Is Sauron a minion?

[archaicmalevolence]

Since reading through Lord of the Rings for the first time (up to the last book now). I've noticed that some wording in the book mentioned that Sauron was merely a emissary or servant for some greater overlord. Was wondering what everyone else's views were on this, as Tolkien could of been working on a sequel for the Middle Earth series but passed away before he could finish or begin it.

 

[Miumaru]

As Dragonball Z shows, no matter how powerful, there is always someone stronger.

 

[Lt.Snuffles]

Could you put the quote up please?

 

[Cherry Cola]

It was such a long time ago since I read Silmarillion, so I can't remember names.

All you need to know is that Sauron worked for the evil God. Then that god was banished from earth, and Sauron continued his evil work.

I believe that's how the story goes.

And it was never a sequel. Silmarillion is a prequel.

 

[Emperor Platypus]

As Dragonball Z shows, no matter how powerful, there is always someone stronger.

I never looked at it that way..... thanks, thanks for finally showing me what DBZ was all about.


OT:

I think at the time of Lord of the rings he no-longer is the minion. His boss get's killed off (from what I remember) by the elves when they first came to middle earth.

 

[SpadeJester]

yes, Sauron is a minion, which his master is sealed inside the void...(Isn't the concept of voids over used?) ohh and his master's name is Morgoth

 

[Electric Gel]

Tolkien in the Silmarillion suggested that there were gods at work in Middle Earth. Sauron could easily be a servant of a dark god who remains at large. Tom Bombadil was actually a hobbit ancestor deity

He was a bit tall for that wasn't he? I bet he had bloody stilts on under those stripy trousers the lying little sod.

OT, as people have said he served a higher evil. There's always another bloody rung to that evil chain, no matter who you manage to defeat.

 

[Ph33onix]

It was such a long time ago since I read Silmarillion, so I can't remember names.

All you need to know is that Sauron worked for the evil God. Then that god was banished from earth, and Sauron continued his evil work.

I believe that's how the story goes.

And it was never a sequel. Silmarillion is a prequel.

What he said

Exept that Sauron did not work directly for the god i think there was a giant spider that was the middle man between them although I MAY be wrong.

 

[Sam Vimes]

yes, Sauron is a minion, which his master is sealed inside the void...(Isn't the concept of voids over used?) ohh and his master's name is Morgoth

I don't think it was overused around 1916 in the trenches wich was were Tolkien began to write the Silmarillion !

 

[Ensiferum]

I think of it more like Sauron was initially a minion of Morgoth but when Morgoth was overthrown Sauron rose up to take his place.

 

[SpadeJester]

yes, Sauron is a minion, which his master is sealed inside the void...(Isn't the concept of voids over used?) ohh and his master's name is Morgoth

I don't think it was overused around 1916 in the trenches wich was were Tolkien began to write the Silmarillion !

a good point,though he didn't write it then,and the book was first published after his death...so yea...

 

[Nocta-Aeterna]

It was such a long time ago since I read Silmarillion, so I can't remember names.

All you need to know is that Sauron worked for the evil God. Then that god was banished from earth, and Sauron continued his evil work.

I believe that's how the story goes.

And it was never a sequel. Silmarillion is a prequel.

What he said

Indeed, though more a luitenant than a minion. Also, Sauron, the Balrogs and the Istari (Gandalf and friends) are/were al Maia: sort of lesser gods or angels compared to the Valar. Sauron, the Balrogs and other Maia who turned evil continuously lost power due to their corruption, while the Istari were nerfed on purpose by the Valar.

Tom Bombadil was actually a hobbit ancestor deity

Nobody knows what Tom Bombadil is. At the very least, I believe he was there before the elves came.

 

[Zorg Machine]

All the gods created the world with music but melkor (one of the great gods) was an asshole and decided to be evil. he took a lesser god (sauron) and lot's of spirits and such (balrogs) and created evil stuff (orcs, dragons) after many many battles with the eles and gods, the great gods decided to tear his fortress apart and kill him.

Enter, Sauron. a few other lesser gods came to middle-earth (Gandalf, Radagast, Saruman and the two blue wizards of the east) and the rest is common knowledge.

 

[Mr Cwtchy]

All the gods created the world with music but melkor (one of the great gods) was an asshole and decided to be evil. he took a lesser god (sauron) and lot's of spirits and such (balrogs) and created evil stuff (orcs, dragons) after many many battles with the eles and gods, the great gods decided to tear his fortress apart and kill him.

Enter, Sauron. a few other lesser gods came to middle-earth (Gandalf, Radagast, Saruman and the two blue wizards of the east) and the rest is common knowledge.

Morgoth is still alive. He's trapped in the 'Void', and supposedly will come back, along with all his servants, for the Dagor Dagorath, or Battle of Battles.

Also, they destroyed more than his fortress. The entire continent it was on sank into the sea.

Final thing, the Blue Wizards were named Alatar and Pallando.

Sorry if I sound like a smartass, just thought I'd point it out.

OT: As has been mentioned a lot already, he was a minion, but as of The Lord of The Rings, he served himself.

 

[archaicmalevolence]

Cool thanks for the replys