Is nostalgia really that bad?

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SammiYin

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Nostalgia is one of those offhand comments people make when they don't like an old game, and other people try to defend it, but I've seen it's becoming less "socially acceptable" to embrace or even acknowledge it any more. Why is this? Have you ever picked up a game you played and loved as a child, and become that child again? I don't understand how anybody who's experienced this can look down on nostalgia at all, no of course you can't judge a game purely based on "Because I liked it when I was young", but there's got to be something for "Because I was young when I liked it"

I'm sure somebody could put this in more psychological terms [the words attachment and impressionability are resurfacing from my A levels] but should we burn those ties we have with our past because we "don't believe the game has aged well" or "can't see it as holding up any more", my question to that is so? It's not about ageing will, it's about going back to your Super Mario, and absorbing every minor detail, and getting that feeling back that you are young again and everything is so much better.

Do I think Pokemon Red is the best game ever? No, but no game will ever capture the spirit of
what gaming was for me when I was a kid better, the music, mass of pixellated monsters, dodgy sound quality and the like, all put me back in the shoes of a 10 year old who's having the time of his life playing. No modern games will give me that feeling, does that make them inferior? Of course not, Pokemon White is better than Red in almost every way [except for the Pokemon themselves, but that's for another thread and I'll need a lot more venom, strangely sanguine now], and maybe in 10 or so years I can come back to Pokemon White and maybe feel like I do now, but it's just not the same as feeling like an excited 10 year old with a whole new world to explore.

People can use nostalgia for evil, claiming older games to be the best ever made, sometimes using words like "revolutionary" or "innovation" to back them up, but that's bull, you like it and think it deserves that praise because you get back those feelings I get, that we all get when we play the games that defined our childhood, yes some people can get sucked into the trap of believing us when we praise these games, and then be disappointed or even outraged that such games exist, let alone are so highly regarded, but that's ok too, they won't understand. I can't imagine I'd like Megaman if I played it, and I don't like the old sonics now that I have, but I can see that other people who did play them when they were about can love them, because they were there when they were in a much happier frame of mind.

Gone on a bit too long with this and I've probably dug myself quite a few holes, but I leave you with this, nostalgia may not be useful for determining the best game ever, and you should take anybody who does so with a few heaps of salt, but that doesn't mean it's not your best game.
I can play Pokemon Red, OoT and Super Mario Bros 3, and not judge how the games have aged, but how I've aged. and nothing else will give me the feeling that I haven't at all, and that I'm just an excited little boy playing videogames.
So excuse me while I put on my rose tinted glasses, and go off to catch the 151 Pokemon that actually exist. But what do you guys think?
 

Nimcha

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Nostalgia isn't bad when talking about those old games and how much we enjoyed them and sometimes still enjoy them.

It is bad however when extrapolated and usually hyperboled to today's games.
 

Acidwell

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Its one thing to dust off an old game like mario bros 3 and play it or even to re-release it on current console so people can experience the glory.
What isn't ok is releasing a "new" mario game like the last wii one which was a copy of all the old mario games.

Nostalgia is awesome until it stops progress or advancement of new games and its nintendo who are guilty of this the most. Pity really.
 

surg3n

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Nostalgia is fine as long as whomever is being nostalgic is also being realistic. I am a big fan of retro gaming, retro movies too, the things I played and watched when I was young. I can fondly remember games like Bubble Bobble and Black Tiger, and still play them - but I don't feel the same way about console games. I think we can only really feel nostalgic when there's a chance we might never see it again - like that movie your saw as a kid but don't remember the name or who was in it, so might never get to see it again. With arcade games, you knew that the game wouldn't be there forever, but you knew that it would be replaced with another game.

I'm nostalgic about arcades more than anything - not just the games but the sound, smell, lighting, everything. The local arcade when I was a kid had great games, it smelt like wet sand, and the owner would let us hang around all day if we wanted, even if we didn't have any money.
 

AyreonMaiden

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To me, it is sometimes.

How many times have you heard this: "Nintendo is so stale, all they do is sell you the same old franchises."

Then you hear the same people do this: FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP...whenever a game with pixelly dogshit graphics like a fucking NES comes out.

No one is guiltier of this than indie gaming. And who could blame them? Indie devs are small and broke. They NEED to make games of a simpler nature, and what's simpler than old-school sensibilities?

But they also know that the retro shit SELLS. Nothing will get you noticed like making your game look like a NES "but with particle effects and shit." It makes me sick to my ass. I play Muramasa and the remake of A Boy and his Blob, and I look at Skullgirls too...and fucking cry in my soup. We're capable of that level of 2d art...and we insist on dogshit pixels and bleeps-bloops for the adventure games? Why do 2d fighters get all the beauty?

I was born in 89, began gaming at 3 years old, had a NES and an Atari that I played the hell out of, and would often visit friends and cousins to play on their 16 bit consoles. And I say FUCK retro shit.

Nothing brings out double-standards quite like nostalgia.
 

Watchmacallit

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Nostalgia pisses me off when people say that these days games are horrible compared to the ones from 15 years ago when in reality if those games were released for the first time today, they would be shit.

Mario: Horrible graphics. Extremely linear with a basic story line and no character customisation. You know where I've heard those comments? About games from this year. But Mario is still seen as a masterpiece, it was only good because it was one of the first.

I love playing my PS1 games (Megaman X4, Suikoden 2, Gex 3D) at my age but I don't make out like they are godly compared to games that come out now because games that come out now are much better.
 

proandi

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I'd agree nostalgia is great but it's totally in the eye of the beholder as it were. Recently OOT was released as we all know, and I went out and got it. As fun as it is for me all the familiar music and sounds bring me right back to when I first played it, it's a bit of a bummer that I'm thrashing my way through it so quickly and can't help I'm missing some of the hours of exploring I did as a kid but I like to think I'm generally better at games now and the world isn't as big as it seemed as a kid.

However I agree games can't be defended by it was innovative for the time, it really may well have been but it comes down to the fact of personal preferences for the games you like. Personally I love retro games and go on nostalgia binges from time to time and break out the NES and SNES.

The only thing that does bother me with modern games however is some gameplay mechanics, games of the past seemed to master the consoles they made games for by squeezing every drop out of the machines hardware whereas it does feel that these days developers have too much power to play with and they hash a lot of rubbish out because it's easy.