Is the Human Race a failed experament

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Ginnipe

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EMFCRACKSHOT said:
if we are an experiment, i would say we have been a great success. Pretty soon we will start colonising space and take the war to the aliens with massive fleets of ships instead of the little one on one hit and run engagements we are having now. (you do all know we are at war with aliens right? The USAF started it by blowing up an alien spaceship for no apprent reason other than the fact it was going to blow up the earth a little bit. Hardly seems fair if you ask me.). God i hate those aliens, we should declare exterminatus on them. What an experiment we are, a bunch of genocidal maniacs, who can call that a failure. Nice work other aliens (not god) we salute you but now we must kill you and eat you because you are not human.
And 2012? the olympics are going to cause the end of the world? is that what it means because thats the only thing of any significance i can think of in 2012 and even thats not really important. We all know the earth will end in 2746 when we make the earth implode so we can get to the marshmellow centre and find the leprauchauns who inhabit it and steal their gold and socks, we must stal their socks. With them we can take over the universe
your ending sentence made me chuckle
 

StarStruckStrumpets

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Stop feeding the 2012 bullshit and look it up
2012 is a huge misconception. There are many reasons why the end of the world is linked to this date, and it isn't just about the Mayan Calendar(?). Many catastrophic events in history have occured on the date of 21st December, it is also linked to the Illuminati and the Freemasons.

The 2012 prophecy was a prophecy predicting the end of one world, and the start of another. In other words:

"The coming of a new age. A new beginning."

Assassin's Creed was all about this prophecy, though only one person that I know has properly figured it out.
 

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We don't fight over 'paper,' as you so bluntly put it. We fight over the value they represent. Sort of like how bullets don't kill people, but the holes they leave when they tear through you at high speeds do.
 

Lonan

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Ginnipe said:
we're killing other animals just so we can live.
This one little bit confuses me.

Can you explain to me why this is a problem?
Killing above replacement.
ShredHead said:
All we've done has been pretty necessary to our own gain, maybe not collectively as a species but at least collectively within certain groups. Humanity is a whole lot of different people with different viewpoints in which way they want to better their own environment, so if these people's opinions clash then you are going to get some fuck-ups!

Of course, the OP's noting down of the most negative achievements of mankind gleefully neglects the things we have done to better our society and so obviously your going to paint a pretty grim picture. Besides, we are not causing global warming, we are just contributing to it.

Stem cell research is not designed to help people live longer, it is so people can replace defective cells that cause diseases like cancer and diabetes (I have diabetes so i feel particularly strongly about that one)

After reading your entire post, I get that this was a kind of rant about religion saying God made everything and so it should be more perfect but the fact that we've done so much good just as much takes away from your argument than the fact that we've done bad.
(I'm an Atheist by the way)
Natural cycles take WAY longer than the hundred years the world has started warming up in. Also, it'sreally very simple. Carbon dioxide SLIGHTLY increases the heat of the atmosphere which SLIGHTLY increases the amount of water vapour in the atmosphere which increases the worlds heat a bit. Consider that the sun is constantly shining on the earth, and a 40% increase in a greenhouse gas will cause a constant and accelerating warming effect. The amount of heat released sent back into space is first reduced by an increase in greenhouse gases. Then in moves onto the Arctic, where it reduces ice, (nature's best reflector, reflects 85% of heat back into space I think) with ocean water (nature's worst reflector, reflects 3% of heat, absorbes the rest)

Before I continue I would like to add that everything peaceful in nature is not calm, but the the colliding of collosal forces which cancel each other out, thus creating a balance. If one becomes more powerful then the other, life will gradually become more difficult for those on the one side. Think of it as a tug-of-war. Before humans started burning coal, the hot side (equater) and the cold side (poles) were equal. By releasing greenhouse gases you put more on the hot side, you add, say, one more person to the hot side, and both are, say teams of a hundred rugby players. Not a big deal. But the match doesn't end. Let's assume that both sides are simply holding and are leaning back onto the rope not exerting themselves. (because the hot and cold parts of the world don't get tired like humans do) The cold side now will barely notice the difference. However, unless the the carbon dioxide disappears, the world will increase it's temperature at a constant rate, aggravated by melting icecaps, release of more carbon sinks because of warming, release of more from ocean because warm water holds less carbon, and all sorts of fun stuff. I have to go now, I'll edit later and continue if you ask me too.

