Is it possible for a 13 year old gamer to save up enough to buy the parts to build a gaming pc

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Nazz3

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You can get a good one for about 500 - 700 euros i'd say (about 440 - 620 pounds), so yeah 1300 pounds will be way more than enough. If you use more than that for it you can get a pretty powerful one too. You could also take a summer job (im not sure whats the minimum age on which you can attend one on UK though) but if you can, you should. Will you turn 14 this year, or did you just turn 13?
 

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Nazz3 said:
You can get a good one for about 500 - 700 euros i'd say (about 440 - 620 pounds), so yeah 1300 pounds will be way more than enough. If you use more than that for it you can get a pretty powerful one too. You could also take a summer job (im not sure whats the minimum age on which you can attend one on UK though) but if you can, you should. Will you turn 14 this year, or did you just turn 13?
I turn 14 on november the 15 this year. Btw guys is this a good motherboard for a good price? http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-p7p55d-e-pro--intel-p55--1156--4ddr3--2pci-ex16--crossfirex-sli--raid--8chhd--usb3---sata6--atx-6CXS.html?refs=4294957129-4294959857
 

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Carl Russell said:
Btw guys is this a good motherboard for a good price? http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-p7p55d-e-pro--intel-p55--1156--4ddr3--2pci-ex16--crossfirex-sli--raid--8chhd--usb3---sata6--atx-6CXS.html?refs=4294957129-4294959857
It's fine, but it's 1156. Also if you don't want to SLI/CF then the P7P55D is just as fine and cheaper.
 

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If you need a cheap but capable motherboard, I'm currently using an Asus M4A78LT-M. It's handling a 3.7Ghz overclock, 8gb of Corsair 1600 RAM, a massive Noctua cooler, a GTX 470 and I've so far maxed out bulletstorm and Crysis 2.

It's a brilliant little board, and you can get them new from various Amazon sellers for just under £40. I'd definitely recommend it for that money.
 

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Yes, actually that is EXACTLY what my one friend did, although for different reasons
 

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Hey OP! I didn't read the other posts because this thread is too big... I wanted to chime in, when I was 18 I "built" my first computer. I went to a PC shop around the corner with $1,000 that I got from graduation of high school. At 13 I had to use my parents Compaq presario and other hand me down pcs (OH YAH). I would say for the price you really should just buy a dell studio (I actually work at dell) because the hassle of building your own plus the cost of an operating system may end up being more expensive. Also with a dell you can get a 1 year warranty included so you've got coverage if parts break.

Choosing your own components can be very frustrating for people with limited PC knowledge/experience. I build my own still but for others I tell them just to buy a studio from dell. Build one without a monitor or speakers and get a basic setup with no frills. As birthdays/allowances accrue you can add on the good stuff. I think 1300 is way too much for a starter system when they are so cheap. Check this out:

AMD Phenom II X4 945 (3.0GHz,6MB)
4096MB 1333 MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [4x1024]
1GB ATI® Radeon? HD 5450 graphics card with Vision Premium label
500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit- English
£548.99

that's a monster gaming rig for a very good price. http://www.dell.com/uk/p/desktop-deals
Check here for frequent discounts on really good rigs. Dell also has a refurbished site: http://www.dell.com/outlet
in case you want to save even more by finding a used system. There's also financing options, if you can convince parents to put a machine on credit and you pay out of your allowance. I don't see any reason you'd need to spend over 600 euros to get started. Hopefully this information is helpful young one, go and conquer the world.
 

Kabutos

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Daniel Yarbrough said:
Hey OP! I didn't read the other posts because this thread is too big... I wanted to chime in, when I was 18 I "built" my first computer. I went to a PC shop around the corner with $1,000 that I got from graduation of high school. At 13 I had to use my parents Compaq presario and other hand me down pcs (OH YAH). I would say for the price you really should just buy a dell studio (I actually work at dell) because the hassle of building your own plus the cost of an operating system may end up being more expensive. Also with a dell you can get a 1 year warranty included so you've got coverage if parts break.

