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klc0100

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sheic99 said:
C0RV4L0U5 said:
im sorry but i dont actualy have anyhitng to say to this but um... how can you be born and your dad gay? ok I know about adoption and stuff... but yea just wondering
I can't really answer this for him, but my dad came out when I was 15.
Very off topic: How did you survive school?
 

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Eggo said:
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I'm all for multiculturalism, but it's a two way street.

If immigrants expect us to adopt or adapt to their customs, they have do the same in change.
Is that what European colonists did when they came to America and wiped out the indigenous populations?

That's one hell of a way to adapt and adopt.
What exactly are you trying to say? That has nothing to do with multiculturalism...
 

sirdanrhodes

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You live by the rules of the country you are in at the time, like those women who wear berkers (Can't spell that word) in schools, you should dress according to regulations. We have people of this country who are denied a simple necklace of the crucifix in the UK, but immigrants who feel they have the right, get it.

The statements stated are not racist, although they are just behind the borderline on annoyance.
 

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It's not racism, it's homophobia. But gay marriage laws aside, I don't think how long a person has been in a country really effects how valid their opinion is, whatever their opinion may be. We can't very well say "right, well I was here first, so my opinion counts and yours doesn't". Of course, you feel more territorial over your home because you've always been there, but if someone else is living there, no matter how long they've been there for, anything that happens in that home effects them also, and thus their opinion is valid. However homophobic it may be.
 

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Eggo said:
"If immigrants expect us to adopt or adapt to their customs, they have do the same in change."

Apply it to, say, the late 1400's to the mid 1800's or so.
Why? They didn't care about multiculturalism, so what's your point?
 

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My Opinion: It's the damn government who need to adapt. If you want or allow immigrants in your country, you really need to have rules set in stone on whether you want their culture in or not. It's that simple.

1. Turbans/helmets - That person is the one taking a risk driving without a helmet
2. Knives - It's a tool as well, not just a weapon.
3. RCMP - He wored the uniform, but not the hat. I really don't see the problem here. He has his own set of duties to be carried out while in that uniform, and he can do so, where's the problem?

But, I have to admit, Eggo had some really good points. The settlers never really abide by the laws, customs, and rules of the natural owners of the land ;p
 

fedpayne

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OK, it's racist if you assume that all immigrants will behave in a certain way, and dislike all immigrants because of personal experience.

And is it really illegal to ride a motorbike without a helmet?
And do the Mounties really need the goddamn hat?
The kirpan issue I agree with you on. A compromise needs to be reached (everywhere). I think that since it's just a symbol, then a symbol of a knife should do, a wooden replica or something.

EDIT: It bothers me, the whole first nation thing. Why should it not belong to the animals? Mistakes were made. But current generation North Americans didn't fucking make them. It's just like blaming the German youth for the war, or all white folk for slavery.

I'm not saying it should be forgotten, but that's the way it is. Should we give England back to the Celts?
 

xxcloud417xx

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sheic99 said:
C0RV4L0U5 said:
im sorry but i dont actualy have anyhitng to say to this but um... how can you be born and your dad gay? ok I know about adoption and stuff... but yea just wondering
I can't really answer this for him, but my dad came out when I was 15.
Mine did when I was somewhere around 10 to 12...
 

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xxcloud417xx said:
C0RV4L0U5 said:
im sorry but i dont actualy have anyhitng to say to this but um... how can you be born and your dad gay? ok I know about adoption and stuff... but yea just wondering
lol wow, I start a topic on racism and I get this as a question... go figure...

My father was married and was in a Heterosexual relationship with my mom. But eventually he realized that he was gay, and that the relationship wasn't going to work.
Well, at least he got out of it. I mean, it would kind of be bad if he kept on being married and "Cheated" on your mom. Good job for him.
 

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Eggo said:
"If immigrants expect us to adopt or adapt to their customs, they have do the same in change."

Apply it to, say, the late 1400's to the mid 1800's or so. And Europeans are the immigrants.
Yes we get it. But again, how does applying 1400's - 1800's European violent colonization apply to how society and cultures merge today. I'm pretty sure the OP isn't asking questions about how to fight off an incoming culture that's attempting to conquer the lands with far more advanced weaponry.

