Isn't that a sign of failure though?, isn't ownership of a car, house, pension, etc. a sign someone is somebody?Baffle2 said:
Is my generation really the bad generation?
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So...the one that will occur 2-3 generations later? (assuming Hawking's doomsday prediction becomes a reality).Kolby Jack said:
As a Gen X'er I'd say you have a lot to answer for, particularly your over-inflated sense of entitlement; but then I remember that my generation was once (and probably still is) looked upon with disdain, so I'm more than willing to cut you Millennials some slack. We just got into the housing market before it all went to hell and I pity the uphill struggle you lot have to face there. Enjoy your parent's basement.
Yeah. Housing is quite overpriced these days.Programmed_For_Damage said:
I earn about 3x the median household income in my area, and did manage to get a decent house... emphasis on *decent* It's not even that fancy, and is on the upper limit of what I could reasonably afford. The median house is nearly 6x the median income here...
Good luck for those with the median (or less) income.
And I contemplated getting a job where the median house is over 11x the median income. Even with a Google salary, I'd still be renting a room. Yesh.
Question: how old are you? Are you even a Millenial? I ask because I have no idea what the Hell a Millenial even is. I've seen charts where Millenials are born between the late 70's and into the mid 80's but others where Millenials are born between the early and late 80's. I don't know if I'm a Millenial, gen Y, I don't know anything anymore!DarklordKyo said:
What I have noticed though is how it seems like the older generations always look down on the younger generations for one reason or another. The young generation is making tools which decrease the amount of hard labor they're going to do?! Obviously it's because they're too lazy to do real work. The younger generation is reading more than our generation did? Our generation had a much stronger work ethic.
I'm 24, going on 25 come January. The general consensus is kids born mid-80s to early 2000s are Millenials I believe (another way to decide generations is that, apparently, each generational period is about 30 years or so).Shoggoth2588 said:
If you're coming of age was around the new millennium, you're a millennial. If you're 16 as of today, you're whatever comes after millennials, and whatever is going wrong 10 years from now is all your fault. Pretty sure that's how that works anyway. Honestly, the generational divisions are muddy and poorly designated. There aren't any hard and fast definitions, just labels that tend to show up in TIME magazine.
Just remember, back in the day Elvis Presley was subversive.
OBLIGATORY GRIPING EDIT: People like to complain that us millennial getting participation trophies has made us soft, but they never seem to realize who was giving those trophies out.
Just remember, back in the day Elvis Presley was subversive.
OBLIGATORY GRIPING EDIT: People like to complain that us millennial getting participation trophies has made us soft, but they never seem to realize who was giving those trophies out.
I'm reminded of a magnet on my ex-girlfriend's refrigerator: "I didn't say it was your fault. I said I was going to blame you."
I will say right now, as an old curmudgeon, that I loathe most of Twitter, I'm coming to dislike social media, and anyone who feels emojis not adequately representing them on a personal level is an actual problem needs to get their ass to a food bank or a homeless shelter and put in some volunteer hours.
I worry that the casual embrace of an evolving Internet has given many Millenials short attention spans and a willingness to elevate or destroy individual figures in a heartbeat but little follow-through when it comes to bringing about lasting change on issues that require a greater level of commitment.
But, on the other hand, I'm still open-minded enough to recognize that at least some of that probably falls to Millenials embracing the evolution of things like mobile devices and social media in a way that I do, and possibly can, not; that there are occasional evidences of real change occurring, sometimes at a hitherto unprecedented rate; and that things like Patreon, Kickstarter, etc. are rapidly reshaping the face of art and finance, and have the potential to create something not unlike a new Renaissance, once we can start to put more of that momentum behind things of greater moment than card games or vlogs.
In conclusion, and a full recognized over-simplification: Millenials are all right. You've got your own share of crap to deal with, some of it coming directly from the generation before, and I'm sorry. We'll get by, and in twenty years you'll have to decide for yourself how to define what your youth meant to you and the pervading culture of the age. Try not to regret mis-spending it.
