I saw Cars 2 last night, I actually thought it was way better than the first one. Even if the focus was on Mater, it was really good.
is pixar milking cars?
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So a mediocre CGI film (i.e. good kids film) that sold a lot of merchandise got a sequel and...you're mad because they're forcing you to watch it over and over, right? They're literally pulling the bills right from your wallet and not allowing anything else to play on your television set, I'm sure?
If you want to see a franchise that was milked to death, rejuvenated by healing lightning, and shot in the head by a point-blank shotgun blast, look at The Land Before Time.
If you want to see a franchise that was milked to death, rejuvenated by healing lightning, and shot in the head by a point-blank shotgun blast, look at The Land Before Time.
They obviously are yes, but it was always a kids only cartoon so unless you are 12 or less it really shouldn't concern you.
Look for better things, don't burden yourself with the bad ones.
Look for better things, don't burden yourself with the bad ones.
actually that's all Disney, Didsney wants a Cars 3 but Pixar's having none of that so Disneys invented their own spin-off dubbedd ''Planes'' to compensate, I believe I read somewhere that the next Pixar movie will be a prequal to Monster's Inc.Sean Hollyman said:
I've never understood why so many people don't like Cars. Granted, the premise of it wasn't enough to make me want to see it in theaters, but once I did see it on T.V., I thought it was good. Not the best one (Wall-E is my favorite), but certainly not the flaming evil that everyone makes it out to be.
Making a sequel does not mean someone is milking a franchise. Nor does making a third movie, as many things come in sets of three. Something about the human mind liking that number. If there's another story worth telling, then it's not milking it. Now, if they make another Cars movie, then I'll believe they're milking it a little, but if it's good then I won't care.
And for the record, I like Mater's Tall Tales. They're funny little shorts.
Making a sequel does not mean someone is milking a franchise. Nor does making a third movie, as many things come in sets of three. Something about the human mind liking that number. If there's another story worth telling, then it's not milking it. Now, if they make another Cars movie, then I'll believe they're milking it a little, but if it's good then I won't care.
And for the record, I like Mater's Tall Tales. They're funny little shorts.
Idk I watched it at a drive in last night and thought it was pretty awesome. A great homage to the old spy movies, and the constant bashing on junker cars like the Ford Pinto gave me a good laugh. Not to mention all the little touches they put in to make it really funny for people who knew a lot about real life cars, like where mater starts rambling off problems with different parts of volkswagen engines. It didnt have as big of a life lesson in it as the first one (except for the part where mater learns that he cant act crazy the whole time) but it had some pretty dark moments for a kid movie. I still feel bad for that american spy car, and quite a few pintos meet an untimely demise as well.
But thats just my opinion though. I'm sure plenty of people will comment on how wrong I am and attempt to disprove my enjoyment, because obviously my opinion is wrong. Yeah Cars has been the weakest Pixar series, but I still think its a pretty good series in its own right. I saw it and the green lantern back to back and it deffinitely beat the heck out of green lantern hands down.
Yes, I'm being completely serious. No, I'm not trolling.
But thats just my opinion though. I'm sure plenty of people will comment on how wrong I am and attempt to disprove my enjoyment, because obviously my opinion is wrong. Yeah Cars has been the weakest Pixar series, but I still think its a pretty good series in its own right. I saw it and the green lantern back to back and it deffinitely beat the heck out of green lantern hands down.
Yes, I'm being completely serious. No, I'm not trolling.
with a minute few changes to what was said, including overall tone and final points, isn't this pretty much what movie bob was saying?zombie711 said:
but, frankly, disney cartoons (pixar included) have always pandered to children. do you think that a five year old is going to wonder why the characters are shallow? or that there are very deep story lines to the toy story movies? i know of no child who cares about that. it's all "bright colors" and "entertaining story line". i'm not sure as to why people are angry over things like this. pixar was never lambda lambda lambda. it was always and will always be grade school.
I hate it to see Pixar turning Cars or movies in general into cash cows. Cars 1 was a decent movie, but far from the best Pixar movies, but it made them a lot of money because the toys sell so well. this is just another oppertunity to make a lot of money off of little kids who want the Aston Martin spy-car. Cars had no need or outcry for a sequel, it was solely made because Pixar needs money fast.
