Is this legitimate reasoning?

[sgtjawa]

I was talking with a few friends yesterday, and the topic changed to music after a while, specifically Queen. One of my friends (An extremely conservative, vocal Republican and bible-thumping Christian- I have nothing against those groups, and he's still a pretty good guy despite how annoying he sometimes gets) said that he used to love Queen, until he discovered that the main singer was gay, and now he hates them. Being a kind and polite kind of guy, I kept myself from bringing the topic up the faults in his reasoning and changed the topic.

Is this an actual reason to hate something? To me, this is a horribly homophobic and bigoted, but I'd like to see some other people's opinions on this.

 

[Aunel]

Yes it's not very humane hating, but people hate all the time for good reasons, but most of the time for no reason at all.

Just like me, I seem to hate this bass

Spoiler

I just don't like it, for no reason at all.

 

[JupiterBase]

I would say no. You shouldnt judge someones work by what they do behind closed doors.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

No, no it is not. I doubt he hates them, he probably still listens to them. He just sounds like a close-minded person, who was told being a homosexual is wrong, and is incapable of forming his own opinions.

 

[Frank_Sinatra_]

It's not a good reason, but since when did you need those?
Hitler massacred the Jews, Gipsies, mentally challenged, etc. with no good reason... Sure he got cornered and then shot himself like a pussy, but that's not the point.

I for one would have punched the guy in the face for saying that. Just because someone is gay isn't a reason to hate them. Some of my friends are gay, and they're really nice people.
Sure it gets real awkward when they start hitting on you but you just gotta get past that.

Before your friend continues his stupid hate campaign perhaps you should remind him that being a hateful, homophobic bigot isn't the best way to "spread God's love."

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

Ditch that kid man. But seriously, it is illogical, as a hippy music teacher of mine once said "Its all about the music man!".

 

[Lyri]

No, no it is not. I doubt he hates them, he probably still listens to them. He just sounds like a close-minded person, who was told being a homosexual is wrong, and is incapable of forming his own opinions.

This represents my opinion on the matter.
The shocking revelation that Freddy Mercuary was gay just conflicts with his view points, rather than changing his thoughts about his religion which is probably the basis of his life he'll change his musical tastes instead.

 

[Jim From Accounting]

Yes it's not very humane hating, but people hate all the time for good reasons, but most of the time for no reason at all.

Just like me, I seem to hate this bass

Spoiler

I just don't like it, for no reason at all.

i know what you mean about the bass thing i wanted a thunderbird and i finally tried one and just when meh and ended up with a Specter REX4

 

[NeutralDrow]

I thought Freddie Mercury was bisexual. "Fat-Bottomed Girls" came from somewhere, after all.

But no, that's some of the worst reasoning I've ever heard.

 

[Erana]

I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter who the artist is as long as you can enjoy their art. I mean, people still like Caravaggio, and he was a murderer, ruffian, and supposedly used a drown prostitute as a model of the Virgin Mary.

 

[SuperWeeGee]

I don't think this is logical reasoning at all. You liked their music before, you should still like it no matter what. If you learn that the lead singer is gay, it doesn't make their music suddenly terrible.

 

[sgtjawa]

Just like me, I seem to hate this bass (snip)
I just don't like it, for no reason at all.

That IS a pretty infuriating bass.

No, no it is not. I doubt he hates them, he probably still listens to them. He just sounds like a close-minded person, who was told being a homosexual is wrong, and is incapable of forming his own opinions.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the case.

Ditch that kid man. But seriously, it is illogical, as a hippy music teacher of mine once said "Its all about the music man!".

Cool teacher! I can't just stop talking to him, though. He's a halfway decent friend despite all of the faults.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

To me, this is a horribly homophobic and bigoted, but I'd like to see some other people's opinions on this.

You've answered your own question. It is indeed horribly homophobic and bigoted. Why do you want opinions on this? If they give the opinion that it was justified, all that means is that they're just as bad as this guy.

Also, you should either find better friends or (ideally) stop being so polite. You are not being "kind" by just going along with it. You are implicitly telling him that this is a reasonable, acceptable way to think when it really shouldn't be.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

This reasoning makes precisely zero sense. Someone's sexual preference has no bearing on whether I enjoy the music they make.

 

[CuddlyCombine]

How does one legitimize a point of view? Are we not of the same culture that has completely changed everything our ancestors knew? And yet, you say, my rhyming throws you askew. Well, fear not, for tomorrow will start anew.

Anyway, his reasoning may be illogical, and it may seem homophobic, but I don't think that reasoning can be 'legitimate'. That would imply that there is a definitively wrong way of thinking, which, as we all know, is not the case.

 

[iLikeHippos]

I believe Christianity itself played a part in it. But I don't know his reasons behind the hate.

I myself love Queen, despite the gay fact.
And isn't he dead? Why care who he felt sexually attracted to in life?
He won't turn your children gay no more, hurr hurr, Christian superstition...

But yeah. R.I.P Freddy Mercury.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

Your friend is basically an idiot - it's one thing to disapprove of an individual on moral grounds, and quite another to decide everything they do is therefore worthless, especially as he enjoyed the music before learning that detail about the vocalist.

Christians are called to be in the world, but not of the world - to live their lives as an example of what it means to exist in a state of grace. Too many forget that said grace is entirely unearned and undeserved, adopting a holier than thou attitude towards the secular world and dismissing the good along with the bad merely because of the source, for fear that anything less than condemnation will be seen as implicit approval of every aspect of the source of a work of [art, music, what have you].

Which is frankly a stupid thing for someone who believes that God created the heavens and the earth to do, considering the ultimate source then for all that is beautiful and worthwhile in the world, no matter the hands of mortal agencies involved, is still going to be that same God.

You may want to remind your bible-thumping acquaintance of the phrase "Hate the sin, love the sinner".

 

[Squilookle]

My advice is to tell him Ronald Reagan was left handed and watch his head explode.