Is it normal to rage at Fallout 3 ??

[GraveeKing]

Three good reasons to rage:
-Glitches fucking you over and making you miss important shots with limited ammo types etc
-Random crashing just before you were about to save after a long travel overground with no auto-saves
-Just wandering around normally then... OMG WTF IT'S A ENEMY MUCH HIGHER LEVEL THAN YOU'RE USED TO AND YOU'RE NOW INSTANTLY DEAD.

Those are pretty much the only good reasons.

 

[ChupathingyX]

It's not the gameplay and bugs of Fallout 3 that confused me or amde me rage, it was the lore, writing, story and characters.

As for lore, there were some really weird and out of place things in Fallout 2. (Talking Deathclaws?) At least it expanded on it interesting ways, where 3 just kind of boiled it down to the most basic archetypes and went with it. The somewhat ambiguous Brotherhood became knights in shining armor, Super Mutants became generic orcs. It just seemed like the game was too black and white for a serious attempt at a Fallout game, but that's just me.

No, that isn't just you, I think that way too. Fallout 2 had some stupid things and those things were the inspiration for the Wild Wasteland trait in NV (a smart move).

Besides, who didn't love this guy?

 

[snakeakaossi]

Can I add that I don't find it normal at all to rage at anything that is for your entertainment? Seriously, if you rage at a game, you've bought the wrong game.

You rage at it, because it conditioned you by giving rewards for certain actions and not giving you a reward whilst you did do the action. If you rage, take a deep breath and consider if you should keep on playing, even if you paid full price. Since you only recently bought it, probably on discount, full price won't be a reason to keep playing.

 

[Vault101]

eh Id say generally it was a very well recived game

and quite frankly die hard F1 and F2 fans can take their ranting elsewere (plus I loved the story for falllout 3)

 

[ChupathingyX]

eh Id say generally it was a very well recived game

and quite frankly die hard F1 and F2 fans can take their ranting elsewere (plus I loved the story for falllout 3)

It isn't ranting if you give legitimate and thought out reasons as to why you did't enjoy the game.

Also, I'm not attacking you or anything, but what did you like about Fallout 3's story?

 

[Sebenko]

It's not the gameplay and bugs of Fallout 3 that confused me or amde me rage, it was the lore, writing, story and characters.

As for lore, there were some really weird and out of place things in Fallout 2. (Talking Deathclaws?) At least it expanded on it interesting ways, where 3 just kind of boiled it down to the most basic archetypes and went with it. The somewhat ambiguous Brotherhood became knights in shining armor, Super Mutants became generic orcs. It just seemed like the game was too black and white for a serious attempt at a Fallout game, but that's just me.

No, that isn't just you, I think that way too. Fallout 2 had some stupid things and those things were the inspiration for the Wild Wasteland trait in NV (a smart move).

Besides, who didn't love this guy?

It's closer to a Fallout game than 3 was.

I didn't realise how much F3 pissed on the previous games until I played NV.

Remember all those things that happened? Rebuilding? Solving problems? Creating nations?
In F3 all anyone had managed was building a few sheds. The five people building a water purifier really doesn't count when there's the NCR building whole nations in the previous games. I'm not going to list all the things I disliked about F3 though, otherwise I'd be here all day. I'll admit it was an enjoyable game, it certaintly wasn't an enjoyable Fallout game, though.

And don't you dare speak ill of Goris. ************ had more character than any of the useless companions in F3. Also, he was a motherfucking deathclaw.

 

[loc978]

Can I add that I don't find it normal at all to rage at anything that is for your entertainment? Seriously, if you rage at a game, you've bought the wrong game.

You rage at it, because it conditioned you by giving rewards for certain actions and not giving you a reward whilst you did do the action. If you rage, take a deep breath and consider if you should keep on playing, even if you paid full price. Since you only recently bought it, probably on discount, full price won't be a reason to keep playing.

pretty much my thoughts on the thing as well. I have some fairly serious issues with what Bethesda did to the lore of the franchise, but the gameplay was as solid as one could expect of such an open-world yet physics-dependent game. All-in-all, Fallout 3 was great, especially with mods.

People who rage about the bugs in F3, forget that F2 was a mess initially, and most of the game breaking bugs never got fixed by the official team.