No, the problem the OP faces is, I think, that instead of spending a lot of time making a low quantity of good movies they make some quick low(er) quality ones (which make about as much money)shrekfan246 said:
I understand him but I also think it's an unavoidable problem, money's gotta roll..
My point was that even a "low" quality Pixar movie is still a "good" movie and a sequel of all things does not qualify as milking a franchise. Yeah, there are tons of Cars shorts, but those aren't thrown in your face and I can't imagine they've made loads of money for Pixar. In contrast, my example "The Land Before Time" had thirteen movies and none of them after the first (arguably the second as well depending on how young you were when you saw it) were good at all.headshotcatcher said:
EDIT: Also, there is no one forcing him or anyone else to spend money on Cars 2, so there is no reason for him to complain about it if he doesn't work for any of the companies involved in the creation of it.
Extra EDIT: And it may not have even been Pixar's idea to make a sequel. The business world is run by the people who market and publish everything - In this case, Disney. Like other people have said, it could have worked out as follows: Disney sees a huge amount of Cars merchandise being moved, they decide that a sequel would be a great way to move even more merchandise, they make money, they win. Obviously that's only speculation, but seriously - The business world runs on money more so than anything else, which is saying something.
Kind of what I am thinking. Let's also think about the fact that our 16-year-old OP (and probably most of the Rotton Tomatoes' voters) is looking at a children's movie through a serious-adult's eyes. There is a problem with that. I liked Moviebob's review of it personally. Look at it the way you would a parody and the movie would probably seem a lot better.ZeroMachine said:
Still your comment says nothing about the manpower that is diverted from making 'good' movies (so to speak), but that's alright since it's not my argument or problem at allshrekfan246 said:
but yeah I get both sides
Eh, see my Extra EDIT in the last post. It's not exactly like Pixar has been working non-stop on movie after movie in the last few years, anyway. Again, a "low" quality Pixar movie is still usually better than a "low" quality any other movie, in my experience.headshotcatcher said:Still your comment says nothing about the manpower that is diverted from making 'good' movies (so to speak), but that's alright since it's not my argument or problem at all
The thing about Toy Story was that all three movies were thematically consistent with each other and contained the same cast of characters and the same message (the importance of friendship, love, and loyalty). Plus the characters have, well, character; they're not "merchandise" to viewers, they're beloved characters on par with Mickey Mouse.maninahat said:
Cars and Cars 2 are almost entirely different beasts. Cars was a coming-of-age, small-town-life, bigshot-is-humbled story. It worked pretty well because the story was a simple one. Cars 2 is The Naked Gun, with anthropomorphic cars, a handful of the same characters, and a very poorly-constructed "OIL IS EVIL!" message.
The problems come from quality. Toy Story's sequels were brilliant and built up/paid off a lot of emotional investment; they came out years and years apart because they were being held to a high standard of quality. Cars 2 seems... rushed, and like a deliberate cash-grab rather than the Pixar platinum-standard we're used to.
Don't be silly, even if that were physically impossible, it would be highly disturbing material to put in a children's fi- oh, you mean metaphorically.
Err, I guess so. I haven't seen the original, so I can't judge as well but from my experience, any Pixar is good Pixar!
Err, I guess so. I haven't seen the original, so I can't judge as well but from my experience, any Pixar is good Pixar!
Pixar had always intended to make a sequel to Cars. Its pretty much the only one of their franchises other than Toy Story thats really open to it.
And its not "franchise milking" if its only the second movie. I swear, they should just rename the Escapist "Franchise Milking: Pushing the Industry Forward" for the forum's two favorite buzz terms.
And its not "franchise milking" if its only the second movie. I swear, they should just rename the Escapist "Franchise Milking: Pushing the Industry Forward" for the forum's two favorite buzz terms.
i'm gonna say what's it's fair to say everyone on here is saying,
your spelling is hilarious
the title put a wierd image in my head
"Planes" just made me laugh out loud, i'm actually having trouble believing some of this stuff!
your spelling is hilarious
the title put a wierd image in my head
"Planes" just made me laugh out loud, i'm actually having trouble believing some of this stuff!
oh, for sure. I saw it, then watched moviebob's review and found myself agreeing with most everything he said. They kind of acknowledge that this isn't supposed to be a deep movie, just something entertaining and profitable. It is kind of sad, though. Pixar has a reputation of producing nothing but the best and after watching this I feel the need to shout "sell out!"