Is Revan a Light Sith or a Dark Jedi? *possible minor spoilers*

[KingofMadCows]

KotoR 2 tied Revan's story much more heavily with other stories and themes explored in the game. It all starts with a very simple question, why does the Republic exist? After all, people don't just join the Republic because it's cool. The Republic exists for a reason.

The Republic is essentially an economic and military alliance. There is the promise of mutual defense and trade. If you're a member of the Republic, it's much easier to trade with other Republic worlds. If your world gets attacked, other Republic worlds will come to your defense.

So what happens when that promise is broken? What happens if your world gets attacked and none of your Republic allies come to help or it takes them a really long time help? How eager will you be to lend your aid to other Republic worlds when they get attacked?

That question was answered during the Mandalorian War. The True Sith orchestrated the Mandalorian War to reveal the hypocrisy within the Republic (and the Jedi). The Core worlds were slow to respond to the Mandalorian invasion of the Rim worlds and they did not mount a real defense until they were threatened. As a result, faith in the Republic itself was shaken. Republic worlds were no longer willing to fight to defend the Republic or its principles since their so called allies won't fight for them.

That is why Revan sacrificed himself to the dark side. He would either unite the galaxy under his own banner, or he would remind the Republic and the Jedi of the principles that they stand for, have their beliefs reaffirmed once more through the war, and unite to defeat him, growing stronger and wiser through their victory.

 

[Nami nom noms]

What I found amusing was the fact that I played a male, light-side revan who got with bastila, and everything worked out fine... and a Female light-side exile both of whom looked the most like their canon appearances.

And this was before they had even established what the canon outcome was.

Guess I just naturally play by the rules

 

[TheLogicalGamer]

Darth Revan is neither Jedi or Sith. He is simply the only Master of the Force. Jedi master the light side, and Sith master the dark side. Jedi attempt to serve the force, Sith attempt to command the force. Jedi use the force to serve the force, Sith attempt to command and control the force.

Revan has two different lives, at least in canon, to draw knowledge from. He has the lifetime as Darth Revan, an tactician, Sith Lord, and master of the Dark Side. Then there is his life as Jedi Master Revan, an hero of the republic, master of the light side, and husband to Bastila Shan.

Once his memories from his first life resurfaced completely, he was able to understand the force in its entirety. He could see and understand both sides of the force, and the fact that they are dependent on each-other. Without the light, there is no darkness. Without Darkness, the light can not exist. By simply drawing upon both sides at once, Revan is more powerful than any other force user.

Those traits make Revan something different from Jedi or Sith, he is the only being who can be called a Master of the Force as a whole.

Yes... I just geeked out.

Short version, Revan is master of the entire force, light and dark. He is literally power incarnate and I pity the fool who gets in his way.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

He can be what you make him considering the point values.

Born Again Jedi
Gray Jedi
Dark Jedi
Sith

 

[TheLogicalGamer]

Darth Revan is neither Jedi or Sith. He is simply the only Master of the Force. Jedi master the light side, and Sith master the dark side. Jedi attempt to serve the force, Sith attempt to command the force. Jedi use the force to serve the force, Sith attempt to command and control the force.

Revan has two different lives, at least in canon, to draw knowledge from. He has the lifetime as Darth Revan, an tactician, Sith Lord, and master of the Dark Side. Then there is his life as Jedi Master Revan, an hero of the republic, master of the light side, and husband to Bastila Shan.

Once his memories from his first life resurfaced completely, he was able to understand the force in its entirety. He could see and understand both sides of the force, and the fact that they are dependent on each-other. Without the light, there is no darkness. Without Darkness, the light can not exist. By simply drawing upon both sides at once, Revan is more powerful than any other force user.

Those traits make Revan something different from Jedi or Sith, he is the only being who can be called a Master of the Force as a whole.

Yes... I just geeked out.

Short version, Revan is master of the entire force, light and dark. He is literally power incarnate and I pity the fool who gets in his way.

Quote from Revan in TOR
"I was Sith. I AM JEDI!"

Im basing this off of the Revan in TOR. oh spoilers...

I think i have finally found something we can all agree on, Revan was a Force User.

 

[KingofMadCows]

Just as well. He had no personality or motivation beyond "ME AM PLOT DEVICE!"

Nihilus was meant to be a void. Everything that he was, everything that he used to be, was consumed by his hunger. He was meant to be like a black hole, visible only by his effects on the universe.

Personally, I find Obsidian games plodding and aimless. Was Kreia deep? Sure. Doesn't make KOTOR 2 a good story; the pacing was shit, everyone BESIDES Kreia pretty much took a back seat, and even if Obsidian completed the game as they intended, these issues would've still been around. I've found more ambiguous morality in Dragon Age than I did KOTOR 2.

I would agree with this for Peragus and most of Telos. However, KotoR 2's story is still good without Kreia. It expanded a lot on things from KotoR like Revan, the Mandalorian War, why the Jedi didn't want to fight, etc. It dealt with a lot of ideas and themes Star Wars generally ignores, like the consequences of war, how people feel about the Jedi, why the Republic exists, etc. And at its core, KotoR 2 is really the story of a broken veteran suffering from PTSD having to deal with the consequences of her actions during the war, and coming to the realization that she not only has the strength to survive but can also gain new wisdom and understanding from the experience.

And you can't compare Dragon Age's morality to KotoR 2 since KotoR 2 is limited by the franchise. There is already an established good and evil side in Star Wars.