Mess of game breaking bugs? As someone who only played the completely unpatched F2, there was no 'game breaking' bugs. Worst one was the car disappearing bug, you had lots of minor ones but other than the wierd item count bug (which i have heard corrupts saves but never had anyone talk about it first hand), which is not a huge deal considering you manually saved everything anyway so at worst you lost some progress.

You want a game-breaking bug in Fallout 2? How about the one where you can waltz into Navarro at level 1, beat the guard to death without breaking a sweat and be issued a suit of advanced power armor (and a plasma rifle, power fist and super sledgehammer)? Without the restoration mod, that game is ridiculously easy, if you know what you're doing...

 

[Hugga_Bear]

At it's story? Yes. If you played the first or F2 then Fallout 3's story was mind numbingly stupid. Plus I took personal issue with the shittiness of the ending where Optimus Prime (erm, sorry, Liberty) does everything for you. Yay.

At the bugs? Oh yeah. All day and all night. As a PS3 user I was particularly fucked over by their shitty bugs. Half the DLC doesn't work, the other half is buggy as hell.

Oh and Broken Steel makes the game a dull fest. Enemies now turn into bullet sponges. Yay.

Don't get me wrong, I like BethSoft and I'm glad they brought Fallout back but...could they have done it a bit better?? It's why I like New Vegas more, it returns to a lot of it's roots, particularly with dealing with the BoS (ie making them the wankers they are and not hippies).

 

[Astoria]

I don't get annoyed often but when you can't take more than five steps without TWO giant radscorpions attacking you it can get a bit infuriating. Apart from that just the glitches and being unable to skip talking straight away if you're retrying a speech challenge.

 

[ruben6f]

I rage in every game even when I am winning but yes there are annoying missions in fallout 3 that made me rage and VATS likes to kick me in the face sometimes.

 

[ChupathingyX]

And don't you dare speak ill of Goris. ************ had more character than any of the useless companions in F3. Also, he was a motherfucking deathclaw.

Thinking of a character with more personality than the companions in Fallout 3 isn't very difficult. Those companions were as bland as they come, even Rex had more background story than those companions.

 

[Liudeius]

No?
V.A.T.S. messes up for you?
I find it easiest to get a shishkebab and the Chinese stealth suit then just sneak attack everything. It's kind of cheap, but it gets the job done.

Turning off Autosaving has prevented me from getting any further game-freezing glitches though if that's a problem. (It will be soon enough)

Now something like Assassin's Creed where everything is context sensitive and it randomly decides to not let you attack (or run) even though the only action mapped to square is attack... That's something over which a bit of controller breaking is justified.

 

[Robert Ewing]

On the back, it should say 'patients required.'

The game does get very tedious, requires a lot of patients, awareness, and patients. It will have a lot of useless missions that require you to trek half way across the wasteland for a specific breed of lemon, then come back only to find it was the wrong lemon, then you need to go back and get another one.

But the game is really fun apart from those few annoying missions. I recommend you get the point lookout DLC. Hilarious stuff there, really fun DLC, with a lot of easter eggs.

Prospoiler

Spoiler

your character get's hella' high on spores

 

[Booze Zombie]

Fallout 3 has a lot of issues people learn to ignore... but personally I just play New Vegas instead, it's a lot more fun, IMO.

 

[uzo]

Hmm .. the Mirelurks under the Anchorage Memorial? It's easy. You run in, stick the recorder in the eggs, and run out. What were you trying to do? Negotiate with them?

And as for the difficulty .. yeah, it's harder than Duke Nukem if that's what you mean. I play FO3 with a bunch of mods that are actually designed to make it *harder* because I found it, frankly, too much like a standard FPS for my liking.