Though that would be a totally more interesting subject:
Dear Escapist - Turians are invading Canada with laser rifles and robot horses. They're saying they discovered our land and taking it from us...WHAT SHOULD WE DO?!
 

xxcloud417xx

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Eggo said:
Fanboy said:
Eggo said:
"If immigrants expect us to adopt or adapt to their customs, they have do the same in change."

Apply it to, say, the late 1400's to the mid 1800's or so.
Why? They didn't care about multiculturalism, so what's your point?
So it's the problem of the First Nations that the ancestors of just about everyone here were insensitive, ignorant, and xenophobic jerks? That's one way to put it.
This is another "OMG HOLOCAUST!!!" type thing.
I'll explain : A FEW Jewish people still complaining about the holocaust and are trying to get pitied for it still. I know actual Jewish people who are sick and tired of this kind of crap. The same thing now with Native people complaining that "you stole our land!" Listen mate, I wasn't around when your land was stolen, and neither were you, don't get personal about it. I'm making a thread that is about the here and now! get with it or gtfo.
 

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Onyxblackwolf said:
Eggo said:
"If immigrants expect us to adopt or adapt to their customs, they have do the same in change."

Apply it to, say, the late 1400's to the mid 1800's or so. And Europeans are the immigrants.
Yes we get it. But again, how does applying 1400's - 1800's European violent colonization apply to how society and cultures merge today. I'm pretty sure the OP isn't asking questions about how to fight off an incoming culture that's attempting to conquer the lands with far more advanced weaponry.

Though that would be a totally more interesting subject:
Dear Escapist - Turians are invading Canada with laser rifles and robot horses. They're saying they discovered our land and taking it from us...WHAT SHOULD WE DO?!
Contact Commander Shephard, his experience with the Blitz will help us here. Oh and, if you could tell Mom about the geth I adopted. Thanks
 

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Eggo said:
Fanboy said:
Eggo said:
"If immigrants expect us to adopt or adapt to their customs, they have do the same in change."

Apply it to, say, the late 1400's to the mid 1800's or so.
Why? They didn't care about multiculturalism, so what's your point?
So it's the problem of the First Nations that the ancestors of just about everyone here were insensitive, ignorant, and xenophobic jerks? That's one way to put it.
Did I say that?

The "they" I was referring to were the colonists. They were the one's who didn't care about keeping the native's culture. The natives didn't have a choice. That's not multiculturalism.

So again, what's you point?
 

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It isnt as bad as the UK. Where they cant show TV ads with puppies, cause the muslims will be offended. Nor do yu have a Sharia court system.
Heck, some hadji sued the company he was working for cause they had him handle booze. he knew this when he got the job.
Thank the gods you live in a...relatively sane country man. If hadji doesnt want to follow the rules, then he goes without.
 

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Eggo said:
xxcloud417xx said:
This is another "OMG HOLOCAUST!!!" type thing.
I'll explain : A FEW Jewish people still complaining about the holocaust and are trying to get pitied for it still. I know actual Jewish people who are sick and tired of this kind of crap. The same thing now with Native people complaining that "you stole our land!" Listen mate, I wasn't around when your land was stolen, and neither were you, don't get personal about it. I'm making a thread that is about the here and now! get with it or gtfo.
It just stinks of social hypocrisy:

"It's perfectly okay and chill for our ancestors to come to America and completely obliterate the lives and cultures of those who lived here for thousands of years, but you are going to have one hell of a thing coming to you if you immigrate to our country that we've only been in for a couple hundred years and dare wear a turban on a motorcycle."
We aren't our ancestors. We agree what they did was wrong. Get over it.
 

cainx10a

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mosinmatt said:
It isnt as bad as the UK. Where they cant show TV ads with puppies, cause the muslims will be offended. Nor do yu have a Sharia court system.
Heck, some hadji sued the company he was working for cause they had him handle booze. he knew this when he got the job.
Thank the gods you live in a...relatively sane country man. If hadji doesnt want to follow the rules, then he goes without.
What the hell is a Hadji? Is that the other N word for Arabs now?