Is the Human Race a failed experament

[Simriel]

I'm just gonna say... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Marv21]

I don't think anyone has the right to judge the WHOLE human race as a failed experiment until we kill ourselves off ...then we have failed, but for now we are a developing species!

But truly, 2012....its all guna end....judgement day....and fudgement day...thats the day were you get fudge...

 

[v3n0mat3]

Well damn it.

 

[Internet Kraken]

I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.

I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.

 

[alen456645]

I don't think the world will really end 2012. think about it if your an Aztec and your carving the calender In a stone wall do you wanna keep doing that, hell no you say the worlds gonna end later.

 

[oliveira8]

we're killing other animals just so we can live.

This one little bit confuses me.

Can you explain to me why this is a problem?

It's cause animals are really our Overlords and masters!!

We too stupid to notice that and we killing them! If we kill them all, who is going to take care of us?! WHO?! WHO?!

But then again...some make nice food...I'm hungry....

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

I think the thread title is a massive failure. Your post is also just a block of text with no formatting or flow, so I'm too irked to even comment about the actual subject of your post.

 

[TikiShades]

Do you know why you keep mentioning the year 2012? Do you seriously believe the modern major religions predicted it? No! They copied it. Aztecs and Mayans predicted that the world would end in 2012, long before the religions that destroyed their culture figured it out. And I think I heard somewhere that it would not be any preposterous "judgment day", but instead the magnetic poles were reversing. So, in answer to your question, yes. You have failed.
Seriously though, no. Superstitions are just ways so make ourselves seem important. People often forget their lives and all aspects of life around them are infinitesimal specks in the vast, constantly expanding universe of ours.
Oh, perhaps 2012 is when the universe will stop expanding and start compressing. Still no judgment day, but at least we're becoming bigger specks.

Yeah, but the Mayans also believed our world was created in 3425 BCE. And we all know that dinosaurs are only about five millenniums old, right?

 

[Lonan]

we're killing other animals just so we can live.

This one little bit confuses me.

Can you explain to me why this is a problem?

Killing above replacement.

All we've done has been pretty necessary to our own gain, maybe not collectively as a species but at least collectively within certain groups. Humanity is a whole lot of different people with different viewpoints in which way they want to better their own environment, so if these people's opinions clash then you are going to get some fuck-ups!

Of course, the OP's noting down of the most negative achievements of mankind gleefully neglects the things we have done to better our society and so obviously your going to paint a pretty grim picture. Besides, we are not causing global warming, we are just contributing to it.

Stem cell research is not designed to help people live longer, it is so people can replace defective cells that cause diseases like cancer and diabetes (I have diabetes so i feel particularly strongly about that one)

After reading your entire post, I get that this was a kind of rant about religion saying God made everything and so it should be more perfect but the fact that we've done so much good just as much takes away from your argument than the fact that we've done bad.
(I'm an Atheist by the way)

Natural cycles take WAY longer than the hundred years the world has started warming up in. Also, it'sreally very simple. Carbon dioxide SLIGHTLY increases the heat of the atmosphere which SLIGHTLY increases the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere which increases the worlds heat a bit. Consider that the sun is constantly shining on the earth, and a 40% increase in a greenhouse gas will cause a constant and accelerating warming effect. The amount of heat released sent back into space is first reduced by an increase in greenhouse gases. Then in moves onto the Arctic, where it reduces ice, (nature's best reflector, reflects 85% of heat back into space I think) with ocean water (nature's worst reflector, reflects 3% of heat, absorbes the rest)

Before I continue I would like to add that everything peaceful in nature is not calm, but the the colliding of collosal forces which cancel each other out, thus creating a balance. If one becomes more powerful then the other, life will gradually become more difficult for those on the one side. Think of it as a tug-of-war. Before humans started burning coal, the hot side (equater) and the cold side (poles) were equal. By releasing greenhouse gases you put more on the hot side, you add, say, one more person to the hot side, and both are, say teams of a hundred rugby players. Not a big deal. But the match doesn't end. Let's assume that both sides are simply holding and are leaning back onto the rope not exerting themselves. (because the hot and cold parts of the world don't get tired like humans do) The cold side now will barely notice the difference. However, unless the the carbon dioxide disappears, the world will increase it's temperature at a constant rate, aggravated by melting icecaps, release of more carbon sinks because of warming, release of more from ocean because warm water holds less carbon, and all sorts of fun stuff. I have to go now, I'll edit later and continue if you ask me too.

