Is my new computer build poop or win?

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KapnKerfuffle

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Getting new gaming rig to play Skyrim and Dues Ex, etc. I've always wanted to build one so this is a first time build. It will be located in my living room and will also serve as a media PC. The monitor will be my plasma TV. It is important to me that it be a quiet machine so I picked a padded case and an after market cooler to minimize noise. I also threw in a sound card because I have a HT. I might want to overclock it if I'm feeling saucy. I was trying to keep it close to $1000. What say ye? Do I have enough wattage? Will it be a quiet machine?

***UPDATE*** - New build below with suggestions from posters. Let's assume I will overclock and add a second video card and SSD later.
***UPDATE 2 *** - Okay, 2nd go around. Anything else? Then I'll quit bumping.

CASE - Nexus Prominent 5 Premium Toolless Silent PC Case - $99
http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/std/sku=nexus_prominent_5.html?id=ueduHvZw
(definately not boy racerish - my new favorite description, lol- Padding for quiet. Austere and elegant. Big. 207mm wide.)

FAN - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 120mm CPU Cooler - $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

MOBO - ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s ATX - $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229

PROC - Intel Core i5-2500K - $219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
(Although with all the feature creep, I might as well go i7 at this point)

RAM - G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 - $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231461
(10 cheaper and on approved list)

HDD - HITACHI Deskstar 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s" - $64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145520
(bigger than I need, but the cache is the biggest and rpm are good, plus 6.0Gb/s)

GRAPHICS - EVGA SuperClockeD-GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB - $219.99 W/ rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604
(doesn't match the board manufacturer, but as said below, some debate about importance of that)

POWER - CORSAIR Professional Series Gold 850W Modular - $199
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015
(should be plenty of headroom. Came out 100W ahead even with dual cards. Gold may be cooler and quieter.)

TOTAL - $1073
 

Thee Prisoner

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If you don't plan on overclocking you could save some money just getting i5-2500 and saving some more by getting the H67 mobo instead of the P67.

Also that board is a crossfire mobo, so if you plan in the future using two Nvidia video cards you would want to get a board with SLI.

The power supply sits at the bottom of the case so will need to elevate the tower about 1" off the floor especially if it is on carpet!

Otherwise it looks pretty nice.

the Prisoner
 

Griffolion

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Nexus Prominent 5 Premium Toolless Silent PC Case -$99.99
http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/std/sku=nexus_prominent_5.html?id=ueduHvZw

Never heard of it, therefore can't comment.

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series 650W - $84.99 after mail-in rebate card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

Good.

Intel Core i5-2500K - $219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Good

ASUS P8P67 Intel P67 - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131705

Good

EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti - $229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Good

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 - $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445

Good

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM - $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

Good, though look at the Samsung Spinpoint F3 before pulling the trigger.

Creative PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102024

Not needed unless you're a top tier audiophile. Save the money and get a better GPU or something.

COOLER MASTER Hyper 120mm CPU Cooler - $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Good


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FreakSheet

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A few things i want to ask.

1) Are you going to get a dual graphics card setup? (maybe not now, but later on down the line) If yes, you need to either get two ATI cards, or a motherboard that supports SLI, the Nvidia dual card set up.

2) If you are getting two cards, consider a larger power supply. video cards are very power hungry.

3) Do you have 5.1 speakers? Because if not, the in board sound stuff should be enough. If I were you, I would build the thing, then see if you need it or not. If you do, just a small delay. If not, $100 savings.

4) The case, never used it, so I can give an opinion, but I do like NZXT stuff, so check em out.

5) MAKE SURE THE RAM IS ON THE APPROVED LIST. I don't know if you checked, but check the mobo site and make sure you can find that particular ram.

6) Personal thing, but I prefer to get 80+ silver or better. Just me.

Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions.

EDIT: I forgot, don't forget to factor in the cost of windows and maybe Microsoft word.

EDIT 2: Also, see if you can get the same brand motherboard and videocard, that way they have the best chance of working together.
 

jobu59749

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Instead of the western digital drive, newegg as a Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB drive that better and more reliable drive speeds....imo.
 

KapnKerfuffle

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Thee Prisoner said:
If you don't plan on overclocking you could save some money just getting i5-2500 and saving some more by getting the H67 mobo instead of the P67.

Also that board is a crossfire mobo, so if you plan in the future using two Nvidia video cards you would want to get a board with SLI.

The power supply sits at the bottom of the case so will need to elevate the tower about 1" off the floor especially if it is on carpet!

the Prisoner
- I believe I will overclock. Probably should get a better power supply.
- Ah, tis a Crossfire not SLI. Thought it was both. I did not read it carefully enough. Thanks.
- It will sit up in a media cabinet. Would never place it on the floor.

Griffolion said:
Creative PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium - $99.99

Not needed unless you're a top tier audiophile. Save the money and get a better GPU or something.
- Probably good call on that. Will try on-board and see.
- I forgot to mention that I have a blue-ray drive from old box to put in new box. I will probably also put in another DVD read/write drive for $25

FreakSheet said:
A few things i want to ask.