Sorry, i made one small point about Global Warming, and it was true, I'll admit that we are contributing very strongly towards it but it is a natural process.
There's nothing natural about increased greenhouse gases, unless you consider humans to just be clueless animals and thus "natural." You can say all you want about 42 000 year long cycles or whatever, but you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. You're trying to direct the attention of someone who has a crocidile behind them to a small wasp so that you don't have to help them, and can get away while they get eaten.

Sorry for the really aggresive assault on your character, but this just about that serious. They're saying the Artic could have an ice free summer as quickly as 2013. Think about how much warmer the cold currents traveling south will be when the best reflector of heat is replaced with the best absorber of heat.

Also, natural cycles are entirely irrlevant. They're going to happen anyway, so you might as well pretend they aren't their. Also, carbon dioxide is responsible for 99.99% of the warming. In addition, we would be in an ice age right now if it weren't for for Chinese terrace farmers growing rice, starting 10 000 years ago, so we've already stopped one natural cycle from taking place, so first of all I don't want to hear any more crap about natural cycles when we've already stopped a HUGE one, and second of all, "natural" cycles need to be taken with a grain of salt in a world that should be in an ice age. We've messed with most of the cycles on earth by preventing that ice age, so natural cycles since 10 000 years ago need to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. Also, we are naturally supposed to be in 30 year cooling cycle right now, the world is still warming up. That's a short term cycle that actually has relevance to the lives of those alive now, and the implications of a natural cooling cycle being offset by unnatural warming is staggering indeed. I don't care about long term cycles that take thousands of years, I really don't. I have a good website for, if you wouldn't mind viewing it and scrolling down some, the guy makes some good videos. www.bravenewclimate.com


Ok, you win on climate change.
But the rest of what I originally said is accurate.
Also oh God why do you care that much?
Because people will run out of water, causing food supplies to run short, causing nuclear wars if emissions aren't brought WAY the hell down right now. Here's a link to Climate Wars:
http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/features/climate-wars/index.html
This isn't just a "problem." It's the obliteration of humanity. It won't stop until we stop.

And you expect me, a 14 year old kid to do what?
And don't fucking go, oh anyone who doesn't actively try and save the environment is a villain, and you're making huge presumptions about nuclear wars and sounding like a complete idiot.
You didn't even look at the link I sent, did you? There's a very simpel senario with India And Pakistan. Most of Pakistan's rivers flow first through India. The water levels could go down by half in just 40 years. India will have 100 million people without enough water already, and Pakistan will get screwed over. Both have nuclear weapons. This is not fiction, this is not fantasy. This is the epic proportions of disaster of Hollywood happening in slow motion. As for sounding like a complete idiot, I was not making presumptions. I got this information from the link I sent you. I would appreciate if you would at least listen to it for a few minutes. Or, you could ask me to find the part where it talks about nuclear war. If you watch 15 minutes you'll learn a lot.
 

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*Removes pipe from mouth*

Great Scott, I'd say Helm of Demonica must be one of the finest trolls I've seen in a while. Magnificent specimin....well-developed bile glands, a good thick coating of nihilism, clearly in full musk - you can smell the contempt exuding from his hide.

Oh well, time for some trollslaying.

Over the horizon strides Lord Fondant, elephant gun in hand, pipe in the other. Atop a hillock, he has a clear view of the troll. While a far lesser creature than the mighty GEMS, it is still an impressive creature, a lumpen, hideous thing astrident upon the face of The Escapist, it's acrid reek bitter on the tongue even as it lumbers about, destroying all in it's path.

"Well" he declares, upon looking through his field glasses "it looks damn like the old gang's not here yet. Jenkins! Contact the slayers league, and tell them we have a good-sized buck troll in section 0-0-Alpha, http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.115730?page=3 ."

With his duties fulfilled, Lord Fondant sets down his field glasses and takes up his elephant rifle, aims, the troll's carbuncled forequarters clear in his sight, and fires.
 

Hey Joe

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mayb we were put here as an alien time bomb of sorts, b4 the other races (apes and so on.) would come to a sentient way of life, we would destroy this planet, i dunno, but the human race will live on, we're creative little bastards and we're pretty resilient too, maybe the aliens want us to find them so they can say, WE ARE YOUR PARENTS HUMANS! and we can be all like, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE! and then someone says WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?! and the planet explodes. also known as star wars and the wtf bomb having a bastard child. anyway, my very fuzzy point is, if the end of the word is coming, let it come. we'll still live to see someone finally finish DNF, even after that. and it will be FUCKING AWESOME!
No, only certain members of the human race are failed experiments.
 

