Good and bad are definitely subjective. That being said, Lou Reed needs to hunt down and destroy every member of Blue October to restore order in the universe.
Is there no Such Thing as Bad Music?
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Actually, many of the classic disney movies had excellent songs in them. Its when they try to create their own G rated, kid friendly pop stars and have the audacity to call them artists is where it turns into a bullshit storm of epic proportions. Mostly it pisses me off that this is how many kids are now first getting into music. As soon as I was old enough (8 or 9 I think) I was given access to most of my Dad's extensive CD collection, mostly (at the time) copious amounts of Beatles stuff is what appealed.Jenkins said:
Of course there is such a thing as bad music. Which is not to say that there isn't someone who will like it.
Yes there is.
This went to 14 in the UK charts, but really is empirically bad music:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m9n5Uv0bp0
This went to 14 in the UK charts, but really is empirically bad music:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m9n5Uv0bp0
If someone doesn't like a band, fair enough... If someone thinks that because they don't like that band that it is indisputably shit... That's elitism. I'll give you an example, something that happened in Age of Conan last year when I was playing it (gave up on it). My character was called Metallicaman, because I didn't want some dick RP'er name like Galdorin or the like >.< and because I'm a huge Metallica fan. I killed this guy, and he said "metallica are shit". I kept my cool as I do usually in most encounters with dickheads over the internet, and said, "fair enough... their new stuff is questionable but there old stuff is really good"
"no they're just shit"
"why, because you don't like them?"
"they fucking suck"
"no, you just don't like them, your opinion isn't god you know"
"metallica are shit you just won't admit it"
...It went on like this for a while, then he said something like all the bands I listen to are shit... So I used led zeppelin and pink floyd as examples of near-flawless bands and said that even if you don't like them, you should still be able to acknowledge their greatness... (He said that led zeppelin are terrible and that he hadn't heard a pink floyd song ever...) It's like me and AC/DC... I like a few of their songs, and I think they're a good band, but I'm just not into them. He said something like "how the fuck do you not like AC/DC ur fucking dumb". After a while of arguing he linked me a youtube video to a music video of a generic emo/hardcore band who's name I can't recall. I like a few of these kinds of bands, but most of them I can't stand because they're just so vanilla. But yeah, enough of my ranting...
It's all about opinion.
BrokenCYDE will never be good though.
"no they're just shit"
"why, because you don't like them?"
"they fucking suck"
"no, you just don't like them, your opinion isn't god you know"
"metallica are shit you just won't admit it"
...It went on like this for a while, then he said something like all the bands I listen to are shit... So I used led zeppelin and pink floyd as examples of near-flawless bands and said that even if you don't like them, you should still be able to acknowledge their greatness... (He said that led zeppelin are terrible and that he hadn't heard a pink floyd song ever...) It's like me and AC/DC... I like a few of their songs, and I think they're a good band, but I'm just not into them. He said something like "how the fuck do you not like AC/DC ur fucking dumb". After a while of arguing he linked me a youtube video to a music video of a generic emo/hardcore band who's name I can't recall. I like a few of these kinds of bands, but most of them I can't stand because they're just so vanilla. But yeah, enough of my ranting...
It's all about opinion.
BrokenCYDE will never be good though.
But you'll be told that 'ong it roxks u r just jealuos of their money they're so cute you dont no anything!' rendering your argument invalid.mojopin87 said:On second thought, we just need to be more clever with our adjectives. Saying the Jonas Brothers music is totally vacuous and devoid of original thought or genuine emotion is much more fun than just saying it sucks.
That will never happen. There will always be one idiot who likes something.ottenni said:
There is no such thing as bad music, as good or bad just depends of personal taste.
However, there is such a thing as generic, market-friendly, mass-manufactured, made by numbers, void of any soul, emotion or originality, valueless music. I guess that can be consider bad music if that is not your thing.
However, there is such a thing as generic, market-friendly, mass-manufactured, made by numbers, void of any soul, emotion or originality, valueless music. I guess that can be consider bad music if that is not your thing.
I don't believe there is bad music. Only bad artist.
Ever heard the song "Louie Louie" by The Kingsmen. They play the notes all wrong, the notes are off key, and the singing is terrible, but many consider it one of the best songs ever made. Why? Because it is a fun song.
Even if I hate the artist, I always manage to find at least one song that I like that they did. Sometimes, it is a whole album I like despite me hating the artist.
It is all in a matter of how the song is presented to you. I hate Rap, but I know a few rap songs that I like because they are not about sex or hoes or drugs, but about something funny. Like Chains-hang low.
Ever heard the song "Louie Louie" by The Kingsmen. They play the notes all wrong, the notes are off key, and the singing is terrible, but many consider it one of the best songs ever made. Why? Because it is a fun song.
Even if I hate the artist, I always manage to find at least one song that I like that they did. Sometimes, it is a whole album I like despite me hating the artist.
It is all in a matter of how the song is presented to you. I hate Rap, but I know a few rap songs that I like because they are not about sex or hoes or drugs, but about something funny. Like Chains-hang low.
