Its a shame because I believe 2 n' 4 are the worst in the series. MGS3 was my favourite, overall great experience and immersion. While MGS1 had a great story, until Snake became all anti war and turned into Mr. hypocrite, it still had great gameplay for its time. MGS4 was a dissapointment in all departments, the online lacked heavily for me, due to lag, because I live in New Zealand.
Is the Metal Gear Solid series overrated?
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Not for me. Every entry in the series is a quality one, and each sequel is distinguishable from its predecessor, and not a carbon copy like sequels in most popular franchises tend to be.
Think about this MGS isn't a generic stealth it was the first stealth game.
Also if you wan't to get into the game don't start with 4 its a fans game.Try 3 and
if your into more action-y stuff don't expect much.
Also if you wan't to get into the game don't start with 4 its a fans game.Try 3 and
if your into more action-y stuff don't expect much.
Ok you know what, do you have any idea why it's called tactical *espionage* action?EzraPound said:
IT'S A GODDAMN SNEAKING GAME! you don't kill soldier your tranq them in the face and SNEAK your way around for god sake. How can you know know this? IT isn't suppose to be centred around bloody action ,you're suppose to use your eyes and ears to hide and crawl to safety, Like in MGS 1 on the box it says "If he enemy sees you they will call reinforcements, sneaking is your best option" somewhere along those lines. And it isn't packed with cutscenes, you should be enjoying the detail it shows, not to mention the gameplay is far from the worst and the story is GOOD!Stop complaining and just enjoy a good game.
Agree with all of those points (MGS4 most overrated, MGS1 most memorable dialogue, etc.), but I wouldn't exactly say anyone who liked 4 isn't a "true fan." A lot of people liked that game for whatever reason, it's probably best to just leave it at that.warm slurm said:
Though again, I too felt it spiraled completely out of control with the dialogue/story/characters/etc. The gameplay? Sure, that was the best in the series. But the setpieces were so contrived and wonky. It just doesn't stack up to the previous games - one thing in particular bothered me: Liquid Snake, Revolver Ocelot, The Boss, etc. are among the best antagonists in gaming, period. Liquid Ocelot, however? One of the dumbest. But that's just my opinion.
Anyway, on topic, is MGS overrated as a whole? Maybe a little. But only because of MGS4.
They're not overrated for the people that like it!
I've loved every hour that I've poured into those stories (especially MGS3...the plot, the sneaking/stabbing, the characters, the MUSIC!...every once in awhile I still think of the ending.....what a hero... )
The MGS games, and that one in particular, just really strike me and draw me in, so I would think they're worthy of whatever praise they're given. At the same time though, they're not for everybody. I have a lot of friends that I would never ever recommend the game to. It's not that they have poor taste, or I'm selfishly keeping the secret to myself, it's just not a series that everyone will love. So...I guess my experience with it would be 10/10, but depending on the person I'm talking to, I wouldn't always recommend it as a 5 star game.
I've loved every hour that I've poured into those stories (especially MGS3...the plot, the sneaking/stabbing, the characters, the MUSIC!...every once in awhile I still think of the ending.....what a hero... )
The MGS games, and that one in particular, just really strike me and draw me in, so I would think they're worthy of whatever praise they're given. At the same time though, they're not for everybody. I have a lot of friends that I would never ever recommend the game to. It's not that they have poor taste, or I'm selfishly keeping the secret to myself, it's just not a series that everyone will love. So...I guess my experience with it would be 10/10, but depending on the person I'm talking to, I wouldn't always recommend it as a 5 star game.
I like it so I don't really care if its overrated, I like the stealth sections and certain parts of the story (Cutscenes less than 5 minutes).
EDIT: Metal Gear Solid 3 is still the best of the series.
EDIT 2: Oh and Peace Walker is awesome, Would be more awesome if not on the damn PSP.
EDIT: Metal Gear Solid 3 is still the best of the series.
EDIT 2: Oh and Peace Walker is awesome, Would be more awesome if not on the damn PSP.
Yes, theres alot of cutscenes. But it also sounds like you suck at stealth games, to be honest.
Its not my fault im an MGS fan. I would rather Silent Hill or Bionic Commando come out with consistently good games, but they decide not to do that for some reason. So i go where the good games are. Metal Gear Solid.
Protip: Use the tranquilizer darts or the knife, and dont get caught. Its a bad thing in stealth games.
Its not my fault im an MGS fan. I would rather Silent Hill or Bionic Commando come out with consistently good games, but they decide not to do that for some reason. So i go where the good games are. Metal Gear Solid.
Protip: Use the tranquilizer darts or the knife, and dont get caught. Its a bad thing in stealth games.
MGS as a series? no.
MGS4 is fun fanservice that ties up the series nicely, but compared to MGS2 or 3 is pales in comparison. To many cutscenes combined with the asinine way they choose to install the damn thing. I'd replay it more often if I could just jump to the parts I liked, also it feels a lot of the stealth is gone. MGS4 for better or worse, plays like an action game or a game where your crawling on your stomach for hours.
