Is Instant Teleportation Possible?
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Normally when I'm just looking around on the forums, and i see a question that I know/have an idea about I'll usually open it in a new tab and read the poster's point/counterpoint/question/etc. just so I know where they are coming from, if that isn't how I pictured it based on the title, I'll either post with info based on their post, or close the tab and continue on to the next thread that interests me
Interesting try but would be better if you burried the true question in a bit more writing.
As for the topic question, complicated if we are soloy physical, imposible if we have a soul. How:
Any 'teleportation' requires information transfer and then a reconstruction at the destination. Say we can transport info and build near instant, you are still 'consturcting' a copy and would end up with an exact time copy on the other end (assumedly vapourizing the original). I am sure you can already see the issue here.
You are no longer 'yourself' really, your body continues to live on but wither it is you or not really does depend on what makes you you, wither it is a soul (and wither that soul transfers instantly into the copy) or wither it is a part of your physical body that makes you you. As souls tend to be seen as highly individual then 'Soul' option is impossible (and could really prove if we have one, at least in the sense that the part of us that makes us us exsists outside the physical world). The 'Physical' option however is more possible but has the trouble of just how to avoid two of you and if you will be concious of both if the original was not destroyed.
Now this is where I hide something witty to enforce what I suggested with hiding it in deeper discussions and may or maynot prove of disprove your point depending on what bodies decide to do when reading this, or even what you yourself decide to do if you follow up on the discussion. I would also suggest quoting but removing my whole comment so that others don't catch on.
Which brings us to Quantum Physics which has another option. There is a possiblity of folding space time and basically walking the half a foot distance into the destination site. This would not infact break any laws of sceince exsisting as the relitive distance traveled may seem to be massive to an indipendent observer (Thus breaking lightspeed) but to the person actually doing the action the space has been folded such that it falls with-in the allowances of physics. This is known to the world at large as Worm Holes, and is being examined in many ways, one of which being the Large Hadron Collider.
I hope this enlightens others and I would suggest not just taking what i say as Gospel truth if you are interested in the top but doing a bit more reading to be sure.
As for the topic question, complicated if we are soloy physical, imposible if we have a soul. How:
Any 'teleportation' requires information transfer and then a reconstruction at the destination. Say we can transport info and build near instant, you are still 'consturcting' a copy and would end up with an exact time copy on the other end (assumedly vapourizing the original). I am sure you can already see the issue here.
You are no longer 'yourself' really, your body continues to live on but wither it is you or not really does depend on what makes you you, wither it is a soul (and wither that soul transfers instantly into the copy) or wither it is a part of your physical body that makes you you. As souls tend to be seen as highly individual then 'Soul' option is impossible (and could really prove if we have one, at least in the sense that the part of us that makes us us exsists outside the physical world). The 'Physical' option however is more possible but has the trouble of just how to avoid two of you and if you will be concious of both if the original was not destroyed.
Now this is where I hide something witty to enforce what I suggested with hiding it in deeper discussions and may or maynot prove of disprove your point depending on what bodies decide to do when reading this, or even what you yourself decide to do if you follow up on the discussion. I would also suggest quoting but removing my whole comment so that others don't catch on.
Which brings us to Quantum Physics which has another option. There is a possiblity of folding space time and basically walking the half a foot distance into the destination site. This would not infact break any laws of sceince exsisting as the relitive distance traveled may seem to be massive to an indipendent observer (Thus breaking lightspeed) but to the person actually doing the action the space has been folded such that it falls with-in the allowances of physics. This is known to the world at large as Worm Holes, and is being examined in many ways, one of which being the Large Hadron Collider.
I hope this enlightens others and I would suggest not just taking what i say as Gospel truth if you are interested in the top but doing a bit more reading to be sure.
well, if you want the whole scientific thing.. here it is
Yes, it is possible, scientists in 2010 manage to teleport some atoms across a gap of 5 metres. However, these were incredibly small and required vast amounts of energy. It has not been tested on any molecule or larger items however to teleport would require a large number of strongly charged electrons. Though it has been possible, it will still be quite a while before larger particles can be successfully ported.
The biggest problem with teleportation is that it basically destroys the charge between the molecules so they "disintergrate" or "vapourize", this is the easy part, its putting these charges back together that is the problem. Breaking it down is like destroying a large puzzle, it needs to be pieced back together after moving it.
The problem with this is that it could work with metals and natural elements due to the atomic structure, however, biological matter such as people are alot more complicated.
Chances are, if teleports are created for human usage soon, it could cause mutations as the cells have to be rematerialised after being broken down. This could form cancerous cells.
Instant teleportation is debatable, if a structure is very complex, then it may take a long time to materialise... if the thing is living, it will probably die since the cell configuration can be mixed up. You never know what could happen though...
