Is it wrong to say that I find Lego lame as a playable toy? (Ramble)

[Saelune]

To add to say, Warhammer. Legos...I can change any of the figures to mix with any of the other figures, no glue required. Cant do that with Warhammer. I can take Spider-Man's Lego head, put it on Lego Gandalf's body, with Lego Batman's Cowl, and have him use a Lego Lightsaber while he explores Lego Hogwarts.

Except you can...there's a reason conversions and a thing called a "junk box" exist. And why painting studios get paid quite a bit for quality conversions, especially with Forgeworld stuff. Now, whether YOU can or not may be dictated by the tools and effort you're willing to expend on it, but it is definitely possible and has been encouraged because it's a HOBBYGAME.

Also this thread seems to be pretty easy to understand, did you grow up with legos or not? If you say yes, then you probably will stand against everything the OP is asking and talking about. Personally didn't enjoy them, so there's alot of stuff that matches up with my views on them. Legos are interesting, but honestly I don't much see the point of them. They're messy, they hurt to step on, and the chances of you building something worth getting excited about is pretty low.

And PC gaming is the most powerful, but yet consoles are popular...cause one of them doesnt require a ton of money and skill.

Legos are customizable literally out of the box to any child. Warhammer figures not so much. Sure, I can GLUE any part to anything, but not well. I mean, really, I coud just make my own molds and do whatever I want, but tell that to a 4 year old.

Warhammer figures are messy, hurt to step on (and generally way pointier than legos) and chances of building something worth getting excited about is pretty low.

 

[Elvis Starburst]

Holy shit snippers

Well played... Well played

 

[Drathnoxis]

Lego is boring, I never shared in the appeal. I had a big drawer of it, but never really spent much time building anything at all. In fact, most toys got pretty neglected compared to my N64.

 

[Michel Henzel]

This just comes across as just another "How can people like something I don't like" post tbh. I've had Star Wars, M.A.S.K., Transformers, GI Joe, TMNT, Star Com, etc. And none of it compared to the awesomeness that is Lego. I cannot comprehend how you can like cheap plastic junk, that you can't even rebuild if it breaks or turn it into something completely different. That is just plain madness. (see what I did there)

 

[Phasmal]

(Looks at thread title)
Huh. We sure live in a weird world.

Lego is a good way for kids to develop their fine motor skills, and there's nothing nicer than when a hyper two year old sits down to become quietly engrossed in tiny interlocking bricks.
I don't really have any reason to be against Lego, apart from having the experience of treading on a bit barefoot. That's no fun.

Ultimately, I'm not sure it's important that you don't care for a child's toy.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

(Looks at thread title)
Huh. We sure live in a weird world.

Lego is a good way for kids to develop their fine motor skills, and there's nothing nicer than when a hyper two year old sits down to become quietly engrossed in tiny interlocking bricks.
I don't really have any reason to be against Lego, apart from having the experience of treading on a bit barefoot. That's no fun.

Ultimately, I'm not sure it's important that you don't care for a child's toy.

Just so you know I know that is the point of Lego, I am just pointing out the idea that there are kids that plays with said Lego constructions as no different than a doll/action figure even though that is not what Legos are made for.

The playing of Lego is the building not the using of the construction as a doll.

 

[Saelune]

(Looks at thread title)
Huh. We sure live in a weird world.

Lego is a good way for kids to develop their fine motor skills, and there's nothing nicer than when a hyper two year old sits down to become quietly engrossed in tiny interlocking bricks.
I don't really have any reason to be against Lego, apart from having the experience of treading on a bit barefoot. That's no fun.

Ultimately, I'm not sure it's important that you don't care for a child's toy.

Just so you know I know that is the point of Lego, I am just pointing out the idea that there are kids that plays with said Lego constructions as no different than a doll/action figure even though that is not what Legos are made for.

The playing of Lego is the building not the using of the construction as a doll.

Perhaps when Legos were merely buckets of colored bricks, but now Legos have evolved into "Build your own playsets". They are not just for decoration. My brother and I liked roleplaying Star Wars stuff using Legos. Took characters from other sets, gave them capes and lightsabers and made our own Jedi. Things like that. Want to do a space dog-fight with an X-Wing and Tie-Fighter, maybe the Tie Fighter takes out the X-Wing's wing, well, with Legos you can actually show damage like that, and thats super cool. You can repurpose and alter your play world.

Its physical modding without the need for technical skills.