I went on a road trip with some buddies years ago and the CD Play broke so I brought out my recorder which we used for one song. (keep in mind this was in 2000 before Mp3 players ruled the world.) I began playing them glorious epics of battle, love, and spirits of the land but mostly they were songs about things I saw on the side of the road. (Oh dead armadillo *tweet* you?re children will say where did daddy go? *tweet toot too-tweet* and then oh hey here?s another dead armadillo *ta-ta-tweet* you?re probably cousins! *toot*)Suiseiseki IRL said:
Sadly my colleagues didn?t truly comprehend the complexity of my improvised musical styling and took my $9 recorder and chucked it into a Louisiana swamp. Where I?m sure right now some alligator is serenading his true love with the beautiful sound of a 2nd hand recorder that is translucent pink.
there is bad music well opinionative anyway what I see as bad (rap country hip hop) others think as amazing so its all opinionative
I suppose the best way of showing how music can be good or bad is by providing two respective examples.
Firstly i regard Iron Maiden's Hallowed be thy Name as a good song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvPVEKWAY_0)
The intro is slow, brooding and reflectful, and clearly sets up the scene so the listener knows what the song is about. Then the music explodes in all full metal glory, notebly, it is played at a faced pace to reflect the frantic thought's of the prisoner about to be executed. The ryming pattern to the song lyrics, which are closely rhymed together, serve to speed up the pace of the song further and add to the "panicked" effect of the song. The instrumentals are also slightly repetitious, which fit around the close and regular rhyming pattern to the song and reflect the prisoners panicked thoughts.Bruce Dickinson's vocal style in this song further matches with what this song is all about. The ending lyrics are also interesting and engaging-
As the guards march me out to the courtyard,
Somebody cries from a cell "God be with you".
If there's a God then why has he let me go?
As I walk all my life drifts before me,
Though the end is near I'm not sorry.
Catch my soul, it's willing to fly away.
Mark my words believe my soul lives on.
Don't worry now that I have gone.
I've gone beyond to see the truth.
When you know that your time is close at hand.
Maybe then you'll begin to understand,
Life down here is just a strange illusion.
The final third of the song, mostly composed of instumentals, sounds brilliant, but perhaps it does go on longer than it should do, perhaps Smith, Harris and McBrian are having a bit too much fun on stage. None the less Bruce does conclude the song beautifully, the song itself exhibits Iron Maiden's sheer professionalism and talent as a band.
An example of a bad song would be "I Got a Feeling" by the Black Eyed Peas.
The intro is, while distinctive, does not signify anything. The instrumentals to the song as a whole are too repetitive and all they are doing is rehashing the same old tempo at different points throughout the song. There is simply not enough variety, they are using about three, perhaps four types of "sound" and sticking them, generally arbitrarily, throughout the song. The sounds they use are not the most interesting either. The lyrics are simply uninteresting, it is a song simply about going to the club and having a good time, as the singer repeatedly reminds you up to the point where you want to slap him. Nor are they inventive and they are about as original as an FPS set on D-DAY.
Now, for the record i'm not 13 years old and think that only metal music is good and everything else is rubbish. There are lots of rubbish metal band's out there after all, and i try to judge the music i hear as impartially as possible. A lot of the good stuff generally comes from prog-metal, but good stuff has always come from classical music, and i am quite fond of a few classic rock band's like Pink Floyd.
Firstly i regard Iron Maiden's Hallowed be thy Name as a good song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvPVEKWAY_0)
The intro is slow, brooding and reflectful, and clearly sets up the scene so the listener knows what the song is about. Then the music explodes in all full metal glory, notebly, it is played at a faced pace to reflect the frantic thought's of the prisoner about to be executed. The ryming pattern to the song lyrics, which are closely rhymed together, serve to speed up the pace of the song further and add to the "panicked" effect of the song. The instrumentals are also slightly repetitious, which fit around the close and regular rhyming pattern to the song and reflect the prisoners panicked thoughts.Bruce Dickinson's vocal style in this song further matches with what this song is all about. The ending lyrics are also interesting and engaging-
As the guards march me out to the courtyard,
Somebody cries from a cell "God be with you".
If there's a God then why has he let me go?
As I walk all my life drifts before me,
Though the end is near I'm not sorry.
Catch my soul, it's willing to fly away.
Mark my words believe my soul lives on.
Don't worry now that I have gone.
I've gone beyond to see the truth.
When you know that your time is close at hand.
Maybe then you'll begin to understand,
Life down here is just a strange illusion.
The final third of the song, mostly composed of instumentals, sounds brilliant, but perhaps it does go on longer than it should do, perhaps Smith, Harris and McBrian are having a bit too much fun on stage. None the less Bruce does conclude the song beautifully, the song itself exhibits Iron Maiden's sheer professionalism and talent as a band.
An example of a bad song would be "I Got a Feeling" by the Black Eyed Peas.
The intro is, while distinctive, does not signify anything. The instrumentals to the song as a whole are too repetitive and all they are doing is rehashing the same old tempo at different points throughout the song. There is simply not enough variety, they are using about three, perhaps four types of "sound" and sticking them, generally arbitrarily, throughout the song. The sounds they use are not the most interesting either. The lyrics are simply uninteresting, it is a song simply about going to the club and having a good time, as the singer repeatedly reminds you up to the point where you want to slap him. Nor are they inventive and they are about as original as an FPS set on D-DAY.
Now, for the record i'm not 13 years old and think that only metal music is good and everything else is rubbish. There are lots of rubbish metal band's out there after all, and i try to judge the music i hear as impartially as possible. A lot of the good stuff generally comes from prog-metal, but good stuff has always come from classical music, and i am quite fond of a few classic rock band's like Pink Floyd.