Is this fair? Are they allowed?

[Quiet Stranger]

Also how would I get into contact with them anyways? I'm sure someone would say google them

 

[dududf]

What they are doing is perfectly legal.

What they are doing is paying you the training wage, they are implying you are still in training and as such not working as well as a proper employee. McDonalds does it as well.

AS to the stealing of tips, not to sure.

Well what is there to train? (as I said) I know how to do things while I'm in the place (clean floors, wash dishes, change paper rolls, make boxes, cut the cheese (no fart joke intended) sometimes they even make me go buy something from a store (like meat for pizzas or super glue for a broken chair (those both happened)) plus all I have to do is look at a map, find the location of the street and then drive there, that simple, plus I'm a guy with short term memory loss (well not exactly but I don't have the best memory when it comes to streets, I'll remember the street names but not where they're located)

I'm not agreeing with it, I'm just pointing at the abuse in the system that you are being abused of.

An average person is up to speed in under 3 days at a place like pizza pizza, but employers can say that is not so and pay you less. I think there's a limit as to how long they can do it, and it's like 2-4 months. Not fun.

 

[WalkNasty]

if you are supposed to get tips then they dont have to pay you minimum wage (at least in america). kind of like a waiter, they get paid diddily but they get to keep the tips

Well usually when it comes to cash tips (which we get to keep) are crap, and they take 15% of our debit tips (which I personally think they take everything of the debit tip because I've never seen anything from any of my debit tips)

that 15% is probably a handling fee. it is bullshit, but im pretty sure it is legal. as for the cash tips, not much can be done about that.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

if you are supposed to get tips then they dont have to pay you minimum wage (at least in america). kind of like a waiter, they get paid diddily but they get to keep the tips

Well usually when it comes to cash tips (which we get to keep) are crap, and they take 15% of our debit tips (which I personally think they take everything of the debit tip because I've never seen anything from any of my debit tips)

that 15% is probably a handling fee. it is bullshit, but im pretty sure it is legal. as for the cash tips, not much can be done about that.

Yeah people have told me it's for taxes but I don't know, the customers (that I deliver to) are also charged for using the debit machines (about a dollar, which my dad tells me is more then what most people would charge you (which he says is just 50 cents)

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

yes report him..he's breaking the damn law contact your labor board and file a grievance.

 

[HellsingerAngel]

5151 Terminal Road, 7th Floor
PO Box 697
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3J 2T8
Phone: (902) 424-6730
Fax: (902) 424-1744

Minimum wage is $9.20 in Nova Scotia, last I checked. As far as I know, it is also illegal to not pay someone minimum wage. Any employee may not make less than $8.70 an horu in the case of deductions because of business costs (such as your employer charging you for the uniform they buy you) and inexperienced workers may be paid no less than the same amount while training. Because you do not sell products on route, but are simply delivering the product, you are not under a specialised group of workers that are exceptions to the minimum wage pay, and thus are being treated unfairly.

I would first suggest talking to your boss and ask him that you do not wish to involve the labour board with this dispute. Usually that'll straighten anyone out. BUT if it does come down to it, or you're unsure of your claim, call the labour board. They're a nice group of people and they will help you as this is serious business. Inform them of what's going on and they'll tell you if you should take further action. You CANNOT get fired because of any investigation done by the labour board and they will force your employer to reinstate your employment status if he does attempt to do so. You are in the right, here, as far as I can see, but please take the proper steps to ensure you don't make an ass of yourself.

Just as a small background peice, I live in New Brunswick and had a problem with a past employer myself. I'm well aware of labour laws around these parts and if the department over in N.S. is as good and friendly as the one here in Mocnton, you'll do just fine as long as you're polite and follow proper procedure. =D

 

[Infinatex]

Damn sucks to hear how that works over there. When I used to deliver pizzas for Dominos (in Australia) I was paid $12 per hour, $2-3 per delivery and I got to keep all tips. Sounds like you are getting screwed!

