Is Quantum Break the Real Max Payne 3?

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Hello,

So all my friends and fellow gamers here. I was looking forward to Quantum break since it was announced but i always wanted on PC which im glad is coming. on the other hand Rockstar has ruined max payne 3 in almost evey possible way to the point it feel like generic action game with long unskippable cinematic every door and has forgettable story.

Quantum break on other hand looks like what Max payne 3 should have been. instead of bullet time they now have time manipulated powers and story is written by sam lake means without a doubt it will have best story this year by default.

so what do you think? will it be real Max payne 3 which we fans waited for?

 

[kiri3tsubasa]

No, the real Max Payne 3 is Max Payne 3. Quantum Break is Quantum Break, nothing else.

 

[tippy2k2]

I watched about a minute worth of Quantum Break Youtube game footage (as a general rule, I avoid all info on games before they are actually released so I don't waste my time but I figured I should at least look before I comment) and I don't see it....like....at all.

I guess for one, I liked Max Payne 3. While I would certainly entertain the argument that it was the weakest game of the Max Payne series, I didn't think it was a bad game. It was enjoyable enough for me and I played it through.

For second, that minute looked absolutely nothing like Max Payne. I don't remember being able to stop time in Max Payne nor do I remember being able to throw a...uh...time grenade? I'm not sure what the hell that was but it made the bad guy slow down in that bubble. I also don't remember Max Payne being able to just stop time and run around. Also, I don't remember the giant robot looking bad guys. Maybe I caught a bad minute of gameplay and that's nothing like the actual game but that guy was able to do waaaaay more than just bullet time.

Spoiler: For reference, I watched from 8:30 to about 9:30 of this clip

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Even in regards to bullet time, this game looks nothing like Max Payne.

So no.

It is not the real Max Payne 3. Max Payne 3 is the real Max Payne 3.

 

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Not at all. It has an over the shoulder camera, unlike every Max Payne including 3, where the close over the shoulder camera is optional. It's cover based and only has two handed weapons, versus the extravagant John Woo style of dual wielding, exposing oneself and leaping through the air. It also has auto aim with tracking. Most importantly, the style is all different. Max Payne 3 looks more noir than this. The fact that you're always shitting on Max Payne 3 and then call this a Max Payne game makes me think you don't even know what Max Payne is. Pretender. Rockstar treated the IP well. Their only big error is not making a fourth game.

Max payne 3 has cover, cinematic after each door and terrible story. it feel like linear GTA with bullettime especially compare to Original games made by Remedy. Im a long time max payne fan my friend.

rockstar ruined it.

 

[JohnnyDelRay]

Max Payne 3 was great. It had the gravelly narration, exaggerated dark metaphors, good gunplay and action, and set in a new exciting setting. I really liked the direction it went. Even though colors went brighter, the story stayed as dark and miserable as ever.

The only thing that MP3 fucked up is that god danged fucking Rockstart Social Club curse on this earth. It took me so long to get it running the first time years ago. In fact, I recently tried to replay it and it still gave me trouble. The game started hanging and corrupted my save file. I couldn't even finish the last 3 chapters because you can't borrow someone else's save game - it's tied to you fucking Rockstar profile!

Rant over, no, this game doesn't look anything like a Max Payne game, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The only thing you said is that it has time manipulation and is written by Sam Lake. So by that logic any game with time manipulation should be Max Payne. Timeshift, Singularity, fucking Prince of Persia.

Best story by default? I love Sam Lake's writing, but that's a bit of a stretch.

 

[Diablo1099_v1legacy]

Best story by default? I love Sam Lake's writing, but that's a bit of a stretch.

I'll admit, the plot of Max Payne 3 wasn't the best, but where it really shined was how the characters were written and played.
I could watch that intro scene of Max settling into his new home a hundred times, they did a really good job there.

 

[JohnnyDelRay]

Best story by default? I love Sam Lake's writing, but that's a bit of a stretch.

I'll admit, the plot of Max Payne 3 wasn't the best, but where it really shined was how the characters were written and played.
I could watch that intro scene of Max settling into his new home a hundred times, they did a really good job there.

I actually love the writing of Max Payne 3. Say it however, it actually gave some kind of mild justification for all the shooting and killing you do, which outside of war games, is just insane otherwise. However, Sam Lake didn't write Max Payne 3 I don't think. I know he wrote the first 2, and he's also writing Quantum, which is why I think the OP is calling it "the real Max Payne 3", although "spiritual successor" I think would suit better. But I don't know jack about the plot so I'm not saying anything.

Sorry what I meant by saying "it's a bit of a stretch" is just that you can't say something will have the best story by default, that's just jumping the gun, and very much discrediting anything else that could come out in the rest of this year.