I think the series peaked at MGS3 tbh
MGS4 is fun fanservice that ties up the series nicely, but compared to MGS2 or 3 is pales in comparison. To many cutscenes combined with the asinine way they choose to install the damn thing. I'd replay it more often if I could just jump to the parts I liked, also it feels a lot of the stealth is gone. MGS4 for better or worse, plays like an action game or a game where your crawling on your stomach for hours.
I think the series peaked at MGS3 tbh
I'm starting to think it is. I've been giving my best shot at MGS3 Subsistence, which some people say is the best in the series. The controls are clunky, CQC barely works, every time I talk to the medic to find out about an animal I've killed, or plant I've harvested, I get some long dialogue about a horror flick.
It also has a bizarre mix of realism and fantasy, which I find disconcerting. Aiming with the pistol seems realistic enough, but the inability to sidestep is completely disconcerting. Having to adjust camo according to the environment makes sense, but it's just an exercise in going into the menu, turning it into a chore since the game could just do it automatically or just default to a single type of camo (which would also be more realistic). And for some reason, eating a reticulated python heals you.
Having my stealth game introduction being Thief, I'm thoroughly underwhelmed. MGS is supposed to be the shit, but I'm getting a strong impression there's just a lot of nostalgia from people who played it in the PlayStation era, and people who say it's a love it or hate it game probably mean you either have the nostalgia or you don't.
The interesting thing is MGS for N-Gage played much better, so I'm curious to see if MGS3 was just a bit too ambitious. I'll be giving The Twin Snakes a shot, since I already bought it. If not, it has great trade in value at EB.
It also has a bizarre mix of realism and fantasy, which I find disconcerting. Aiming with the pistol seems realistic enough, but the inability to sidestep is completely disconcerting. Having to adjust camo according to the environment makes sense, but it's just an exercise in going into the menu, turning it into a chore since the game could just do it automatically or just default to a single type of camo (which would also be more realistic). And for some reason, eating a reticulated python heals you.
Having my stealth game introduction being Thief, I'm thoroughly underwhelmed. MGS is supposed to be the shit, but I'm getting a strong impression there's just a lot of nostalgia from people who played it in the PlayStation era, and people who say it's a love it or hate it game probably mean you either have the nostalgia or you don't.
The interesting thing is MGS for N-Gage played much better, so I'm curious to see if MGS3 was just a bit too ambitious. I'll be giving The Twin Snakes a shot, since I already bought it. If not, it has great trade in value at EB.
These overhyped threads are very much pointless for 2 reasons: 1 it comes down to personal preference whether a game is liked or disliked, and 2 this can be done with ANY popular game series.
Example---------------
Mario is so overrated because every game that has come out is the same thing, save the princess while stomping on peoples heads. And let's touch on that, why is it always stomping peoples heads? The gameplay is JUST TOO simplistic, how do people not get bored playing the same thing over and over.
Sometimes the enemy has spikes on it so you have to jump on ANOTHER enemy and then throw it at the spiked foe, ingenious. It's repetitive, the cutscenes are lacking and the characters are so 2 dimensional.
End Example-----------
See anyone can talk poorly about a game series and just note what things COULD be taken as bad.
Is MGS overrated? No because that's peoples personal opinions on a game and if they enjoyed it you'd be in the wrong to say they were incorrect.
I feel it's a fun series with way too many cutscenes and too much repeating of the same dialogue we got in the first cutscene. They have always been a stunning graphical masterpiece on every console they've been on when they were released, did fun cool things and impressed.
Do I like the series? Yes but I hate playing them.
Example---------------
Mario is so overrated because every game that has come out is the same thing, save the princess while stomping on peoples heads. And let's touch on that, why is it always stomping peoples heads? The gameplay is JUST TOO simplistic, how do people not get bored playing the same thing over and over.
Sometimes the enemy has spikes on it so you have to jump on ANOTHER enemy and then throw it at the spiked foe, ingenious. It's repetitive, the cutscenes are lacking and the characters are so 2 dimensional.
End Example-----------
See anyone can talk poorly about a game series and just note what things COULD be taken as bad.
Is MGS overrated? No because that's peoples personal opinions on a game and if they enjoyed it you'd be in the wrong to say they were incorrect.
I feel it's a fun series with way too many cutscenes and too much repeating of the same dialogue we got in the first cutscene. They have always been a stunning graphical masterpiece on every console they've been on when they were released, did fun cool things and impressed.
Do I like the series? Yes but I hate playing them.
The thing with MGS4 is that it is pretentious. It tries to be a thought-provoking treatise on the violence of war, AND a blockbuster Hollywood film. The problems with this are twofold:
1. It's a game, not a film.
2. The script is rubbish.
Also, the gameplay has not moved on significantly since the PS2 days.
1. It's a game, not a film.
2. The script is rubbish.
Also, the gameplay has not moved on significantly since the PS2 days.