 

[Naheal]

Could you explain this one to me? What's leeway in tips mean? (you have to understand this is my first job where I get tips)

Don't quote me on this for Canadian law, but in the US, companies are permitted to pay you an amount less than minimum wage so long as you are receiving enough tips to make up the difference, which generally means that you have to report any and all tips you actually receive while on the job.

 

[Death on Trapezoids]

I would contact the board. I mean, even if he is within the law, do you really want to work somewhere where you can end up getting charged for your tip?

 

[Quiet Stranger]

5151 Terminal Road, 7th Floor
PO Box 697
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3J 2T8
Phone: (902) 424-6730
Fax: (902) 424-1744

Minimum wage is $9.20 in Nova Scotia, last I checked. As far as I know, it is also illegal to not pay someone minimum wage. Any employee may not make less than $8.70 an horu in the case of deductions because of business costs (such as your employer charging you for the uniform they buy you) and inexperienced workers may be paid no less than the same amount while training. Because you do not sell products on route, but are simply delivering the product, you are not under a specialised group of workers that are exceptions to the minimum wage pay, and thus are being treated unfairly.

I would first suggest talking to your boss and ask him that you do not wish to involve the labour board with this dispute. Usually that'll straighten anyone out. BUT if it does come down to it, or you're unsure of your claim, call the labour board. They're a nice group of people and they will help you as this is serious business. Inform them of what's going on and they'll tell you if you should take further action. You CANNOT get fired because of any investigation done by the labour board and they will force your employer to reinstate your employment status if he does attempt to do so. You are in the right, here, as far as I can see, but please take the proper steps to ensure you don't make an ass of yourself.

Just as a small background peice, I live in New Brunswick and had a problem with a past employer myself. I'm well aware of labour laws around these parts and if the department over in N.S. is as good and friendly as the one here in Mocnton, you'll do just fine as long as you're polite and follow proper procedure. =D

wELL THIS SOLVES EVERYTHING, THANK YOU SO MUCH, (caps lock sorry) I'm so glad a fellow Canadian came and helped me (the other people were helpful but not very)

 

[HellsingerAngel]

5151 Terminal Road, 7th Floor
PO Box 697
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3J 2T8
Phone: (902) 424-6730
Fax: (902) 424-1744

Minimum wage is $9.20 in Nova Scotia, last I checked. As far as I know, it is also illegal to not pay someone minimum wage. Any employee may not make less than $8.70 an horu in the case of deductions because of business costs (such as your employer charging you for the uniform they buy you) and inexperienced workers may be paid no less than the same amount while training. Because you do not sell products on route, but are simply delivering the product, you are not under a specialised group of workers that are exceptions to the minimum wage pay, and thus are being treated unfairly.

I would first suggest talking to your boss and ask him that you do not wish to involve the labour board with this dispute. Usually that'll straighten anyone out. BUT if it does come down to it, or you're unsure of your claim, call the labour board. They're a nice group of people and they will help you as this is serious business. Inform them of what's going on and they'll tell you if you should take further action. You CANNOT get fired because of any investigation done by the labour board and they will force your employer to reinstate your employment status if he does attempt to do so. You are in the right, here, as far as I can see, but please take the proper steps to ensure you don't make an ass of yourself.

Just as a small background peice, I live in New Brunswick and had a problem with a past employer myself. I'm well aware of labour laws around these parts and if the department over in N.S. is as good and friendly as the one here in Mocnton, you'll do just fine as long as you're polite and follow proper procedure. =D

wELL THIS SOLVES EVERYTHING, THANK YOU SO MUCH, (caps lock sorry) I'm so glad a fellow Canadian came and helped me (the other people were helpful but not very)

Hey, maritimers gotta stick together. Lord knows Ontario isn't looking out for us. Glad I could help, either way. Again, just make sure you're certain you've got a case before going all crazy on your boss.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Yes you should defiantly be going to the labour board. It's called "minimum wage" for a reason, as in it's the bare minimum an employer has to pay his employees regardless of the job. If you're getting paid less than that then it's a violation of labour laws and you should report it. You'll probably want to have a pay stub or two on hand as evidence.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

Yes you should defiantly be going to the labour board. It's called "minimum wage" for a reason, as in it's the bare minimum an employer has to pay his employees regardless of the job. If you're getting paid less than that then it's a violation of labour laws and you should report it. You'll probably want to have a pay stub or two on hand as evidence.

