Is it discrimination to treat Handicapped people better than the rest of us?

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Brainpaint

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Having an autism spectrum disorder on the high functioning end of the scale, I am classed as being disabled, but I'm aware enough to know when I'm clearly being discriminated against. Talking down to me feels like the biggest insult. Treating me like I don't know better when I clearly do. It even happens to those with physical disabilites. Their minds are those of your average person but their bodies aren't able to keep up. They're not toddlers. A deaf person understands words fine. They just can't hear them. It's different from my disorder but it's still the same issue. That is the most common form of disability discrimination. I can't read facial expressions very well. I'll yell out loud when it isn't my turn to speak, I'll talk in polite company about the state of my urinary tract. I don't care about that even though I should. But that doesn't mean you're better than me, oh fictional discriminator.

Firstly:
How would you feel if you were in the parking space next to someone who needed a wheelchair? They wouldn't be able to get out and if they did your car would probably get its fair share of dings. It's for the benefit of BOTH parties that there be wider, separate spaces for he physically disabled or injured.
Hell, here in the UK we've got PARENT parking spaces since they need the extra space for baby buggies. It just makes sense.

Secondly:
It's NOT okay to laugh at someone because they look "funny". You might not know it but they could have a disorder that made their face that way or received an injury to make it that way. And if it was you with that face, how would you feel?

Thirdly:
I've had my fair share of seeing ugly people on TV, these folks usually deserve it. Jeremy Kyle is a gallery of people as ugly outside as they are inside. I'm sometimes called ugly. But oddly enough it's only by ugly people that try too damn hard to hide it. Oh, I don't mean physically ugly, not all the time. But I look a hell sight better than they do considering I'm not TRYING to look good. There's a difference between ugly and not caring. And I tend to not care if people are ugly unless they have the twisted belief that they are better than me because they dressed up for the camera. Cancer or no cancer? If I had cancer I wouldn't give a DAMN what I looked like even MORE! I'd be too focussed on getting better. And considering how much Americans have to pay for healthcare,she probably couldn't afford anything else anyway. THAT'S why it's not okay to insult her for being ugly. If you were sick and dying you'd look like shit, too. It's not like she'd be able to afford cosmetic destistry or a nose job when she's not sure how long and how costly her treatment will be.

Lastly:
Don't say you don't discriminate. You're lumping everyone with a disability together and referring to them by an outdated and insulting term. It's not as bad as the R word but it's about level to calling a black person a "Negro". It's not as harmful as the full N word. It's Spanish for Black. But it's still a bad idea to call someone by it.
I'm not at a complete disadvantage. There have been plenty of times in my life where I have outshone an "average" person. Someone you call "normal" even though the idea of perfection is about as realistic as flying unicorns that fart Lucky Charms.
 

retyopy

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Treat them with more care. But don't give them special privileges above what is necessary.
 

Iron Mal

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Before I get into the full bulk of my answer I should probably outline my opinion on equality in general just to help avoid confusion (and to avoid me sounding like a weapons-grade arsehole for no reason).

The way I view it, equality is a pretty binary thing (you're either equal or you aren't, it's not like there are degrees or tiers of equalness and it's not like equality has a clear unit of measurement) and in order for everyone to be equal it is vital that no-one be given any special bonuses or treatment and that all double standards or stereotypes should be opposed and fought against (not just the ones we consider offensive).

If you're really going to strive for equality then it has to be done properly, making nice and telling everyone they're special and lionising the 'virtues of diversity' doesn't make people equal, in my experience it just makes some people feel hard done by and others feel entitled which in turn just fuels any pre-existing conflicts and disgruntlement.

Back to the topic at hand though, disability is sort of a difficult sub-topic in the equality debate because sometimes there actually are legitimiate reasons to discriminate against disabled people (you don't have to modify a building to enable access to ethnic minorities or women and while I'm sure most disabled people are perfectly nice people, there is sort of a reason it is considered a bad thing, hence we call it being disabled), I think that we should do our best to help the disabled whenever we can (I'm not sure most of us would be able to deal with the difficulties forced upon them every day) but we need to realise that there's only so much that we can do and that we actually should do.

By all means we should oppose things like name calling and mockery of the disabled (like I said, they deserve the same level of dignity and respect the rest of us do) but when it comes to things like discrimination in the work place it needs to be kept in mind that there are sometimes reasons why posessing a disability is frowned upon (I know how this is going to sound and I honestly mean no offence when I say this but it is sadly true that someone who's legs no longer work is technically a lesser person compared to me, a fully healthy person, as such, it wouldn't be suprising if I was a preferable choice for a lot of things because of this).
 

Something Amyss

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I'm surprised this topic is still going.

And still a little disheartened that people regard handicapped parking as treating people with disabilities "better" than able folks. I'm not even sure why this is an issue.

OH SHIT DAWG, HE'S GOT A PARKING SPOT! WE'RE TREATING THEM LIKE KINGS!

Now, I know what the usual response is: But Zachary, (token example here). Lovely. Beautiful for your friend. There are folks who don't want any help, and there are folks who can't get by without it. A few examples of the former does not negate the latter. It also doesn't mean that simply affording a spot for someone is treating them "better." Boo hoo. I have to walk fifteen feet instead of ten.

Jeeze, are you guys mad about lynching laws because they predominantly protected blacks? I mean, sure, people were dying, but damn, I hate "discrimination!"
 

Dutch 924

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There's nothing wrong with this, but if people don't do it, they're worried they'll be accused of discrimination
 

SonOfVoorhees

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BanicRhys said:
As I see it, catering to the special needs of handicapped people (the parking spaces) is not discrimination.

Giving a handicapped person an advantage in any real competition (job interviews, contests, sports etc) is discrimination.
I would of said something similar to this comment, so, what he said.
 

llew

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Skoosh said:
I don't like when special needs kids get full excuse for everything. They need even more structure than normal kids, don't let them get away with atrocious behavior. If he doesn't know any better, teach him. Yes, its harder, but not impossible. Don't give up the moment you hear a diagnosis.

I don't completely agree with everything in your post though. Equality is overrated. We are all different, with different strengths and weaknesses. We don't have to treat everyone the same to be fair. I'm not going to make the guy in a wheelchair take the stairs or a dude with a broken leg park half a mile from the door.
ok you took every word out of my mouth you damn ninja ¬.¬ so yeah basically this.