im personally one who believes it was a solid 70 years ago therefore you can quote hitler as much as you want.. people can still have their opinions but theres certainly nothing against it.
Is quoting Hitler in poor taste?
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Hitler had a lot of good quotes and so did Stalin and Mao.
Sure those people were crazy evil fucks abut there is still a lot we can learn from them. just because someone Is wrong about one thing does not automatically render all their opinions invalid
Sure those people were crazy evil fucks abut there is still a lot we can learn from them. just because someone Is wrong about one thing does not automatically render all their opinions invalid
its in the past and we should be able to talk about the past, that includes quotations.
that's my view.
that's my view.
The usage of historical quotes is all about context, how and why a particular quote is being used. I'd personally have no problem with the quote mentioned but some do get very sensitive about any mention of Hitler that does not instantly called him a monster. Mentioning Hitler in a non negative way does not mean you're mentioning him in a good light either, so the quote is not bad taste but I can see your trepidation in using it.
The problem is that to quote someone, is to show some amount respect to them (not necessarily a lot though), so the question is, can a man like Hitler deserve even the smallest amount of respect?
The answer to that question is entirely up to you.
EDIT: For clarification, I'm referring to quotes like the one you used, ones with their own stand-alone message, rather than if you were saying "Hitler was once reported to have said ...".
The answer to that question is entirely up to you.
EDIT: For clarification, I'm referring to quotes like the one you used, ones with their own stand-alone message, rather than if you were saying "Hitler was once reported to have said ...".
To a certain extent, it is in poor taste.
You can't be a Nazi or a fundamentalist without believing in the ideals so quoting doesn't make you one, however, it wouldn't be something I'd be entirely comfortable with.
OT: I really have a thing against people who claim 'I know Hitler was bad but he was a great tactician' or 'I'm not endorsing Hitler but he had some really good ideas' when they're just trying to seem like masters on the subject when, in reality, they haven't got a clue.
You can't be a Nazi or a fundamentalist without believing in the ideals so quoting doesn't make you one, however, it wouldn't be something I'd be entirely comfortable with.
OT: I really have a thing against people who claim 'I know Hitler was bad but he was a great tactician' or 'I'm not endorsing Hitler but he had some really good ideas' when they're just trying to seem like masters on the subject when, in reality, they haven't got a clue.
Hitler was a public speaker and arguably one of the best. He managed to talk germans into voting for him and make his war crimes seem justifiable to them. Of course he is a cruel fucker but quoting him is fine as some of the less evil-driven ideas of his were quite ingenious; I think restarting the currency and at least taking back the Rhine was fairly in order, it's what any strong leader would have done in those times.
The sanctions imposed on Germany after the Great War were absolutely terrible and quite possibly the primary factor as to how Hitler even got into power as his people wanted their land back. WWI was surrendered by Germany when it had only started losing, thus making the punishments ovewhelming to the people. He used this anger to fuel WWII.
The sanctions imposed on Germany after the Great War were absolutely terrible and quite possibly the primary factor as to how Hitler even got into power as his people wanted their land back. WWI was surrendered by Germany when it had only started losing, thus making the punishments ovewhelming to the people. He used this anger to fuel WWII.
Well, I wouldn't throw it to an employer (unless you're going for a job as a Historian), but I keep the following on hand when it comes to Britain:Pimppeter2 said:
"The British can be counted upon to carry through to victory and struggle that it once enters upon, no matter how long such a struggle may last or however great the sacrifices that may be necessary or whatever the means that have to be employed. All this even though the actual military equipment at hand may be utterly inadequate when compared to that of other nations".
Thats a Hitler quote, I'm in no way pro Hitler, but it demonstrates that before the war he held us in great respect to the point he didn't want to fight us (his original plan involved forcing Britain into a peace treaty after the defeat of France, which flew in the face of his own quote(above), pointing out that we're far too pig-headed to surrender just because the odds are heavily stacked against us.
In short, I think it's okay to take your enemy's words if they're in praise of you.
I have a Masters in History.
A large part of my research was on the elements surrounding the rise and fall of Nazi Germany. So, you can have whatever opinion you want when I say the following:
- Hitler was a fantastic public speaker and a master of rhetoric (although with a horrendous tendency to rant).
- Hitler had some very clever ideas
- Hitler did not personally order the Holocaust (although he was aware of it, and approved of it)
- Hitler lost his marbles and made some very poor decisions based on emotions which ultimately contributed to his downfall.
These are opinions I have formed based on my knowledge. I also hold the opinion that he, and many of his party, were some of the most evil people in History.
Take away from that what you will.
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