Is it normal to rage at Fallout 3 ??

[The Last Nomad]

I never had any problems with it, but I've heard of people who have in various ways. But it's perfectly normal to rage at a game, any game, no matter how mind-bogglingly good people consider it to be.

 

[Echo136]

I dont quite understand the glitch problem. Ive beaten the game twice. Probably put more than 200+ hours into playing the game, and I saw more glitches in the first 10 minutes of Fallout New Vegas on CONSOLE than I did on Fallout 3 on PC.

 

[LeQuack_Is_Back]

My sister still hasn't come back to it after her save glitched in operation anchorage. I told her to have lots of saves....

 

[GrimSheeper]

Story, writing, and lore quality makes me rage hard.

I see your avatar being a real T-51b Power Armor helmet. Good show sir, someone has to remember where that new stuff came from.

My only problem with Fallout 3 is probably the main quest and the way everything is so much friendlier and easier than what you would expect from the Fallout games. You're decked out from pretty much the start and it only gets easier.

 

[LandoCristo]

Huh. I really liked Fallout 3. I played the Steam GOTY edition, so although it crashed a few times, any levels I had to redo were because I wasn't saving often enough. The combat is fun, and most of the missions were interesting enough for me to WANT to do them. I may have raged at one or two times where the enemies were a little too tough for me at the time, but with some clever kiting and lots of quicksaves, I was able to get past all of them.

 

[azraelthor]

. However once NV came out and I played that I can't go back to F3. But that's just because I was never as emotionally invested with the Lone Wanderer as I was with the Courier

...I just... what... really? A random jerk that got shot in the head resonated more with you than a character you got to see and experience grow up? The protagonist of Fallout 3 even had a goal; the Courier just kind of wandered around and had plot happen to him.

Your dad in that game is an ass who has lied to you all your life, and rather then spend time with you he wanders out into the wasteland to accomplish something that he never could actually do. I hated my father for leaving me in that piece of shit vault and was glad when he died. Now in NV that SOB Benny shot me in the head and he need to pay, once I settled that I got to choose the fate of an entire nations worth the people, I was important and the choices I made had a real impact, none of that purifying water bullshit, everyone is surviving just fine one the water they have. Also The Courier wasn't a random jerk he was who I wanted him to be, not some punk ass kid who grew up in a way that makes it really difficult to roleplay some of the ways I like to

 

[stormcrow5]

I actualy had no problems with FO3, minor stuff here and there but nothing worth mentioning or to ruin the game

 

[Stall]

I thought you were raging at it because it was a pile of overrated crap by one of the most overrated developers in the history of gaming. The main story is crap, there is a severe lack of side quests (almost all of which are crap), the visuals are muddy and uninteresting, not to mention the plethora of bugs that the pathetic fucking lazy developers refuse to fix and dump the responsibility on their community, and the overall design abhorrent as well. It's a terrible, terrible game, and the simple fact that the game receives so much praise reflects terribly on the gaming community as a whole. I'll throw in a few more terrible just to drive home the point: terrible, terrible, terrible. It was a horrible game, even by Bethesda's post-Morrowind pathetic and low standards.

But I guess its fine to rage at what the OP is raging at as well...

 

[Life_Is_A_Mess]

Well, the crashes and glitches are the only things that annoyed me, or saving not often enough. The rest of the game for me was pretty good.
Oh and two words: Little Lamplight... Seriously when you get there you'll foam at the mouth with anger and frustration...

 

[Vrach]

Can't say it is. I know I literally never have.

 

[mizushinzui]

I think I raged more at New Vegas, but that was chiefly because I bought it on release and the bug patches hadn't been released yet. I love the mechanics of the newer fallout games (since they are exactly the same between games) but they have both been buggy as all hell, mainly because they're huuuuge.

I think that the really annoying thing that stopped me playing NV where the fact that I once had my camera stuck, so I could literally not look around any more, and when I got the second DLC pack and tried to play through it it kept glitching out like a champ.

Unfortunately NV was stolen, but that copy was for the 360 which I am leaving at home when I move away this September, I'm tempted to get number 3 for ps3 (which I am taking with me) again because I haven't played the DLC for that one and I feel that having 100% trophies before a patch makes me feel soulless and empty afterwards when the percentage drops.

I don't think I'm re-purchasing NV though, I already payed for two sets of DLC once and the story isn't anything that I can seriously consider replaying through.

 

[Misterian]

From what I gather, it's mostly the veteran Fallout fans that played the first 2 Fallouts that rage on 3.

I personally don't get why, I played the first 2 once I got my hands on them, and that was after I played 3, and comparing the 2 PC games with F3, I personally found F3 to be in some ways better.