 

[Helm of Demonica]

I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.

I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.

Who's to say? Life is just one big joke. Why not have a spectacular punchline at the very end? And if the world does end as I hope it does, I'll be laughing my ass of while my bride-to-be and I cuddle during the final seconds.

 

[Internet Kraken]

I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.

I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.

Who's to say? Life is just one big joke. /quote]

You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.

 

[llewgriff]

Or we could just be a big TV show for the aliens.

I loved that episode.

EDIT: yes I may have done nothing but say I like south park so, uhhhhh is the experiment over? I like to think when the world ends everything dissolves and in big black letters the world level two hangs above us... wait what?

 

[ElephantGuts]

Have you ever heard the term "Wall of text"?

Anyway. First of all, the human race isn't an experiment. Second of all, we've done better than all other creatures in every way. Your complaints are that we kill other animals so we can live and that we kill eachother. Sound familiar? Animals do the same damn thing.

Atleast we managed to create all this technology and change our environment to suit our needs better. Yes we have abused that power and done bad things, but we've done plenty of good things too. If other animals had the intellectual capacity to make the advances we have, who says they would have used it any more appropriately than us?

 

[iain62a]

Oh shut up OP.

If it is an experiment, I'd say it's been a massive success.

We(humanity) have asserted our rightful dominance over the world. I'd call that a success.

Also: The world will not end in 2012.

Rightful?! Says who? Some old guys writing a book a couple of millennia ago? Bullshit. We might be the dominant, most evolved, only sentient species on this planet (at least as we see it...) but that doesn't make it ours by right - all forms of life here have an equal stake in it, which is why we have a responsibility not to fuck the place up.

No, you misunderstand me.

I have no affiliation with said old men.

Ok, rightful really wasn't the right word to use, what I meant is that we've earned our dominance, and while we definitely do have the responsibility for the well-being of the planet, we still are the best species there is, and have earned a right to excercise our dominance over the other species of the planet.

Also, experiments often don't have set goals, sometimes their goal is simply to see what happens.

 

[Helm of Demonica]

I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.

I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.

Who's to say? Life is just one big joke.

You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.

Just because my views on the world and the "marvel of human life" -snickers- is the opposite from yours, doesn't mean I'm sad or wrong. But I'm not right either. ºuº

My philosophy consists of personal experience and much meditation, and though it, at times, pains me to say it, there is no good or evil, right or wrong in this world outside of utter fact. There is only point of views, and only one that counts. Your own. And if you live by it, not letting it be influenced by anyone or any "book," per say, you will accept the truth. Your own truth. And live by it till the end of days.

 

[Leorex]

Oh shut up OP.

If it is an experiment, I'd say it's been a massive success.

We(humanity) have asserted our rightful dominance over the world. I'd call that a success.

Also: The world will not end in 2012.

this if life is an experiment then humans win. we have invented speach. we invented corn dogs.
we have controled the elements her self to watch tv. we won.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

we're killing other animals just so we can live.

This one little bit confuses me.

Can you explain to me why this is a problem?

Killing above replacement.

All we've done has been pretty necessary to our own gain, maybe not collectively as a species but at least collectively within certain groups. Humanity is a whole lot of different people with different viewpoints in which way they want to better their own environment, so if these people's opinions clash then you are going to get some fuck-ups!

Of course, the OP's noting down of the most negative achievements of mankind gleefully neglects the things we have done to better our society and so obviously your going to paint a pretty grim picture. Besides, we are not causing global warming, we are just contributing to it.

Stem cell research is not designed to help people live longer, it is so people can replace defective cells that cause diseases like cancer and diabetes (I have diabetes so i feel particularly strongly about that one)

After reading your entire post, I get that this was a kind of rant about religion saying God made everything and so it should be more perfect but the fact that we've done so much good just as much takes away from your argument than the fact that we've done bad.
(I'm an Atheist by the way)

Natural cycles take WAY longer than the hundred years the world has started warming up in. Also, it'sreally very simple. Carbon dioxide SLIGHTLY increases the heat of the atmosphere which SLIGHTLY increases the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere which increases the worlds heat a bit. Consider that the sun is constantly shining on the earth, and a 40% increase in a greenhouse gas will cause a constant and accelerating warming effect. The amount of heat released sent back into space is first reduced by an increase in greenhouse gases. Then in moves onto the Arctic, where it reduces ice, (nature's best reflector, reflects 85% of heat back into space I think) with ocean water (nature's worst reflector, reflects 3% of heat, absorbes the rest)