There is no date on when teleports will be availiable, but it could be in a couple of dozen years (or longer/ shorter since no one knows top secret government research). When it will be availiable, it will be exceedingly expensive and dangerous.
Yes, it is possible, scientists in 2010 manage to teleport some atoms across a gap of 5 metres. However, these were incredibly small and required vast amounts of energy. It has not been tested on any molecule or larger items however to teleport would require a large number of strongly charged electrons. Though it has been possible, it will still be quite a while before larger particles can be successfully ported.
The biggest problem with teleportation is that it basically destroys the charge between the molecules so they "disintergrate" or "vapourize", this is the easy part, its putting these charges back together that is the problem. Breaking it down is like destroying a large puzzle, it needs to be pieced back together after moving it.
The problem with this is that it could work with metals and natural elements due to the atomic structure, however, biological matter such as people are alot more complicated.
Chances are, if teleports are created for human usage soon, it could cause mutations as the cells have to be rematerialised after being broken down. This could form cancerous cells.
Instant teleportation is debatable, if a structure is very complex, then it may take a long time to materialise... if the thing is living, it will probably die since the cell configuration can be mixed up. You never know what could happen though...
There is no date on when teleports will be availiable, but it could be in a couple of dozen years (or longer/ shorter since no one knows top secret government research). When it will be availiable, it will be exceedingly expensive and dangerous.
Seeing as I always read the OP of a thread, you won't get me with this trick.
Pretty clever, though. You get kudos.
Pretty clever, though. You get kudos.
I think I saw somewhere that some lab nerds teleported very small particles.
And I usually read the first page of something before posting, usually that is.
And I usually read the first page of something before posting, usually that is.
Aw, and I was totally prepared to argue about the lightspeed-cap of transporting information versus quantum entanglement topic and the transporting vs cloning thing and now this... you made me very sad today, I hope you get run over by a my little pony.
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Hmm, I'm trying to figure out which part of that is the worst. I mean, would I be content being a pretentious twat, if I was original? Unoriginal twat, but at least not pretentious. Hmm.tthor said:
Sadly I think all possible variations would ultimately have a high amount of twattery.
The most facepalmingly stupid example of this phenomenon I read was in a thread where the title said something like "Help, my friend won't talk to me because I'm gay".
However in the opening paragraph, the OP revealed that his straight friend reacted badly and has stopped talking to him because, the OP revealed his sexuality by making a pass at his straight friend and unexpectedly trying to have sex with him.
Most people only read the title and proceed to wax lyrical about how how you don't need a friend who is a "homophobe", and if he was a true friend he would accept him for who he is, yet by not reading the crucial information about how events went down, the basic sentiment of the thread was:
"If your friend was any kind of friend at all, he would have had sex with you regardless of his own sexuality. You don't need friends who won't let you stick your cock in their arse".
With regards to this thread's title, I say define "instant" and define "teleportation".
When I'm on the phone to my brother, his voice appears to be instantly teleported from Cornwall to Blackpool, although in reality there is probably a slight delay and his voice isn't teleported, but converted and transported.
However, in Star Trek the same basic theory is applied to their Transporters, i.e. someone's body is converted into "data" or something, transmitted to another location in a beam or wave, them re-constituted back into their original form... although even that doesn't occur "instantly".
However in the opening paragraph, the OP revealed that his straight friend reacted badly and has stopped talking to him because, the OP revealed his sexuality by making a pass at his straight friend and unexpectedly trying to have sex with him.
Most people only read the title and proceed to wax lyrical about how how you don't need a friend who is a "homophobe", and if he was a true friend he would accept him for who he is, yet by not reading the crucial information about how events went down, the basic sentiment of the thread was:
"If your friend was any kind of friend at all, he would have had sex with you regardless of his own sexuality. You don't need friends who won't let you stick your cock in their arse".
With regards to this thread's title, I say define "instant" and define "teleportation".
When I'm on the phone to my brother, his voice appears to be instantly teleported from Cornwall to Blackpool, although in reality there is probably a slight delay and his voice isn't teleported, but converted and transported.
However, in Star Trek the same basic theory is applied to their Transporters, i.e. someone's body is converted into "data" or something, transmitted to another location in a beam or wave, them re-constituted back into their original form... although even that doesn't occur "instantly".
If you really want to know about teleportation, drop an email to the University of Queensland's School of Physics. They were teleporting photons in '02.
I find that the fault of the creator of the thread, a title is supposed to be representative for the text especially if raised as a question. It is not the responsibility of the escapistee to read any further if the title seems to clearly say it all.
How did they proved that? As a physicist (well I'm still just a struggling student) myself, I really want to know that. There is no way to distinguish a particular photon from another. Say the photons were at point A and then originated from point B. Then there is no way of telling wetter the photons originated from B were the photons 'teleported' from point A. To me it seems much more plausible that new photons were created at point B.RhombusHatesYou said:
Can you send me the article? PM me if you want an email address.