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"three zero question mark pee ay gee ee equals three", droned Fondant. And thus ended the message.
Saskwach had changed a lot since his last encounter with trolls. He had wandered and sought out knowledge and learned, and had finally realised he would always do thus. He had traversed Shadow once his eyes had been unblinkered by the Pattern at the heart of the one true world, of which all others are mere aspects. He had fought sages and learned at the feet of dragons. He had supped with hermits and pulled kings from the mud. Faced with the grandeur of his self-set task, trollslaying seemed frivolous and whimsical. And yet the old memories ran deep.
"Saskwach on the way."
He fingered the blade at his hilt, shining silver sheathed over. He drew it in preparation, and came to the spot.
Next to him stood Lord Fondant, reloading his elephant gun. Saskwach nodded, the only sign needed between two veterans parted on their own ways but united again. Before them stood a troll, somewhat disappointing in stature after the great battles of yore. Still, it should not be trifled with.
Saskwach mentally searched the troll, seeking the Pattern inside of it, to glean greater knowledge. Its nihilism was clear, oozing off its pores - but other truths remained.
An anthesis to books, resting on self-certainty, like a great weight on a rickety chair...a constant yearning for wit, though not the capacity...a fell whimsy, not the thing to temper the minds of wise men, but that which wracks the faculties of the young and foolish...young...yes, there seemed to be something...this was a young troll, a cynicism fresh-grown around its coat to withstand the slings and arrows of outrageous notions - but too late, always too late, to shield them from their founding principles, which they suck from the mother's teat...He would have to be put down.
Saskwach rose his blade into a guard, and charged, screaming ancient warcries not heard since the death of a noble Shadow eons ago. He cut a great rent across its belly, sidestepping the nonsense and ennui which sputtered forth. But as he turned to the foe, its wound knitted together until it was whole again.
"This will be harder than I thought."
He lay in again.
 

Fire Daemon

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I was banned for Trollslaying once and I have a strong belief that others may suffer a similar fate. I'm not going to tell you guys not to have your fun but...

...well...

Look after yourselves. I was only banned for a day but the mods most certainly do not like back seat moderating. I'll admit that Trollslaying is fun, very fun, and it has been a long time since a troll got their just desserts but I don't think picking a fight in answer here.

Fire Daemon turned his back and started to walk away from the fight. His time had passed; this was no longer his fight.

He shed a tear, a single tear, for all that had been lost and disappeared into the shadow of a setting sun.
 

CuddlyCombine

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Eatbrainz said:
the human race isnt a mistake, its just god playing Spore.
Spore has proper spelling and grammar, at least. God must be playing the beta.

Anyway, I can't dignify your post with a response. Nothing personal, OP, I just can't decipher it at this time of night. Tomorrow, I'll snort a few lines and try to think through what you've said here. From what I can get of the title, no, the human race is not a failure, nor are we an experiment. Besides, you can't fail if you have nothing to compare yourself to.
 

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Fondant watched, idly reloading his elephant gun as noble Saskwatch charged the warty behemoth, his warcries pitched to such terrible perfection that the very ether above seemed to crack, and shatter like so much grey-tinted glass. Silver-steel flashing, the blade flickered and carved what must have been a greivous wound across the troll, spilling forth the vile stink of nonsensical bile. But still, the wound re-knitted across, and Saskwatch did recommence his attack.

"Bedevilment, looks like it's developed regeneration already. Jenkins! The Avenger round, if you please." Jenkins handed him the bullet, the dull sheen of gun metal so wonderfully lethal even through the wax coating that covered it.

Fondant reloaded, sliding the Avenger into place, and sighting the troll once more. Saskwatch made another attack, and he pulled the trigger.

The gun spat fire, the wax vaporuising in the barrel and the phosphorous coating beneath erupting into a spectacular trail of fire as it streaked across the landscape, carving a gaping hole in the troll's shoulder.

"That should slow it down..."
 

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OP: how can you talk about stem cells only being negative, they can change peoples lives, my father has had extreme back pains for years, and with more and more advancements in stem cells they may soon be able to sort it out, theres no way thats a negative thing