Before I continue I would like to add that everything peaceful in nature is not calm, but the the colliding of collosal forces which cancel each other out, thus creating a balance. If one becomes more powerful then the other, life will gradually become more difficult for those on the one side. Think of it as a tug-of-war. Before humans started burning coal, the hot side (equater) and the cold side (poles) were equal. By releasing greenhouse gases you put more on the hot side, you add, say, one more person to the hot side, and both are, say teams of a hundred rugby players. Not a big deal. But the match doesn't end. Let's assume that both sides are simply holding and are leaning back onto the rope not exerting themselves. (because the hot and cold parts of the world don't get tired like humans do) The cold side now will barely notice the difference. However, unless the the carbon dioxide disappears, the world will increase it's temperature at a constant rate, aggravated by melting icecaps, release of more carbon sinks because of warming, release of more from ocean because warm water holds less carbon, and all sorts of fun stuff. I have to go now, I'll edit later and continue if you ask me too.

Sorry, i made one small point about Global Warming, and it was true, I'll admit that we are contributing very strongly towards it but it is a natural process.

 

[Leorex]

we're killing other animals just so we can live.

This one little bit confuses me.

Can you explain to me why this is a problem?

Killing above replacement.

All we've done has been pretty necessary to our own gain, maybe not collectively as a species but at least collectively within certain groups. Humanity is a whole lot of different people with different viewpoints in which way they want to better their own environment, so if these people's opinions clash then you are going to get some fuck-ups!

Of course, the OP's noting down of the most negative achievements of mankind gleefully neglects the things we have done to better our society and so obviously your going to paint a pretty grim picture. Besides, we are not causing global warming, we are just contributing to it.

Stem cell research is not designed to help people live longer, it is so people can replace defective cells that cause diseases like cancer and diabetes (I have diabetes so i feel particularly strongly about that one)

After reading your entire post, I get that this was a kind of rant about religion saying God made everything and so it should be more perfect but the fact that we've done so much good just as much takes away from your argument than the fact that we've done bad.
(I'm an Atheist by the way)

Natural cycles take WAY longer than the hundred years the world has started warming up in. Also, it'sreally very simple. Carbon dioxide SLIGHTLY increases the heat of the atmosphere which SLIGHTLY increases the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere which increases the worlds heat a bit. Consider that the sun is constantly shining on the earth, and a 40% increase in a greenhouse gas will cause a constant and accelerating warming effect. The amount of heat released sent back into space is first reduced by an increase in greenhouse gases. Then in moves onto the Arctic, where it reduces ice, (nature's best reflector, reflects 85% of heat back into space I think) with ocean water (nature's worst reflector, reflects 3% of heat, absorbes the rest)

Before I continue I would like to add that everything peaceful in nature is not calm, but the the colliding of collosal forces which cancel each other out, thus creating a balance. If one becomes more powerful then the other, life will gradually become more difficult for those on the one side. Think of it as a tug-of-war. Before humans started burning coal, the hot side (equater) and the cold side (poles) were equal. By releasing greenhouse gases you put more on the hot side, you add, say, one more person to the hot side, and both are, say teams of a hundred rugby players. Not a big deal. But the match doesn't end. Let's assume that both sides are simply holding and are leaning back onto the rope not exerting themselves. (because the hot and cold parts of the world don't get tired like humans do) The cold side now will barely notice the difference. However, unless the the carbon dioxide disappears, the world will increase it's temperature at a constant rate, aggravated by melting icecaps, release of more carbon sinks because of warming, release of more from ocean because warm water holds less carbon, and all sorts of fun stuff. I have to go now, I'll edit later and continue if you ask me too.

the north and south poles where not equal. ever hear of the ice age.

 

[Internet Kraken]

I would, of course, be the guy with a lawn chair outside, on the front yard, with some sun glasses on, enjoying every last second of the end.

I hate this attitude. You're full of shit and you know it.

Who's to say? Life is just one big joke.

You truly are a sad person if you have such a narrow view on the marvel of human life.

Just because my views on the world and the "marvel of human life" -snickers- is the opposite from yours, doesn't mean I'm sad or wrong. But I'm not right either. ºuº

If you can not see why humans are incredible then you are indeed foolish.

We have crossed the boundaries of our species. Our knowledge allows us to fly like the birds, swim life the fish, and penetrate the dark void of space. If you find nothing amazing about the potential for greatness in the human mind, then you are nothing more than a pessimistic fool.

 

[Nanissimov]

report and move on