 

[Ambient_Malice]

Max Payne 3 was Max Payne as a Grand Theft Auto character. Whether this is a good or a bad thing really comes down to whether you like the Houser Bros and their writing style. However, Max Payne 3 stars Max Payne, keeps him reasonably in character, and continues his adventures. It is a Max Payne game. It's not like Tomb Raider 2013, where you can reasonably object that this "new" character isn't really Lara Croft. Max Payne 3 Max Payne is Max Payne.

As for gameplay, just because some people don't like the constant string of cutscenes in "muh first Man of Fire knock-off" style doesn't make them artistically invalid. There's no rule that says Max Payne games have to have a specific cutscene-to-gameplay ratio.

As for Quantum Break, I don't think enough of the game has been revealed to really say anything for certain. It's a third person shooter by the development team behind Mad Max and Alan Wake.

But Battlefield 4 is an FPS by the lead designer of Alan Wake, and we don't go around calling Battlefield 4 the "true successor" to Alan Wake, do we?

 

[DudeistBelieve]

The thing that made Max Payne was the narration and the noir tone, the shooting mechanic while innovative for it's time, was really simplistic and kinda gimmicky... I think we all gave it a pass because the writing was just solid.

MP3 had the gameplay down. The story tone? Not so much. There was a romantic poetic quality to Max's despair in the first two games, but by 3 that's stripped away and it's just... despair. And theres nothing wrong with the story, I actually think it's a good story. I like that Max has the money by the end of the game, he's stopped drinking and might actually finally find peace. That's okay. But the stylistic choices they made.... Didn't ruin the game, it ruined the Max Payne-ness.

So... okay, this new game has a bullet time mechanic but unless it has it's main character narrating how the "The wind blew the snow down the street with the same violent temper that filled my own soul. My barretta stirred nervously under my coat, seemingly knowing before I did that things were about to get heavy. I pushed the button to call the elevator, the unit gave a mocking cackle as it flashed DENIED in bright bold letters."

Ya know, that type shit? Then it's not Max Payne-like to me.

 

[Dalisclock]

I will totally agree that MP3 was the weakest in the series, both in tone and in atmosphere(with some issues with gameplay as well). However, it was close enough to call it a Max Payne game.

And really, the MP series is over. Let it be. Let Max walk away and be done.

 

[MrCalavera_v1legacy]

No, i'm pretty sure Quantum Break is Quantum Break. You may as well be asking if Alan Wake was the real Max Payne 3.

 

[Kae]

The real Max Payne 3 is the easter egg notes about what Max Payne 3 would have been that you can find in Alan Wake, Quantum Break looks like it's own thing which is good, I love Remedy they are awesome and I want to see them try more things like Quantum Break, even if narratively it seems like a completely different thing to what Remedy usually does, there don't seem to be any hints at a meta narrative on this one nor does it seem like a self-aware satire that takes itself seriously and works well as both a satire and a horror/noir story which is what Max Payne and Alan Wake were, it's kind of sad because I do love that style but I do want to see them try new things.


And yeah, fuck Max Payne 3, Rockstar's shitty game design and Dan Houser's shitty writing, I'll take whatever opportunity I get to shit on Max Payne 3, fuck that game.

 

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Thank you, everyone in this thread for ripping Brain-Cell's baseless assertion of Quantum Break being some kind of spiritual successor to Max Payne to shreds. Faith in my fellow gamer has been restored. This nimrod has been toting this half baked notion from forum to forum for some time now and I'm glad all of you, to a person has each illustrated just how ridiculous his claim is.

It's petty, but everyone's reactions to this thread has given me a profound sense of joy hahahaha.

I respect your opinion my friend but this is factually correct that Max payne 3 is not Max payne. Quantum break is true follower of Max payne and will have sam lake quality of writing and atmosphere.

 

[Elijin]

I respect your opinion my friend but this is factually correct that Max payne 3 is not Max payne. Quantum break is true follower of Max payne and will have sam lake quality of writing and atmosphere.

You are a magical.

Its subjectively correct that you find Max Payne to be a disappointment, and that you like to pretend its not a thing. But factually correct that the licensed and published product is not the product? No. No. Nooooooooo.

 

[StormShaun]

If you ask me.
It looks like it'll become one of those games that'll completely fail in a big way. One of those "biggest disappointment of the year" titles.
That's just some kind of instinct I feel from this game. Personally, apart from that, it doesn't look appealing to me.

But hey, the only Max Payne I've played, is Max Payne 3... and guess what?
I liked it, and it didn't compel me to play the former games in the series at all.
Well, unless they got a HD remake.