 

[DoPo]

Also, I'm probably being extremely anal about this... Lego as a word is plural. "Legos" is not a thing

Actually, if we are to be pedantic, then LEGO is spelt in all caps, because it's the company name.

Not really. Every artist or company fully capitalizes their titles. Almost everybody.

Erm, no? Some do but "almost everybody"? No, not really.

Doesn't mean we should write it as such. Lego isn't an initialism. Apparently, it's short for "leg godt".

Sure you don't have to as long as you want to be wrong. And I mean it. "Oh the only CHOSE to write it like that" doesn't actually give you license to write down whatever you want. Names happen to fall outside of normal writing rules in that you are supposed to use them as is. Or, let me correct that, they fall very squarely within normal writing rules, because that is the rule when it comes to names.

Doesn't matter if it's the name of a company or a product, or a personal name - it should be preserved as is when formally referring to it. Personal name example: Jean-Claude Van Damme is not Jean Claude Van Damme, even if only the dash is omitted. Similarly Neil deGrasse Tyson is not "Degrasse". As a product name, JavaScript is not "Java Script" - in this particular case your "fixing" of the name will actually lead to even further confusion, as it now seems you refer to a script intended for Java (or written in it?) instead of the programming language called JavaScript.

Again, you can choose to modify a name but that doesn't make "your version", correct. It just means you decided to not follow the rules, which is fine in most cases, but you can't really claim you're backed up by anything there.

In this case LEGO may not be an initialism but it is the name the company operates under. Sure, it derived from "leg godt" but it isn't really that phrase.

On a vaguely related note, not that "being an initialism" requires you to write everything in all caps, anyway, as, for example, "laser" is treated as a regular word, even if it is an initialism[footnote]Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation[/footnote]

 

[DoPo]

Also, I'm probably being extremely anal about this... Lego as a word is plural. "Legos" is not a thing

Actually, if we are to be pedantic, then LEGO is spelt in all caps, because it's the company name.

Not really. Every artist or company fully capitalizes their titles. Almost everybody.

Erm, no? Some do but "almost everybody"? No, not really.

Yes, really. Look at the cover of any movie or game or the title card of any TV show. It's nearly always fully capitalized.

Not nearly the same thing.

Do we have to write Star Wars STAR WARS every time or The Lord of the Rings THE LORD OF THE RINGS.

Depends on whether you're writing a poster or not. Or if you just want to be wrong, I guess.

 

[DoPo]

Some creators and companies also write titles in all lower case, but that doesn't excuse them from the rules of the language.

And the rules of the language state that a name should be preserved, Mr Ease Keel.

 

[Redryhno]

And PC gaming is the most powerful, but yet consoles are popular...cause one of them doesnt require a ton of money and skill.

Legos are customizable literally out of the box to any child. Warhammer figures not so much. Sure, I can GLUE any part to anything, but not well. I mean, really, I coud just make my own molds and do whatever I want, but tell that to a 4 year old.

Warhammer figures are messy, hurt to step on (and generally way pointier than legos) and chances of building something worth getting excited about is pretty low.

Ok, getting sick of seeing this myth still around, but PC gaming requires neither a ton of money or skill. A decent gaming rig costs roughly $800 and gives you at least two years of play at med-max graphics on the majority of titles, depending on what you like to play of course. At worst, you're working minimum wage for roughly eight months to afford it. And if you can fit together LEGO playsets, you can fit together components since they're sorta labelled and have unique pin configurations depending on where it's supposed to go.

The closest you get to "tons of skill" is the labeling cards and components and ordering things simply because they seem to make them as alien as they can and how some things don't interact very well. All of which you can overcome by asking around at the various PC build outlets around the internet and the AMD/Nvidia sites largely being well-kept in terms of what's compatible with what. Source: My technologically illiterate ass.

And you're talking to one of the kids grew up getting Warhammer figures that were pretty customizable out of the box. I mean, after putting together a box, you normally had more than a few bits left over and then it was up to your imagination and painting for further customizing...Not to mention you're taking what I said as far as you can to make your justification make more sense. I never said anything about molds, I never said anything about 4-year olds playing with them, I never said a damn thing about Warhammer competing with LEGO or one being better than the other.

All I did was say that the minis are customizable out of the box and that you can put an equivalent Spider-Man head on an equivalent Gandalf body with an equivalent Batman cowl using equivalent lightsaber in equivalent hogwarts if you want to. That's literally it. So cool it.

 

[Saelune]

And PC gaming is the most powerful, but yet consoles are popular...cause one of them doesnt require a ton of money and skill.

