is my dad wrong in this situation?
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Again and again, I must say. It is not that I view his comments overall "acceptable" or politically correct. What I am saying is that these comments do not define him overall as a father. You are taking one moment in history, where a father calls his son names, and you are taking this and blowing it up to such a degree that you have concluded that this man is not "worthy" of fathering this child. By not worthy I mean you don't see him as an agreeable level. AKA BAD.Mortai Gravesend said:
What I am saying is that this is most likely taken out of context. Who is to say this father ACTUALLY believes homosexuals are inferior? Maybe he had an off day and was stressed out. Maybe this was a singular event. This single event shouldn't be the defining moment where we should grade this man's performance as a father.
Also, this doesn't even show that his goals are bad ones.
Just because someone would LIKE to see someone become an iconic figure in their eyes doesn't make them have bad intentions. I'm sure you'd want your kids to be something. You wouldn't want them to be serial murderers. You'd stray them away from that. You'd probably want your kids to be open minded individuals who are successful and happy. But that would be your opinion. His father was raised in a different era. Even though times change, this doesn't necessarily mean the people change with it. And iconic image for a son to a father would be a masculine, successful one. This doesn't make him a bad father. He has good intentions for his son. They may not meet with the current generation's opinions of gender roles, but he as a father wants to see his son successful (most likely). Not everyone is as flexible as others when it comes to the changing times. That's why there are so many old racist people. It's just something that IS. We can't really change it, so we just have to live with it. They aren't necessarily bad people, but just have lived in a different period. I mean, do you think that the majority of the people in the 50's were horrible people? It was common norm for them to think that women had their place and men had their own.
For the argument you're making, I'd imagine the subject to be much more grim, yes. You are jumping to such a far conclusion that I would only imagine that the subject would match how vast your conclusion would be. The father called his kid names. The worst thing I would think was that maybe he's a grumpy old man, not necessarily a bad father.
In the end of it all, it seems you have a problem with name calling. That seems to be the theme of your argument at least.
Did you know that the words "idiot", "imbecile", and "moron" are all derived from low IQ levels, and thus denote that of mental retardation? So in a sense if you're saying "don't be a moron" you're telling them to not be a person with an IQ between 51 through 70. Which can mean don't be mentally handicapped...which some people can't help...which can be offensive. My point is that all sources of name calling come from some negative denotation that can relate back to some sort of ethnic or possibly crippled group.
If you believe name-calling in anyway, shape, or form is bad, then okay. Your argument is valid in my book.
If you believe that SOME name calling is okay, then your argument will forever fall flat to me, because when it boils down to it all, this all seems to revolve around the issue of name-calling and their references. Whether these names can hurt someone's feeling or not.
Yeah, dont go onto a forum where the average demographic of users is in the 15-22 year old demographic and ask for reasonable info oh parental techniques because invariably you end up inundated with soft hearted responses, cries at the parents authority being more inhumane than it actually is and suggesting that more psyche damage is done by trying to shape your child than to neglect the child and allow their inadequacies to flourish. From those who are at least a decade or better of having first hand exp in raising a teenage child.
We already have a generation filled with these ineffectual adult children because of talk like this. We do not need more.
We already have a generation filled with these ineffectual adult children because of talk like this. We do not need more.
So to be a man you need to be hulking slab of hairy meat who doesn't have any common sense?bullet_sandw1ch said:
Your Dads an asshole. I've met people like him before throughout my life. I am very slender, 5'11" and only weigh 145lbs. I'm 25 years old yet still could pull off what gays would call a twink. (very young looking guy) These insults will happen to you quite a bit in your life, but they should never come from your family. Especially not like this.
If this situation closely matches others that you have had with your father he is abusive. The kind of crap may of been tolerated 50 years ago, but not now. You can be taken away from him for this instance. As for the whole work thing my father was the same way. Perhaps its jealousy. They only see us being able to spend our lives enjoying ourselves, while they can't. Which isn't true at all, they don't realize school is work for us, but thats all they see.