Choosing your own components can be very frustrating for people with limited PC knowledge/experience. I build my own still but for others I tell them just to buy a studio from dell. Build one without a monitor or speakers and get a basic setup with no frills. As birthdays/allowances accrue you can add on the good stuff. I think 1300 is way too much for a starter system when they are so cheap. Check this out:

AMD Phenom II X4 945 (3.0GHz,6MB)
4096MB 1333 MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [4x1024]
1GB ATI® Radeon? HD 5450 graphics card with Vision Premium label
500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit- English
£548.99

that's a monster gaming rig for a very good price. http://www.dell.com/uk/p/desktop-deals
Check here for frequent discounts on really good rigs. Dell also has a refurbished site: http://www.dell.com/outlet
in case you want to save even more by finding a used system. There's also financing options, if you can convince parents to put a machine on credit and you pay out of your allowance. I don't see any reason you'd need to spend over 600 euros to get started. Hopefully this information is helpful young one, go and conquer the world.
Hahahahahahhaha. Are you actually kidding me.


You must actually work for Dell.

EDIT: Just for kicks:

 

strum4h

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Of course it is possible. I mowed every lawn in my neighborhood twice a week for 10 dollars each. It just requires hard work and determination. Now I have a job and an 1800 dollar pc.
 

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Can I make a suggestion? If you're buying components over a period of months, buy your case, fans, PSU and hard-drives first, basically the bits that won't go out of date! Graphics cards and CPUs are constantly being updated, so the later you buy them, the better deal you should get.
 

Daniel Yarbrough

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I do actually work for dell, and what's wrong with a studio anyhow? Half the PC's in the world come out of the foxcon plant in China anyway, why not buy an OEM system?
 

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Carl Russell said:
I am 13 years old. I'm sick of all the dull fps and crappy games developers are making for consoles. Not to mention the arrogant community that consists of immature kids (Not all of the community just most people I run into online).

There is arrogance everywhere my friend and it is just as bad on PCs as it is in consoles.

But to answer you honestly, yeah you can easily save up for a PC to run new games on at least decent settings, it may take a while if you want a incredibly strong one.
 

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Daniel Yarbrough said:
I do actually work for dell, and what's wrong with a studio anyhow? Half the PC's in the world come out of the foxcon plant in China anyway, why not buy an OEM system?
Because Dell is shit parts for terrible prices. And so is FOXCONN.

Allow me to reiterate:

 

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I'd say stick to consoles, pcs are very expensive and the arrogance and elitism you get on consoles is 10 times worse on pc.
 

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I Wish i had the determination of you to make my computer better (while it isnt the best its not too bad though)

the only advice i have is offer to do medial tasks for people like mowing their lawn or walking their dog stuff like that maybe it wont pay all that well but when you do a bunch of them it'll add up
 

Private Custard

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Daniel Yarbrough said:
I do actually work for dell, and what's wrong with a studio anyhow? Half the PC's in the world come out of the foxcon plant in China anyway, why not buy an OEM system?
Because people like dell lock settings in the BIOS. Basically stopping you from OC'ing a few extra Mhz out of your CPU. Overclocking is free performance, which a lot of pre-builts don't allow.

That and the fact that Dell is overpriced tat that's only good for buying in the hundreds to stuff under peoples desks in open plan offices, destined to be used by people that are confused by the power button!
 

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Because people like dell lock settings in the BIOS. Basically stopping you from OC'ing a few extra Mhz out of your CPU. Overclocking is free performance, which a lot of pre-builts don't allow.

That and the fact that Dell is overpriced tat that's only good for buying in the hundreds to stuff under peoples desks in open plan offices, destined to be used by people that are confused by the power button!
Also because of this:

 

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I've been trying for years, it's difficult to impossible to spend a year or even half a year without spending anything, and the financial stress gets worse when you move to the next year of education. In theory if you believe you can save around £800, you can build a very component machine that will last you through a few years before it begins to show it's age seriously.

