Is the Wii really gaming?
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Is the Wii gaming? I would say it more or less depends on the game and the player. A person who plays WiiFit just to try and get fit, no, that's not gaming. That's trying to get fit in your own home, an exercise tape with more personalization and interactivity.
A person who plays WiiFit to try and "get the best score." (I honestly don't know how it works, but a one-upmanship wouldn't be that hard to do with anything) Well...a bit harder, so I'd say yes and no. It's not in the sense of that WiiFit isn't meant to be a game anymore than a plush dog is meant to be a sub for a real one. But then, yes, it is, because the person playing has turned it into a game between himself and whoever else is playing.
A person who plays something like No More Heroes? Yes, and yes. That is a game and if they are playing it, they are playing it to game. No question.
So...the short of my long post is my second sentence: It more or less depends on the player and the game. In my opinion, of course.
A person who plays WiiFit to try and "get the best score." (I honestly don't know how it works, but a one-upmanship wouldn't be that hard to do with anything) Well...a bit harder, so I'd say yes and no. It's not in the sense of that WiiFit isn't meant to be a game anymore than a plush dog is meant to be a sub for a real one. But then, yes, it is, because the person playing has turned it into a game between himself and whoever else is playing.
A person who plays something like No More Heroes? Yes, and yes. That is a game and if they are playing it, they are playing it to game. No question.
So...the short of my long post is my second sentence: It more or less depends on the player and the game. In my opinion, of course.
I'd have to agree with pretty much everyone else on this, that it is totally gaming. I don't think any one object in the marketplace could be considered "the future of gaming," but they've set a lot of trends as thatDaftDude1 pointed out.
To be honest I'm all for interfacing my brain to a computer, that's actually what I'm going to school for. But I don't think the market success of button controllers will spur that development for the industry. I know Yahtzee said it, but that doesn't mean it is orated by God. Less motion requiring current control schemes don't necessarily encourage the no-motion required brain-controlled control schemes, I bet it encourages little in the way of development at all as it provides a solid status quo. I think what will lead to those types of controls is a success on GOOD motion control, but with evidence that consumers want a deeper level of interaction. So all told, I think the Wii was a good step in the right direction, but unless they want to start being more aggressive with their technology rather than going in safer/low-cost routes they'll never bear the fruit of their technological innovation, it'll simply inspire other companies.
To be honest I'm all for interfacing my brain to a computer, that's actually what I'm going to school for. But I don't think the market success of button controllers will spur that development for the industry. I know Yahtzee said it, but that doesn't mean it is orated by God. Less motion requiring current control schemes don't necessarily encourage the no-motion required brain-controlled control schemes, I bet it encourages little in the way of development at all as it provides a solid status quo. I think what will lead to those types of controls is a success on GOOD motion control, but with evidence that consumers want a deeper level of interaction. So all told, I think the Wii was a good step in the right direction, but unless they want to start being more aggressive with their technology rather than going in safer/low-cost routes they'll never bear the fruit of their technological innovation, it'll simply inspire other companies.
The Wii has some incredible games. Just because they aren't as technologically advanced as other games doesn't detract from them.
Mario Kart
Super Mario Bros Wii
Super Mario Galaxy
Skyward Sword (not out, but we all know it will be awesome)
Nintendo simply favors a different model than the others.
Nintendo: Simple technology to keep price low, and focus on family friendly games.
PlayStation: "It Only Does Everything". Handles new technology (3D gaming) with a firmware update, and uses lots of features (essentially replacing a large portion of the home entertainment system) to justify price point.
XBox: "We have Halo, lol" (Poking fun at XBox. Seriously though, they focus on a strong, but not comprehensive feature list to keep price in the middle, and focuses on hardcore game development.)
Each console has a niche, and each excels at that niche. (Hence why Nintendo is looking at Apple as competition, not Sony).
Nintendo isn't going away. And it's not going to stop innovating. And it's not going to stop being gaming. Just because it doesn't cater to the "hardcore" crowd doesn't invalidate it as a platform.
Mario Kart
Super Mario Bros Wii
Super Mario Galaxy
Skyward Sword (not out, but we all know it will be awesome)
Nintendo simply favors a different model than the others.
Nintendo: Simple technology to keep price low, and focus on family friendly games.
PlayStation: "It Only Does Everything". Handles new technology (3D gaming) with a firmware update, and uses lots of features (essentially replacing a large portion of the home entertainment system) to justify price point.
XBox: "We have Halo, lol" (Poking fun at XBox. Seriously though, they focus on a strong, but not comprehensive feature list to keep price in the middle, and focuses on hardcore game development.)
Each console has a niche, and each excels at that niche. (Hence why Nintendo is looking at Apple as competition, not Sony).
Nintendo isn't going away. And it's not going to stop innovating. And it's not going to stop being gaming. Just because it doesn't cater to the "hardcore" crowd doesn't invalidate it as a platform.
I thought the use of motion control in Mario was nice. However, I am not really a fan of motion control games. Overall I'd much rather non-motion control when I game. It struck me as really odd that MS and Sony came out with motion control, but the Kinect will catch on, while sony figures out how to play catch up. Sony is falling behind fast. I think Nintendo will be content to keep it's current demographic, but MS has never once in it's entire history been able to leave well enough alone. They don't want to be a niche, they want to MAKE the niche by engulfing everything else - and then the niche too.
Future of gaming? Dunno about that, but MS, Nintendo and the PC are here to stay. We'll see what Sony comes up with next - perhaps they should re-enable Linux to regain their foothold.
Future of gaming? Dunno about that, but MS, Nintendo and the PC are here to stay. We'll see what Sony comes up with next - perhaps they should re-enable Linux to regain their foothold.
I don't know how much of a foothold that is ... (apart from not pissing off the hackers)Skratt said:
I mean, people who bought 20 PS3s in order to build a supercomputer cluster ... didn't buy games.
At the time PS3s were sold at a loss, so ... that was hardly an ideal scenario.
Groundbreaking! But seriously, that's all it takes to constitute gaming. Threads kind of over now. ;pAbengoshis said:
