Is it normal to rage at Fallout 3 ??

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Joey Corlett

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Well is it?

Between some rather annoying missions and the V.A.T.S. fucking me over sometimes... I would just like to know if it's normal.

Also btw I only just bought Fallout 3 two days ago.
 

Easton Dark

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Only if it's glitching you out the ass. On PS3, Mothership Zeta would not start for the life of me. I had to delete the game data before it would stop freezing on the intro scene. That's when you can rage.

For regular gameplay? Eh. I may have once or twice. It would have solely been the result of Feral Ghoul Reavers and Tribals though. The missions are fun and VATS is super accurate most of the time.
 

Daniel Forman

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Yes, yes it is. Glitches is something that should not be something they should force onto us >.>
 

AlternatePFG

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Story, writing, and lore quality makes me rage hard.

Other than that, I find it to be a very enjoyable game. I just stay far away from the main plot.

Gameplay? Eh, VATS is kinda glitchy at points, you can't rely on it all the time. As for annoying missions, are there any ones in specific you are referring to?
 

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If you're a fan of Fallout and Fallout 2, then yes, whenever you see something that would have been much, much better with a Tim Cain or a Christopher Taylor involved, or a location which would have been much better with a Matt morgan soundtrack or even a place whihc would look much better with a Leonard Boyarsky in charge, then it's perfectly right to rage.

Every five minutes.
 

Hamish Durie

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welp speaking as some1 who did zeta first had no saves then went on to the pit and thought to myself *RAWR SMASH KILLS* even before i had a proper weapon and then got in a position where the questgivers and the gaurds all wanted to kill me i went back to a save annnnnnnnd it wasn't there and last save i had was at the start of zeta..........

zeta was repedative and lacking now imagine doing it twice....and then a third time after fallout3 decided to soo how far it could push me......
 

Rawne1980

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Don't get angry, get even.

Every time you feel yourself getting angry at a game take a hammer to your computer and teach it not to cross you.

Pretty soon all your anger will be gone.

And all that will be left is a feeling of foolishness that not only did you just mush your computer like a fool, you got angry at a game.

Although I will grant you that Fallout 3 is buggy as hell and there are times you want to hunt down the whole team who worked on it and beat them with your gamepad so they share your pain.
 

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The combat system is stupid, the voice acting is bad, the writing is bad, the characters are not interesting, the choices either have 100% predictable consequences or are completely meaningless..... it just doesn't feel like Fallout.

Worst....sequel....evar....
 

Ragsnstitches

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No... you need help.

Seriously though, the game is more stable now then on it's initial release, the story is bland but not infuriating, the voice acting is poor, but skippable.

If the game isn't your cup of tea (i.e, if you don't like Statistic based shooters) then that's your own issue, not the games issue.

For those of you who hate on it for being a "poor" sequel... just remember that the franchise went to shit for several games after Fallout 2, and bethesda actually brought it back to a tolerable and competent standard... and gave it a much needed redesign (Isometric Turn Based Rpgs do not age well).

People who rage about the bugs in F3, forget that F2 was a mess initially, and most of the game breaking bugs never got fixed by the official team.

You have no reason to rage at this game.
 

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Ragsnstitches said:
NFor those of you who hate on it for being a "poor" sequel... just remember that the franchise went to shit for several games after Fallout 2, and bethesda actually brought it back to a tolerable and competent standard... and gave it a much needed redesign (Isometric Turn Based Rpgs do not age well).

You have no reason to rage at this game.
I appreciate Bethesda bringing back the series, but with the terrible quality of writing and lore in comparison to the earlier games in the series (Tactics and BOS excluded of course), there is plenty of reasons to rage.

Like said in my earlier post, I still think it's an amazing game, but only when you avoid the main storyline at all costs.
 

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Ragsnstitches said:
Seriously though, the game is more stable now then on it's initial release, the story is bland but not infuriating, the voice acting is poor, but skippable.
No Little Lamplight is infuriating.

Ragsnstitches said:
For those of you who hate on it for being a "poor" sequel... just remember that the franchise went to shit for several games after Fallout 2, and bethesda actually brought it back to a tolerable and competent standard... and gave it a much needed redesign (Isometric Turn Based Rpgs do not age well).
Thats like saying Transformers 3 is a good movie because its better than Transformers 2. They are still both laughably bad.

Ragsnstitches said:
People who rage about the bugs in F3, forget that F2 was a mess initially, and most of the game breaking bugs never got fixed by the official team.
Mess of game breaking bugs? As someone who only played the completely unpatched F2, there was no 'game breaking' bugs. Worst one was the car disappearing bug, you had lots of minor ones but other than the wierd item count bug (which i have heard corrupts saves but never had anyone talk about it first hand), which is not a huge deal considering you manually saved everything anyway so at worst you lost some progress.

Though the bugs were fixed by the official team just not an official release as Interplay went through its big mess of financial problems at the time and meant they had no QA to actually release a patch and as a result needed to wait until the layoffs before releasing them.

Ragsnstitches said:
You have no reason to rage at this game.
Says... you?
 

Joey Corlett

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AlternatePFG said:
As for annoying missions, are there any ones in specific you are referring to?
Erm i'm at the beginning part of the Wasteland Survival Guide you have to like put some thing in a Mireluk's like baby maker, but you can't kill any of them.

Maybe with me being a retard and not being able to remeber how to get in and back out again, but with one hit of Mireluk's worth of health it began to get very frustrating when I kept dying becasue I was lost and getting chased by 5 mireluk's
 

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It isn't normal to rage about videogames at all. They don't matter, at all, they are totally unimportant.
 

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Joey Corlett said:
AlternatePFG said:
As for annoying missions, are there any ones in specific you are referring to?
Erm i'm at the beginning part of the Wasteland Survival Guide you have to like put some thing in a Mireluk's like baby maker, but you can't kill any of them.

Maybe with me being a retard and not being able to remeber how to get in and back out again, but with one hit of Mireluk's worth of health it began to get very frustrating when I kept dying becasue I was lost and getting chased by 5 mireluk's
Ah that. I just killed the Mirelurks. According to the wiki, if you have followers, you can have them kill the Mirelurks and you still can get the optional reward.
 

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I didn't, I raged on a few crashes but after fixing them I found it to be quite an easy game, especially after the game gives you decent energy weapons.
 

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Joey Corlett said:
Well is it?

Between some rather annoying missions and the V.A.T.S. fucking me over sometimes... I would just like to know if it's normal.

Also btw I only just bought Fallout 3 two days ago.
Mod the crap out of it.
Grab the community mods that fix issues and known bugs that the patches didn't, it'll run more smoothly.
The patches give about 50% more content (user created).
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It's normal to rage at a buggy game that keeps on crashing.
 

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AlternatePFG said:
Ragsnstitches said:
NFor those of you who hate on it for being a "poor" sequel... just remember that the franchise went to shit for several games after Fallout 2, and bethesda actually brought it back to a tolerable and competent standard... and gave it a much needed redesign (Isometric Turn Based Rpgs do not age well).

You have no reason to rage at this game.
I appreciate Bethesda bringing back the series, but with the terrible quality of writing and lore in comparison to the earlier games in the series (Tactics and BOS excluded of course), there is plenty of reasons to rage.

Like said in my earlier post, I still think it's an amazing game, but only when you avoid the main storyline at all costs.
The lore of Fallout was ruined in Fallout 2. Fallout 1 was a darkly humorous take on the Mad Max style post apocalyptic world, while also taking influences from various other Sci-Fi sources. It had some culture references, but for the most part the humour was tied to the writing, not gimmicky random encounters.

Fallout 2 was a parody of itself, wrapped in in-jokes and crammed with tongue in cheek cultural references. The story was passable, while it was intriguing at first, the more the enclave were developed, the more I lost interest... the joke got old fast.

EDIT: I would like to add that Fallout 2 was actually a better game (bugs aside) then Fallout 1... but it was a crap sequel in terms keeping with the themes.

Fallout 3 tried to emulate Fallout 1 more then 2, but ended up trying the take the Enclave seriously... which actually did it more harm. Not to mention they attempted humour... bethesda don't do humour very well.

kingcom said:
Ragsnstitches said:
For those of you who hate on it for being a "poor" sequel... just remember that the franchise went to shit for several games after Fallout 2, and bethesda actually brought it back to a tolerable and competent standard... and gave it a much needed redesign (Isometric Turn Based Rpgs do not age well).
Thats like saying Transformers 3 is a good movie because its better than Transformers 2. They are still both laughably bad.
Why are you posting on a topic about fallout 3... if you hate the fallout franchise altogether?
 

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Ragsnstitches said:
Why are you posting on a topic about fallout 3... if you hate the fallout franchise altogether?
Because I...like the fallout franchise?
 

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Ragsnstitches said:
The lore of Fallout was ruined in Fallout 2. Fallout 1 was a darkly humorous take on the Mad Max style post apocalyptic world, while also taking influences from various other Sci-Fi sources. It had some culture references, but for the most part the humour was tied to the writing, not gimmicky random encounters.

Fallout 2 was a parody of itself, wrapped in in-jokes and crammed with tongue in cheek cultural references. The story was passable, while it was intriguing at first, the more the enclave were developed, the more I lost interest... the joke got old fast.

EDIT: I would like to add that Fallout 2 was actually a better game (bugs aside) then Fallout 1... but it was a crap sequel in terms keeping with the themes.

Fallout 3 tried to emulate Fallout 1 more then 2, but ended up trying the take the Enclave seriously... which actually did it more harm. Not to mention they attempted humour... bethesda don't do humour very well.
Good point. True, Fallout 2 was much more reference heavy and silly than the first game. I don't think the main story of 2 is really great either, but the writing was at the very least solid for many of the characters surrounding it and there was not nearly as many plot holes. Fallout 2 is a better game than the first I would agree. It's much more fleshed out than the first game was (Fallout 1 was rather short, especially with the time limit) It think the writing did what it was aiming for well, as it was a funny game. Fallout 3's attempts at doing a serious storyline were laughable at best.

As for lore, there were some really weird and out of place things in Fallout 2. (Talking Deathclaws?) At least it expanded on it interesting ways, where 3 just kind of boiled it down to the most basic archetypes and went with it. The somewhat ambiguous Brotherhood became knights in shining armor, Super Mutants became generic orcs. It just seemed like the game was too black and white for a serious attempt at a Fallout game, but that's just me.
 

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I raged on my first attempt at the end, but for reasons I can't say without spoiling it (and because I just didn't know what I had to do).

But luckily I tried again and I was made very happy...beyond that the game's freezing did grind my gears, but this was the 360 so maybe it happens more on other consoles (as it only happened once or twice).