1) Are you going to get a dual graphics card setup? (maybe not now, but later on down the line) If yes, you need to either get two ATI cards, or a motherboard that supports SLI, the Nvidia dual card set up.

2) If you are getting two cards, consider a larger power supply. video cards are very power hungry.

3) Do you have 5.1 speakers? Because if not, the in board sound stuff should be enough. If I were you, I would build the thing, then see if you need it or not. If you do, just a small delay. If not, $100 savings.

4) The case, never used it, so I can give an opinion, but I do like NZXT stuff, so check em out.

5) MAKE SURE THE RAM IS ON THE APPROVED LIST. I don't know if you checked, but check the mobo site and make sure you can find that particular ram.

6) Personal thing, but I prefer to get 80+ silver or better. Just me.

Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions.

EDIT: I forgot, don't forget to factor in the cost of windows and maybe Microsoft word.

EDIT 2: Also, see if you can get the same brand motherboard and videocard, that way they have the best chance of working together.
1) possibly.
2) Will get better power supply.
3) Yes. Home Theater system. 7.1 actually. But I might wait.
4) they seem good.
5) Will do
6) Probably a good idea. Less heat.

- Probably get a low cost Win 7 64 bit Home Premium OEM disc.
- Will relook at board and video combo.
jobu59749 said:
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB drive that better and more reliable drive speeds....imo.
-will check

Thanks for help everyone. Anyone have anything else, fire away.
 

Griffolion

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Thee Prisoner said:
If you don't plan on overclocking you could save some money just getting i5-2500 and saving some more by getting the H67 mobo instead of the P67.

Also that board is a crossfire mobo, so if you plan in the future using two Nvidia video cards you would want to get a board with SLI.

The power supply sits at the bottom of the case so will need to elevate the tower about 1" off the floor especially if it is on carpet!

Otherwise it looks pretty nice.

the Prisoner
All 1155 motherboards are both Crossfire and SLI compliant. Check the details section of the OP's listed mobo and then check Intel's chipset specification on their site for more details.

OP: If you're over clocking and looking to SLI later down the line, you're going to want about 850W of power to give extra headroom for your PSU to breathe in. Running the PSU close to it's capacity isn't good for it, I'm always an advocate of over killing the PSU wattage wise for the sake of safety and reliability. SSD's use up minimal power, you need not factor this into power considerations.

The RAM approved list for any mobo supplier is a bit of a farce. Yes they've been proved to work by the manufacturer but so long as both the RAM and the mobo complies to DDR3 standards, anything will work.

The 80+ silver and gold brands are good for energy efficiency, but in the real world this translates to maximum $2 a month off your electricity bill compared to a bronze or one that doesn't register. And this badge doesn't indicate anything to do with reliability. Your choice of Enermax is good, but I would recommend this to you [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015&Tpk=AX%20850]. Mainly because it only uses one strong 12V rail, Enermax's PSU's use multiple mediocre ones. Multiple mediocre rails = more things to go wrong. Single rail PSU's have been consistently proven to be more reliable in their power delivery.

Again, like RAM, buying the same brand motherboard and GPU may bring some peace of mind but it's a little bit of a farce. As long as a GPU and a motherboard complies with all relevant PCI-E specifications for connectivity and power, any two will work together. My motherboard at home is Asus and my GPU is XFX. They've worked together for coming up to two years now. I'm not saying to not buy two of the same brand in this sense, but I'm just trying to make you aware that this isn't a rule of thumb you absolutely have to adhere to.

Oh is that case a NZXT one? They seem to be very boy racerish, but when it comes to cooling, they're always trumped by the likes of Antec's 902 and the HAF X. Just saying...

Don't get an OEM version of Windows. It may be cheaper but it locks your license to the parts it's installed on. When it detects a hardware change (adding in an SSD or a GPU) it get's a bit funny, you have to re-register your product etc. Spend the extra on a full retail license for less hassle in the long run.

That's all I can think of for now.
 

FreakSheet

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A few concerns.

1) My biggest, The RAM isn't on the approved list!

http://www.asrock.com/mb/memory.asp?Model=P67%20Extreme4

I couldn't find your RAM on there. While it may still work, there is no guarantee it will work properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231461&Tpk=F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2

I would recommend those. Great reviews, close to what you wanted before, low voltage, on the list, and $10 cheaper ;). If those work for you, great, otherwise look on the list, and copy the module code/# into the search field to find it.

2) For the power supply, best thing to do here, is use a minimum supply calculator.

http://support.asus.com/powersupply.aspx

This one is great, (and by Asus, so you know its awesome) and doing what i believe was your stuff, (I don't know if you'll have more hard drives, fans, cd drives, usb stuff, what ever) it said a minimum 800 watts. To be safe, always go 50 watts above what is the minimum. Better too much that won't be used, than an over drawn power supply.

3) I don't know the brand of enermax, (seems to be okay judging by the reviews) but it's always safer to go with known brands like Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, etc since they have good reputations behind them, and will make top quality.

And good idea with a modular power supply. Trust me when I say I wish I spent the extra $20.

4) Consider a hard drive with SATA 6gb/s, since its, well, faster.

Don't hesitate to PM if you're wondering anything else