thing, as the result was a decrease in domestic violence. Though it does persist in culture now as a form of sexist stereotype. (Women are weaker than men, so THAT'S why you shouldn't hit them) (Yes it is a stereotype, and it is sexist. You're defining a massive group of people by their gender, and a specific widely varying characteristic. It may TEND to be true or it may not, but either way it's inherently sexist and a stereotype.)
My personal take on it is that violence is to be avoided, but acting in self-defense is justified, regardless of genders. Strength and size isn't actually that relevant. It's morally wrong to assault another person, in my view, with the sole exceptions of either self-defense or the defense of another.
The campaign was successful, as evidenced by the fact so few people know there even was a campaign, and so many know it's inherently "wrong" to hit a girl. Likely it succeeded because of the appeal to easily maintained pride, and ostracism. (It's easy to not hit a girl, it's easy to dislike a guy who hits his wife)
This was not a bad thing, as the result was a decrease in domestic violence. Though it does persist in culture now as a form of sexist stereotype. (Women are weaker than men, so THAT'S why you shouldn't hit them) (Yes it is a stereotype, and it is sexist. You're defining a massive group of people by their gender, and a specific widely varying characteristic. It may TEND to be true or it may not, but either way it's inherently sexist and a stereotype.)
My personal take on it is that violence is to be avoided, but acting in self-defense is justified, regardless of genders. Strength and size isn't actually that relevant. It's morally wrong to assault another person, in my view, with the sole exceptions of either self-defense or the defense of another.
Really, how is it any worse than hitting a guy?
Of course, unless it's to defend someone you shouldn't be hitting anyone.
Of course, unless it's to defend someone you shouldn't be hitting anyone.
I would never hit a girl. Not because she is a girl but because she is a human being. However, given the scenario you described, yes it's not always that the girl is the vulnerable one. It depends on the situation. However, I think that in most cases, the male is physically superior and that's certainly where this assumption comes from.
There are studies showing that women might be more aggressive than men, biologically, and that's certainly interesting.
There are studies showing that women might be more aggressive than men, biologically, and that's certainly interesting.
Be a gentleman sir! A lady must strike you before you can retaliate, though if you tell her this and she fetches a heavy object be very careful.