Legos are customizable literally out of the box to any child. Warhammer figures not so much. Sure, I can GLUE any part to anything, but not well. I mean, really, I coud just make my own molds and do whatever I want, but tell that to a 4 year old.

Warhammer figures are messy, hurt to step on (and generally way pointier than legos) and chances of building something worth getting excited about is pretty low.

Ok, getting sick of seeing this myth still around, but PC gaming requires neither a ton of money or skill. A decent gaming rig costs roughly $800 and gives you at least two years of play at med-max graphics on the majority of titles, depending on what you like to play of course. At worst, you're working minimum wage for roughly eight months to afford it. And if you can fit together LEGO playsets, you can fit together components since they're sorta labelled and have unique pin configurations depending on where it's supposed to go.

The closest you get to "tons of skill" is the labeling cards and components and ordering things simply because they seem to make them as alien as they can and how some things don't interact very well. All of which you can overcome by asking around at the various PC build outlets around the internet and the AMD/Nvidia sites largely being well-kept in terms of what's compatible with what. Source: My technologically illiterate ass.

And you're talking to one of the kids grew up getting Warhammer figures that were pretty customizable out of the box. I mean, after putting together a box, you normally had more than a few bits left over and then it was up to your imagination and painting for further customizing...Not to mention you're taking what I said as far as you can to make your justification make more sense. I never said anything about molds, I never said anything about 4-year olds playing with them, I never said a damn thing about Warhammer competing with LEGO or one being better than the other.

All I did was say that the minis are customizable out of the box and that you can put an equivalent Spider-Man head on an equivalent Gandalf body with an equivalent Batman cowl using equivalent lightsaber in equivalent hogwarts if you want to. That's literally it. So cool it.

Simplicity is a value in and of itself. Give some legos to a kid, then give them a warhammer set, see what happens. Hope they dont choke on the glue or huff the paint.

I dont have to do shit when I get a console (atleast until this iteration BS which I hate). All the games for teh system work. Dont need to worry about drivers, dont need to worry about graphic cards, dont need to worry about OS. Its alot of work not needed to just play a game.

 

[Pseudonym]

If your point is that lego is a building kit and not a bunch of action figures, and thus not as sturdy as most action figures. Uhm, yeah. Duh. But I'm not telling kids how they should play with their lego's. If they are having fun using their lego's as action figure type toys, let them. And if you don't want to play with lego's because you want an action toy, you, as an adult and hopefully not in crippling poverty, can buy an action toy any time you want.

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

Of course it's not "wrong" to say that. It's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

I personally love Lego. That said I was born and raised at a time where it was mostly just blocks in a bucket and you made your own shit. They did have certain play-sets (like space - yay Benny!) but the pieces were so generic you could make whatever if you got bored with them. These days the pieces seem so specific that you can't really adapt them to things that they aren't supposed to be.
It's a minor gripe. Lego still rocks.

 

[McElroy]

I dont have to do shit when I get a console (at least until this iteration BS which I hate).

While I'd gladly leave the good ol' pc vs console memes alone, last generation saw PC become the better platform in almost all ways. The only advantage consoles still have (that's not artificial like exclusives and shit ports) is the social aspect of playing in the living room which is easier to set up with a console.

Ok, getting sick of seeing this myth still around, but PC gaming requires neither a ton of money or skill. A decent gaming rig costs roughly $800 and gives you at least two years of play at med-max graphics on the majority of titles.

Tbh, 800$ for two years before upgrading would be a shit deal compared to the console option. That's unlikely to be the case, however. Reddit is full of these bargain builds anyway. We can all check for ourselves if we want.

OT: If one considers all the assembling and taking apart of legos (sue me) as lame, then I can see where you're coming from. The loony bin, that is.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

I dont have to do shit when I get a console (at least until this iteration BS which I hate).

While I'd gladly leave the good ol' pc vs console memes alone, last generation saw PC become the better platform in almost all ways. The only advantage consoles still have (that's not artificial like exclusives and shit ports) is the social aspect of playing in the living room which is easier to set up with a console.

OT: If one considers all the assembling and taking apart of legos (sue me) as lame, then I can see where you're coming from. The loony bin, that is.

To quote my last post again:

Just so you know I know that is the point of Lego, I am just pointing out the idea that there are kids that plays with said Lego constructions as no different than a doll/action figure even though that is not what Legos are made for.

The playing of Lego is the building not the using of the construction as a doll.