But then, I played Fallout 3 on my 360, and I'm not used to PC gaming, but I found Fallouts 1 and 2 pretty hard to figure out.

For instance, with Fallout 1, I went to the one Vault that was marked on my map where I'm supposed to find a Water Chip, I couldn't find it anywhere (even though I got a leather jacket and a SMG as reward for my effort), so I decided to head to what I think is Junktown, I went and talked to the 1 merchant (I forgot his name) who had a 'talking head' seqeunce on him and when I finished, a bunch of thugs suddenly arrived and started attacking, when I pulled out my weapon to fight back at the thugs,the merchant and his buddies started attacking me!

Was this a glitch? or was there something I missed?

Anyway, I still personally enjoy Fallout 3 better than I do Fallouts 1 and 2 (even if veteran Fallout fans might kill me for this) it might be due to it being on console, but this is a Fallout game the Bethesta gave the same engine that Oblivion had, and I can't think of a better way to improve a game francise than with taking the Oblivion route, it (in my opinion) made combat feel less clunky (I still can't figure out how to reload a gun in F1 and F2 mid-battle and the action point system gets tedious at the worst posiible moments), it's easier and quicker to use non-combat skills, everything just felt smoother and straight-forward.

It's not that I hate the first 2 Fallouts, as I said I haven't really figured them out completely, but Fallout 3's got great atmosphere, well-told storyline, decent gameplay, and there alot less you have to figure out in order to play it.

Fallout 3 does have some issues regarding glitches, but they're few and far between.

 

[snakeakaossi]

Can I add that I don't find it normal at all to rage at anything that is for your entertainment?

Spoken like a man that has never played SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPER MEAT BOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYY!!!

I have, it made me rage, I quit. I've never played it further until half way through the hospital level. F that game, seriously.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

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Not one of those is "game breaking" sorry, hyperbole for the fail. I mean seriously, you say "game breaking" then you give me a list that includes spelling corrections.

-Fixed the leaving maps with party member crash. This could potentially fix
lots and lots of thing out there since it was killing memory at this
point(this is what helps fix the cars).

Possible exception for this guy. No idea if that would fix on reload. Should say though, it's not my intent to antagonize. All things considered fallout 2 was my personal favorite, and New Vegas was enjoyed more than fallout 3 for me as well. Might sound trite but I hadn't given you enough credit, took you for a johnny come lately with an axe to grind, apologies.

In regards to the patch notes, I said that Fallout 2 was a mess with bugs and that the majority of game breaking bugs were not addressed by the developers. The patch notes shown are only a few of the bugs they addressed (mainly global issues) and even then, the game was still far from polished. As mentioned earlier, the Unofficial Community patches addressed most of the issues the developers missed... as quoted by the Patchers themselves on the last update:

This patch has been in production for several years now and it fixes well over 800+ bugs left in the game since the official 1.02 patch

Here's a link to the notes for the sake of brevity:
http://www.killap.net/fallout2/patches/corrections.txt

You don't need to read it of course, but it might be entertaining to see what was missed by the devs. It's mostly minor but NPC script fails (characters failing to reward quests or rewarding wrongly), quest breakers (script breaks that prevented accomplishing missions) and crashes were missed by the devs.

Anyway, Bygones be bygones. We're all fans of Fallout I believe.

 

[AgentBJ09]

Well is it?

Between some rather annoying missions and the V.A.T.S. fucking me over sometimes... I would just like to know if it's normal.

Also btw I only just bought Fallout 3 two days ago.

I would say no, it isn't. The game played perfectly fine for me ever since I bought it on Day 1.

Then again, it's been proven that fans of Fallout 1 and 2 outright detest Fallout 3, so that could also be the subtext of so much complaining.

 

[Belgian_Waffles]

And don't you dare speak ill of Goris. ************ had more character than any of the useless companions in F3. Also, he was a motherfucking deathclaw.

Thinking of a character with more personality than the companions in Fallout 3 isn't very difficult. Those companions were as bland as they come, even Rex had more background story than those companions.

Don't talk shit about Fawkes.

 

[Neverhoodian]

Perhaps it's because I'm a relative newcomer to the series, but I really enjoy Fallout 3. It's one of my favorite games this console generation (I have the 360 version because my humble laptop can't handle the PC version). Coming from someone who dislikes Oblivion, that's saying something.

Yes the story isn't very enthralling and the metros are modular segments that have been blatantly copy-pasted together, but I like the exploration elements and perk customization.

