Is professional wrestling the most powerful martial art?

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Palindromemordnilap said:
That is kind of what you're doing though. One is a martial art, the other is a performance. To which my counter point is; aren't the all just performances? Like with your example, you could put someone ina sleeper hold which would choke them out...in theory. Because you're not actually going to do it. If you actually hurt anyone with anything more serious than a bruise you've done it wrong. There's supposed to be a modicum of safety. So my question is why wrestling seems to get the short end of the stick when its not really got more scripting than "real" martial arts, its simply more open and obvious about it
Well, there is the fact that its both pre-determined, and many moves are done co-operatively (effectively being a co-operative gymnastics routine or a stunt show if you prefer). There's plenty of real maneuvers applied at the same general level you would perform while sparring, but there's also some stuff that's whole cloth performance and would never work on any kind of resisting opponent unless you were ungodly overpowering to them.

While there is a ton of physical conditioning, and training that goes into pro wrestling, and they are certainly top tier athletes. You wouldn't go to a karate competition and see the opponent grabbing the guys foot and boosting him into a spinning roundhouse kick. Maneuvers are what they are, and they're applied to an opponent that is attempting to defend the maneuver, not actively assisting it. One is a competitive or combative affair, while the other is two (or more) performers creating the illusion of such with grains of realism in it.

As to its broader stigma, I don't understand it. It is essentially just the long running version of a Rocky film, or whatever.
 

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Silentpony said:
No, straight up. Its acting, theater. Its not a martial art at all. Those 'wrestlers' are basically dancing.
If dancing involved more body slamming people from the top of a ladder and through a table I'd be a regular attendee of the ballet
 

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Really, it all depends on what you mean by "Powerful". If you're talking about the amount of muscle, endurance, and talent required to do it, then yeah, it's super powerful.

If by "Powerful" you mean its odds of stopping a mugger or a real life enemy combatant, well, I suppose it helps to have a ton of muscle and to be able to take a punch, but good luck piledriving someone who actively trying not to be piledriven.

Same goes for a number of martial arts to a lesser extent, but I doubt that a professional wrestler could beat a Krav Maga expert.
 

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sageoftruth said:
Really, it all depends on what you mean by "Powerful". If you're talking about the amount of muscle, endurance, and talent required to do it, then yeah, it's super powerful.

If by "Powerful" you mean its odds of stopping a mugger or a real life enemy combatant, well, I suppose it helps to have a ton of muscle and to be able to take a punch, but good luck piledriving someone who actively trying not to be piledriven.

Same goes for a number of martial arts to a lesser extent, but I doubt that a professional wrestler could beat a Krav Maga expert.
No way, once they get up on the top rope, it's all over for the mugger!