I will say right now, as an old curmudgeon, that I loathe most of Twitter, I'm coming to dislike social media, and anyone who feels emojis not adequately representing them on a personal level is an actual problem needs to get their ass to a food bank or a homeless shelter and put in some volunteer hours.
I worry that the casual embrace of an evolving Internet has given many Millenials short attention spans and a willingness to elevate or destroy individual figures in a heartbeat but little follow-through when it comes to bringing about lasting change on issues that require a greater level of commitment.
But, on the other hand, I'm still open-minded enough to recognize that at least some of that probably falls to Millenials embracing the evolution of things like mobile devices and social media in a way that I do, and possibly can, not; that there are occasional evidences of real change occurring, sometimes at a hitherto unprecedented rate; and that things like Patreon, Kickstarter, etc. are rapidly reshaping the face of art and finance, and have the potential to create something not unlike a new Renaissance, once we can start to put more of that momentum behind things of greater moment than card games or vlogs.
In conclusion, and a full recognized over-simplification: Millenials are all right. You've got your own share of crap to deal with, some of it coming directly from the generation before, and I'm sorry. We'll get by, and in twenty years you'll have to decide for yourself how to define what your youth meant to you and the pervading culture of the age. Try not to regret mis-spending it.
I feel we're an imperfect bunch, prone to be very quick to the trigger on a lot of issues. That said we are if nothing else passionate about defending our rights - we just need to learn to be even handed about it.
Reminds me of those dark times when, as a kid, I listened to the Backstreet Boys (yes, a young lad listening to boy band music, dark times indeed).Guilion said:
I, too, am embarrassed by some of my early musical choices.DarklordKyo said:
~Crawling in my skin~
Wrex Brogan said:
I bought my first property in 1983, 800 m2 of bush land. Built my own house. I have liked land as an investment ever since.
Compared to now, the deposit was easier but the mortgage repayments were scary.
Interest rates were ~14% in 1983 and peaked at ~18% in early 90s (currently under 4%).
So you need more to get a house than I did, but I had to pay more to the bank to keep it.
Yes but your generation only is not to be blame. I mean for example with the raise of better phones and tablet, children and teen has become more obsess with them which those technologies did not exist (well inferior phones) many years ago.
You know my biggest peeve about baby boomers?
They won't use walking sticks. I'm a doctor and I routinely recommended walking sticks to baby boomers with bad osteoarthritis of the hip, knee and ankle. There is great evidence walking sticks reduce pain, increase mobility and allow people with OA to lose weight (another huge factor in pain control). But the majority refuse because walking sticks are for "old-people". You'll have 65year olds who'd rather be addicted to opiates than use a walking stick. They want perfect pain-free existences (never possible 100% of the time) from medication or surgery. When a damn piece of wood or plastic held in their opposite hand might significantly help their problem.
Rant over.
They won't use walking sticks. I'm a doctor and I routinely recommended walking sticks to baby boomers with bad osteoarthritis of the hip, knee and ankle. There is great evidence walking sticks reduce pain, increase mobility and allow people with OA to lose weight (another huge factor in pain control). But the majority refuse because walking sticks are for "old-people". You'll have 65year olds who'd rather be addicted to opiates than use a walking stick. They want perfect pain-free existences (never possible 100% of the time) from medication or surgery. When a damn piece of wood or plastic held in their opposite hand might significantly help their problem.
Rant over.
As a generation X'r, I'll just say that every generation is trash and would you please pass me a needle, I think I'm starting to sober up.
Also, there's a macho element to it. When it went out of fashion to carry swords in public, gentlemen would carry canes to have something to attack people with.DarklordKyo said:
I'm probably a bit older than a millenial, but I don't find them the worst at all. Laziness is not a bad thing, in fact the world could use a bit more laziness. Do-gooders have often done the most harm in the world, if not all of it. The one thing I would suggest is to lay off the social media a bit. Being alone is something to be appreciated and enjoyed and I am a bit concerned that some will grow up never having experienced it, never having the freedom from being bombarded by culture that only aloneness can grant you.