And yes I have played Fallout 1 and 2, so you diehard old-school Fallout fans can kindly put away that rope and chair.

 

[loc978]

Spoiler: snip

No, Fallout 3 is easy as balls.

Turn the difficulty slider to max, free aim everything like an FPS (no stealth suit + melee), now repeat what you just said.

Fallout is a series of RPGs, why the hell would you treat one of the games as an FPS?
Personally, I go the opposite route for challenge. I don't allow myself to free-fire at all in 3 or New Vegas. I attack with VATS only. As it was meant to be. Attacking takes action points in the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system. Period.

Well, if you're looking for difficulty. Anyway, why do FPS's and RPG's have to be at odds?
Even though it does make it easier in limited situations (mainly long range since bullets have less spread), you have to pay so much more attention to your ammo reserves because hit rate is reduced close up, and against multiple targets it is quite a bit more difficult thanks to the aim movement.

Actually you are Meant to use VATS as an advantage and free-fire when you run out, so neither of us are doing what is Meant to be when we are looking for a challenge.

Is that method really that hard though? With Grim Reaper's Sprint and max AP, you should be able to stay at full AP constantly if you have an acceptable weapon.

Just a little cherry-pick here, because I essentially agree with the snipped bit... though we were arguing different points there... but...
Endgame in Fallout 3 is easy no matter how you play it. The challenging bit comes before you get powerful. Not free-firing when your character sucks at combat increases the challenge quite a lot.

 

[Blackpapa]

From what I gather, it's mostly the veteran Fallout fans that played the first 2 Fallouts that rage on 3.

I personally don't get why, I played the first 2 once I got my hands on them, and that was after I played 3, and comparing the 2 PC games with F3, I personally found F3 to be in some ways better.

But then, I played Fallout 3 on my 360, and I'm not used to PC gaming, but I found Fallouts 1 and 2 pretty hard to figure out.

For instance, with Fallout 1, I went to the one Vault that was marked on my map where I'm supposed to find a Water Chip, I couldn't find it anywhere (even though I got a leather jacket and a SMG as reward for my effort), so I decided to head to what I think is Junktown, I went and talked to the 1 merchant (I forgot his name) who had a 'talking head' seqeunce on him and when I finished, a bunch of thugs suddenly arrived and started attacking, when I pulled out my weapon to fight back at the thugs,the merchant and his buddies started attacking me!

Was this a glitch? or was there something I missed?

No, this is exactly the thing I loved about Fallout! You nailed it right there!

In Bethesda's Fallout 3 you always have a magical arrow invariably pointing you where you have to go as if each and every objective, piece of X, NPC had a fucking GPS on them. Frankly it treats you like a retard. Here, have a magical and completely implausible magic arrow that your character would never logically have. We know you need it.

Fallout 1 was a role-playing game. The overseer told you as much as he knew. He knew the location of another vault because that would be the most probable place to find the chip. It turns out life's a *****, dead end.

The frustration you felt when you couldn't find the chip? Well, that's intentional. What would a dude who spent his entire life in a vault do when sent on a quest like this only to find no chip anywhere? Search hard then panic.

That's the beauty of Fallout 1/2.

It's not that I hate the first 2 Fallouts, as I said I haven't really figured them out completely, but Fallout 3's got great atmosphere, well-told storyline, decent gameplay, and there alot less you have to figure out in order to play it.

Fallout 3 does have some issues regarding glitches, but they're few and far between.

Again, the beauty about Fallout 1/2 is that you have to figure things out.

 

[Neko Federovna]

I say that it?s fully legit to rage out on games. One condition though, you must not let it kill the game. My girlfriend finally moved up to fallout 3 after lurking oblivion for MANY years. I set her up with the Fallout 3 - Wanderers Edition mod and told her to have fun.

(http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2761) Grab it if you haven?t. It?s a really fun mod. Full control over the settings. Easy to install

She just about punched her monitor she was getting so fed up. (Btw she is a manager at a clothing store so you can understand the amount of patience she has.) I told her to take five. As lovingly as she could she told me to fuck off, them promptly threw a grenade at the raider pissing her off. Blew the hell outta him and immediately danced on his body. I asked her if she is still going to play. She promised me that I won't be seeing that cd leave her computer any time soon.

Now I most likely went slightly off the reason for your rageing so if you?re having problems with the actual game play I suggest (I know you have heard this Thousands of times) Make sure your updated, adjust your settings to optimal performance. And turn off Anti Aliasing. My computer tanks Fallout at max settings but it crashes often. My GF found a suggestion to turn off AA and both of us have yet to crash for quite some time. If that doesn?t work check out fallout nexus and look for mods.