I don't get pay stubs, it's kind of under the table I guess you would say

 

[Quiet Stranger]

5151 Terminal Road, 7th Floor
PO Box 697
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3J 2T8
Phone: (902) 424-6730
Fax: (902) 424-1744

Minimum wage is $9.20 in Nova Scotia, last I checked. As far as I know, it is also illegal to not pay someone minimum wage. Any employee may not make less than $8.70 an horu in the case of deductions because of business costs (such as your employer charging you for the uniform they buy you) and inexperienced workers may be paid no less than the same amount while training. Because you do not sell products on route, but are simply delivering the product, you are not under a specialised group of workers that are exceptions to the minimum wage pay, and thus are being treated unfairly.

I would first suggest talking to your boss and ask him that you do not wish to involve the labour board with this dispute. Usually that'll straighten anyone out. BUT if it does come down to it, or you're unsure of your claim, call the labour board. They're a nice group of people and they will help you as this is serious business. Inform them of what's going on and they'll tell you if you should take further action. You CANNOT get fired because of any investigation done by the labour board and they will force your employer to reinstate your employment status if he does attempt to do so. You are in the right, here, as far as I can see, but please take the proper steps to ensure you don't make an ass of yourself.

Just as a small background peice, I live in New Brunswick and had a problem with a past employer myself. I'm well aware of labour laws around these parts and if the department over in N.S. is as good and friendly as the one here in Mocnton, you'll do just fine as long as you're polite and follow proper procedure. =D

wELL THIS SOLVES EVERYTHING, THANK YOU SO MUCH, (caps lock sorry) I'm so glad a fellow Canadian came and helped me (the other people were helpful but not very)

Hey, maritimers gotta stick together. Lord knows Ontario isn't looking out for us. Glad I could help, either way. Again, just make sure you're certain you've got a case before going all crazy on your boss.

So to find out if I have a case I just call the labor board and ask them?

 

[Quiet Stranger]

Could you explain this one to me? What's leeway in tips mean? (you have to understand this is my first job where I get tips)

Don't quote me on this for Canadian law, but in the US, companies are permitted to pay you an amount less than minimum wage so long as you are receiving enough tips to make up the difference, which generally means that you have to report any and all tips you actually receive while on the job.

I read about the difference but I don't know what the "difference" means, yeah i know, im stupid, also I never report tips I make, and also the tips I get are crap, the most tips i get (in cash) would be 5 dollars (like when I get a tip, I'm lucky if the customer gives me 5 dollars)

 

[Skywatcher]

Are you over 18? I know that in Ontario people under 18 are not entitled to full minimum wage and are usually paid about a dollar/hour less than those over 18. It's totally unfair and stupid (and needs to be changed!), but I'd look into whether Nova Scotia has a similar policy or not.

 

[bookboy]

Are you over 18? I know that in Ontario people under 18 are not entitled to full minimum wage and are usually paid about a dollar/hour less than those over 18. It's totally unfair and stupid (and needs to be changed!), but I'd look into whether Nova Scotia has a similar policy or not.

actually, according to this website: http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/info/minimumwage/

the general minimum wage in ontario is $10.25

the minimum wage for students under the age of 18 years working less than 28 hours per week (high school students with part-time jobs) is $9.60

and liquor servers: $8.90 per hour.

with special provisions for people working from home and hunting/fishing guides.

the student minimum wage is usuall equal or similar to the general minimum wage of the previous year.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Yes you should defiantly be going to the labour board. It's called "minimum wage" for a reason, as in it's the bare minimum an employer has to pay his employees regardless of the job. If you're getting paid less than that then it's a violation of labour laws and you should report it. You'll probably want to have a pay stub or two on hand as evidence.

I don't get pay stubs, it's kind of under the table I guess you would say

That could be a problem. On the other hand it's all the more reason to report this.