As for a build, the best PC builders I have ever come across is DinoPC. I cannot recommend these guys strongly enough, their PCs are always up to date, unbeatable on price (I hate this term but damn are they difficult to match) and their customer service is excellent.

http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/pcs-gaming.asp?idcategory=94

As for a suggested build, Overclockers UK, dabs, aria and scan are all the sites you should need. They're usually the most comprehensive and competitive on price. Make sure you research each component individually before buying so as not to just trust the run down on the sales page.

£800 Budget -

Asus Crosshair IV Formula AMD 890FX (£167) - When and if you upgrade to crossfire, this AM3 800 board will support full 16x 16x channels for both cards or 16x 8x 8x in 3-way crossfire. It supports USB 3.0 and SATA-III as all 800 boards do, has excellent onboard sound control from a SupremeFX X-Fi chip, and is all round a versatile mobo.

AMD's Phenom II X6 1090T (£150) - Unlocked multiplier and six cores clocked at 3.00Ghz for under £200. It's a great gaming chip with lots of headroom for overclocking. Alternatively you could go X4 and save a bit of money, however don't pay a premium for an extra 200Mhz, the overclocking ease on these chips negates the need completely.

G.Skill RipJawsX 4Gb PC-12800 (£50) - Great latency timings, 1600Mhz clocked, all round good RAM but if you look around you might find cheaper. Try to keep the combined timings of the latencies as close to the final number as possible but simultaneously low, for example these modules are 7-8-7-24 timed. Always buy branded RAM with a good warranty.

ATI Radeon 6950 1Gb (£188) - More than decent card, under £200. I don't know what else to say about this card, I recommend just taking some time to learn about how a GPU works and then what's currently on the market (I mean you have the time :p).

1Tb 7200RPM 64Mb Cache SATA-III (6Gb/s) ideally. Western Digital Caviar Black do one for about £72. Very reasonable if you ask me. Ignore SSD for now.

Optical drives wise, you don't need Blu-Ray but it's nice to have. If you think you can afford it, maybe go for it if you intend to watch Blu-Ray films. Don't strecth yourself to get one though, they're not necessary at this point. A good DVD±RW will do, the LiteOn IHAS124 is around £15.

Coolermaster GX 650W PSU (£60) - Never go cheap on a PSU, it's possibly the most crucial part of your entire system. If it seriously fails, everything seriously fails. You cannot afford not to get a trusted brand, high efficiency (80% and up) with lots of adaptability. This PSU delivers all that with a hefty 650W to keep everything running smoothly, supports crossfire set ups, has 100,000 hours MTBF and runs of a single +12V rail (look this up).

Finally (sort of) the case. Antec 300, Coolermaster HAF or Coolermaster Storm Scout. I'd go Antec 300, you just can not go wrong with it, a legendary case. Really

You're going to want a 64bit OS, but what you choose is up to you. An OEM Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit will set you back about £80, it's a good OS as you'll be well aware, professional is better but comes with the price tag. I don't think you'll want to go Linux if this rig is for gaming, but their are competent Linux gaming platforms growing as we speak, so keep an eye out.

This'll all change over the year but for now it holds true as a staple of a good £800 rig, and would last you a good half decade before it even began to show age. The RAM would do well to be upgraded at some point to 8Gb, and as previously mentioned it's all prepared for a 16x 16x crossfire set-up. Whether you choose to stick with the 6950 or have moved onto the 7*** series by then is your call.

Hope some of this helped.
 

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Kabutos said:
Private Custard said:
Because people like dell lock settings in the BIOS. Basically stopping you from OC'ing a few extra Mhz out of your CPU. Overclocking is free performance, which a lot of pre-builts don't allow.

That and the fact that Dell is overpriced tat that's only good for buying in the hundreds to stuff under peoples desks in open plan offices, destined to be used by people that are confused by the power button!
Also because of this:

What the hell?? Is it just me or is that motherboard in totally the wrong order?!

Looks like it wasn't made to fit in a modern tower!