I'm a big fan of Arwen's Realism Mods - the med tech is absoultely great (totally revamps damage system, applies thirst/hunger/sleep requirements, and healing is a serious issue as you need to carry bandages, morphine, blood packs, medical braces, tourniquets, etc). Another big issue with FO3 is that radiation should have been a HELLUVA lot more threatening in the vanilla game. FFS, your father's life work was trying to sort out a source of clean water which would revolutionise the DC Wasteland, and possibly even lead to the entire world crawling its way back from Oblivion (lol see what I did there?) -- and yet radiation was rarely little more than a minor inconvenience. Something along the lines of 'oh shit eh? radiation poison? I honestly hadn't noticed'. Arwen's Realism Mod makes radiation a crippling risk, and the simple fact is (due to you now needing to eat and drink quite regularly) makes locating a reliable, clean water supply DAMNED important - and the simple fact is that throughout most of the game (until you have ammassed quite a fortune) you will be struggling to balance food and water intake vs. the radiation killing you from eating that radroach. Also, you will NEVER go for a swim. Makes rad-x and the radiation suit vital for several times.

There's a heap of others; try these for a taste:

Arwen's Realism Mod (see above)
Fellout (removes the dust, makes the Wasteland 'clearer' and night time muuuch darker)
Enhanced Weather (radioactive rain will ruin your day. I mean it)

Bingo. You've just upgraded a mediocre Oblivion-with-guns into a game that resembles a survivalist's wet dream.

And a little advice - the Anchorage Memorial is a great place to base yourself for a while. Once you've cleared out the Mirelurks, there's a bed and plenty of place for storage. Also close to Rivet City and Megaton and Downtown. That is if you don't bother with helping the schmucks in Megaton (if you work for Tenpenny, the simple annoyance there is Tenpenny Tower is sooo damned far from anywhere).

Frankly, I can't play vanilla FO3 anymore. The apocalyptic wasteland feels like I'm strolling around Wagga Wagga - the most dangerous thing you'll face is not having a ticket out of that damned town.

EDIT: Arwen's Mod also ups the damage for all firearms. If you hit a raider in the head with pretty much anything he's donna die. Unfortunately, likewise for you. Keep your head down.

 

[reiem531]

No, Fallout 3 is easy as balls.

 

[zenoaugustus]

This is why sequels and fanbases run things into the ground. Everyone needs to chill the fuck out.


Is it a good stand alone game? Yes or no. That's it. Do you like it or not?
And for the record, that's a matter of opinion.


Fallout 3 is a good game. I enjoyed many of the things some posters above have ridiculed. Does that make them wrong or me wrong? No, we are all equally opinionated and probably equally as biased based on what we revere.

 

[Liudeius]

As for annoying missions, are there any ones in specific you are referring to?

Erm i'm at the beginning part of the Wasteland Survival Guide you have to like put some thing in a Mireluk's like baby maker, but you can't kill any of them.

There's actually an egg clutch in the river right outside the monument, you didn't even need to enter it.

And it's not like it's the main quest, just move on if something is giving you too much grief.

No, Fallout 3 is easy as balls.

Turn the difficulty slider to max, free aim everything like an FPS (no stealth suit + melee), now repeat what you just said.

 

[Lt. Vinciti]

I raged maybe 1-4x during a playthrough on the PS3 GotY version


1. I got attacked at basically lvl 2 by an Enclave guy
2. I got attacked by a Super Mutant Overlord @ ~lvl 2

Both of these were in the span of ~15min+

I never had as much trouble with it as most

My brother still rages about how the Radscorps would freeze if you VATS'd em

 

[Vault101]

eh Id say generally it was a very well recived game

and quite frankly die hard F1 and F2 fans can take their ranting elsewere (plus I loved the story for falllout 3)

It isn't ranting if you give legitimate and thought out reasons as to why you did't enjoy the game.

Also, I'm not attacking you or anything, but what did you like about Fallout 3's story?

oh..its you

I'm not saying your WONG I'm just saying I found hearing the fans of the older gaes complaing about FO3 got annoying (plus game wise turn based combat makes me want to stab my eyes out)

anyway I get it F1 and 2 were amazing blah blah blah point completley taken

anyway I liked growing up in the vault, the emotional connection i had with the events, I mean your dad is one of the few good epople left in the world...and his disapearence and all that, my charachter had a clear place in the world...its hard to explain but I was totally into the story

I will say that the story isnt much without the DLC (the ending..yeah)

is the game perfect? no, and yes the companions were all rather dull when they didnt need to be (I mean they could have been good charachters had you actualy been able to talk to them like you could your NV companions....in fact your NV companions feel like such huge parts of the story that it feels emtpy if you imagine NV without them...where as FO3 ones...yeah you get the Idea)