I would seriously consider counseling. Reporting your father will cause major issues as well as much pain within the family. It should be used as a last resort, but you have to do something. This is a serious issue.
What a douche, your dad. However, depending on how that tinfoil fell, it wouldn't be very hard to pick up, since tinfoil doesn't easily heat. I've had dishes with tinfoil over them in the oven for 30 minutes, and I could still take off the tinfoil with my fingers, no problem.
...I'm doubting the authenticity of this story. It reads like fiction. If everything said in the OP is straight, then your dad's an abusive dickhead. And an insecure one at that.
Your dad is a bit of a prick. Personally you really just need to either, ignore him and just block him out entirely or confront him and tell him off. Parents can really warp their children with this kind of behavior and it isn't fair on the child, ie you. On the other hand, just use tongs you goose.
Lasagna? What kind of manly man eats lasagna anyway?
More importantly:
More importantly:
Considering that people post stories like the OP all the time (can't say it happens a lot here because I haven't been here long enough), I also think this is all BS. And is there any reason why this is in gaming discussion? Or why the OP has not responded to anything anyone else has said?MeChaNiZ3D said:
Alternatively, wait until he's old an in a wheelchair, then take him on a trip to the top of a nice rolling hill, aim him at the nearest duck pond and conveniently "forget" to lock the wheels...synobal said:
Cap: Cop an attitude...Yeah that feel appropriate. XD
I wouldn't worry too much, although 400-Fahrenheit is a high temperature you don't have to be tough to safely reach into the oven, just smart.
The coils will radiate heat and conduct via convention but at a relatively slow rate. The foil may be as hot at 400-Fahrenheit but aluminium has low heat-capacity and so thin when the heat is conducted into the larger water laden mass of your skin it won't actually heat up your flesh enough to burn nor even scald it. I have done the same, it's hot for a moment then the foil suddenly is col enough to hold.
PS; to get back at your dad, every time he calls you a fudge-packer, ACT LIKE THAT, and shame him by acting camp and effeminate. When he congratulates you with being manly, act more manly. It's like Pavlov's dog, if he wants a butch tough son then he'll be conditioned not to use such terms.
PP: you should probably talk with your dad reasonably about what you both want:
-Exactly how tough and butch does he want you to be
-Exactly how does he thing he is going to achieve that calling him a "******"
-Exactly how tough do YOU want to be
-Exactly how do you feel you are going with the shit he's talking
The coils will radiate heat and conduct via convention but at a relatively slow rate. The foil may be as hot at 400-Fahrenheit but aluminium has low heat-capacity and so thin when the heat is conducted into the larger water laden mass of your skin it won't actually heat up your flesh enough to burn nor even scald it. I have done the same, it's hot for a moment then the foil suddenly is col enough to hold.
PS; to get back at your dad, every time he calls you a fudge-packer, ACT LIKE THAT, and shame him by acting camp and effeminate. When he congratulates you with being manly, act more manly. It's like Pavlov's dog, if he wants a butch tough son then he'll be conditioned not to use such terms.
PP: you should probably talk with your dad reasonably about what you both want:
-Exactly how tough and butch does he want you to be
-Exactly how does he thing he is going to achieve that calling him a "******"
-Exactly how tough do YOU want to be
-Exactly how do you feel you are going with the shit he's talking
Old generations can be really shitheads. Just because they had a harder life they want to make it just as hard for you, but they can't understand that our world is different nowadays and that intelligence is much more important than being a brute in these times.
If he was joking, maybe you could answer joking to him. If he was serious then if he ever gets you hurt you should talk to the authorities. And when he is older maybe you could beat him up... or not. You can be nice in the future and show him that you're a much better person than him. What a jerk!
If he was joking, maybe you could answer joking to him. If he was serious then if he ever gets you hurt you should talk to the authorities. And when he is older maybe you could beat him up... or not. You can be nice in the future and show him that you're a much better person than him. What a jerk!