is my dad wrong in this situation?

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bullet_sandw1ch

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my father thinks that im a "pansy", a "fudge packer", a "******" and various other derogatory slang terms aimed at gay people, because i am not as strong or manly as he was when he was a boy. heres the problem: i was making lasagna, and a piece of tin foil fell into the hot depths of the oven. he then tells me to reach into the active, 400+ degree oven, past the hot coil thing that creates heat, and grab the foil. now, i would have done it, were it not for the fact that he insulted me when i told him of the issue, yet he would not do it either, and then proceeded to play solitaire on his phone. his only excuse is that he works, and i do not. i am 14, and have applied for many jobs, yet no one will accept me because im too young, they say. what should i tell him?
 

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bullet_sandw1ch said:
my father thinks that im a "pansy", a "fudge packer", a "******" and various other derogatory slang terms aimed at gay people, because i am not as strong or manly as he was when he was a boy. heres the problem: i was making lasagna, and a piece of tin foil fell into the hot depths of the oven. he then tells me to reach into the active, 400+ degree oven, past the hot coil thing that creates heat, and grab the foil. now, i would have done it, were it not for the fact that he insulted me when i told him of the issue, yet he would not do it either, and then proceeded to play solitaire on his phone. his only excuse is that he works, and i do not. i am 14, and have applied for many jobs, yet no one will accept me because im too young, they say. what should i tell him?
Tell him to fuck off, if he's too scared to do it, you shouldn't have to do it either. He's a dumbass too, if you were to actually do that you could get 3rd degree burns
 

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Your dad is a ****.

This comment could've ended at the above statement, but I have a feeling that I'd get a warning for not putting enough content in my post, so I'll elaborate further: Your dad is a MASSIVE **** who shouldn't be allowed to raise children.
 

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Sounds like your dad is a shithead, which will make your next 3-4 years difficult. You have the right idea about applying for jobs, since earning a paycheck will give him less clout to hold over you. The best way to get a job at 14 is by making connections with people you know at school, their parents, etc. Save money and do well in school so you can move out ASAP and go to college / trade school.

Edit: as for what you should tell him, there's very little chance that anything you do will improve his behavior. The best strategy is just to wait it out, it will get better in a few years.
 

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T_ConX said:
Tongs. Use Tongs. Tongs anyone?
Glad I'm not the only one who was thinking this.

Also, what does this have to do with Gaming? (I guess your dad was playing solitaire on his phone, but that doesn't seem to be the primary focus here...)
 

Savagezion

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Only family argues over stupid shit like this. You'll only get burns if you touch the burner.

The problem: Foil is in the stove.
The solution: It needs to be taken out.
Irrelevant info: Whether or not you're a pansy.

This may be banter on your father's behalf and he is just messing with you, or he may actually think you are a bit of a pansy. Either way, you are the one cooking, just take out the foil. Then jokingly tell him that since you are a pansy the lasagna probably has cooties.
 

synobal

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Wait until he is old and then put him in the cheapest nursing home you can find.
 

mikey7339

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Daystar Clarion said:
Pfff, my dad would have told me to grab it.

With my face.

While covered in petrol.
He just wanted you to be the most realistic cosplay of Ghost Rider ever.
 
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mikey7339 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Pfff, my dad would have told me to grab it.

With my face.

While covered in petrol.
He just wanted you to be the most realistic cosplay of Ghost Rider ever.
That makes me laugh just thinking about it, especially because my dad isn't into any kind of geek culture whatsoever :D

We get along really well, but he can't understand any of the stuff I'm into.
 

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bullet_sandw1ch said:
my father thinks that im a "pansy", a "fudge packer", a "******" and various other derogatory slang terms aimed at gay people, because i am not as strong or manly as he was when he was a boy. heres the problem: i was making lasagna, and a piece of tin foil fell into the hot depths of the oven. he then tells me to reach into the active, 400+ degree oven, past the hot coil thing that creates heat, and grab the foil. now, i would have done it, were it not for the fact that he insulted me when i told him of the issue, yet he would not do it either, and then proceeded to play solitaire on his phone. his only excuse is that he works, and i do not. i am 14, and have applied for many jobs, yet no one will accept me because im too young, they say. what should i tell him?
Your dad sounds like a total jerk. And not just in that situation. I mean really, he calls you a ****** and a fudge packer? There's joking around with your kid, and then there's verbally abusing kid without any context or hint that it's just a joke. There is no reason for a parent to say things like that to their kid, without them being in on the joke.

Also, he sounds very insecure in his own sexuality.
 

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ToTaL LoLiGe said:
T_ConX said:
Tongs. Use Tongs. Tongs anyone?
Good advice but don't use metal tongs.
Metal tongs would be the best option actually, as long as you're fast enough to grab the foil and pull it out before the heat can transfer, which takes longer than you'd expect. By the time metal tongs would be heating up to a dangerous point, plastic tongs would be melting and be permanently deformed.

A better tip would be: make sure you have oven mitts on.
 

NiPah

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Wait you would have done it had he not insulted you? Was there a way to do it without massive bodily harm or were you just willing to burn half your hand off trying to get a piece of tin foil.
If it's the first then yes he was justified in asking you.
If it's the second then why the hell were you willing to burn half your hand off to get a piece of tin foil?